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[–] Trash_Panda ago  (edited ago)

Papal supremacy led to Vatican II. that's what I am saying. When you open the door to making concessions you've already been subsumed by modernism because then it changes a little bit more, a little bit more, a little bit more. That's why irreligion is doomed 1000% of the time. Anything you might consider objective is ultimately just another opinion. All of this is also why most Protestants are "Christian Zionists".

The purpose of Novus Ordo is to become as Protestant as possible without actually being Protestant, there were even 6 Protestants who helped create the Novus Ordo mass. Try to conceptualize how insane this is from a traditionalist perspective.

From a traditionalist perspective, there are really only two religions. Accepting consultation from other 'denominations' would be like consulting Muslims or Jews when formulating your Christian mass/liturgy.

Where does Vatican II even mention female participation?

It doesn't. But go through YouTube and you'll find endless videos of women participating in mass, even dancing around the altar (which isn't acceptable regardless of gender). This is just the Protestant mindset coming to fruition. Are these churches condemned? No. Are they still in communion with Rome? Yes. What else do you need to know?

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[–] Waiyu_Dudat 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

You get it. You fucking get it dude. I wish I could give you more than one upvote. Orthodox Christianity seems to be the only true anti-jew there is. Catholicism leads to atheism and Protestantism didn't fix the problem. I went to a protestant bible college and now I'm relearning Christianity through an Orthodox lens (after studying European paganism), gotta say, Orthodox is strong.

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[–] Trash_Panda ago 

It really is like a different religion isn't it? All of my conceptions about Christianity were flipped on their head the more I got into Orthodoxy and then it just made perfect sense. I really think it could make a lot of headway in the US if more people understood what it actually is.

Of course we all have our different talents and interests but if you happen to be a fan of philosophy you should check out Jay Dyer. Another great speaker is hank hanegraaff. Found them both recently-ish.