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[–] Trash_Panda 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
If you want to know watch the first 6 minutes of this
Note the women participating in mass and dancing around having a great time.
Now compare that with this
Or this
If anybody in the Orthodox church were to even suggest anything like Vatican II or anything that deviates from the original tradition in any way they'd immediately be in schism and ostracized. Which is exactly what they did with the Roman Catholic Church, which actually used to be of the same church as Orthodoxy. The "pope" used to just be another Patriarch (ree muh patriarchy) until Rome started claiming that all other patriarchs and churches are to answer to the church of Rome, which resulted in the great schism. The Orthodox church is decentralized and always has been, which prevents and fights corruption because any corrupt members of the body are simply cut out and tossed away. Many people have tried to derail and corrupt Orthodoxy and have been swiftly deposed and balance restored. This doesn't happen in Rome and we see the consequences clear as day today.
It's all about tradition and once you give way to that, once you start making concessions, once you give yourself the right to start modifying and changing holy traditions, you've already pronounced your death because you've already given modernism the means to infultrate and consume.
Orthodoxy is the only true anti-Jew for this exact reason, because traditionalism is a dogma of Orthodoxy and therefore impenetrable, and all of the church traditions run contrary to the methods the Jews use to infultrate and destroy civilizations (gender equality, moral degredation, irreligion, drug use, promiscuity, destruction of the family unit, etc)
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[–] Trash_Panda ago (edited ago)
Papal supremacy led to Vatican II. that's what I am saying. When you open the door to making concessions you've already been subsumed by modernism because then it changes a little bit more, a little bit more, a little bit more. That's why irreligion is doomed 1000% of the time. Anything you might consider objective is ultimately just another opinion. All of this is also why most Protestants are "Christian Zionists".
The purpose of Novus Ordo is to become as Protestant as possible without actually being Protestant, there were even 6 Protestants who helped create the Novus Ordo mass. Try to conceptualize how insane this is from a traditionalist perspective.
From a traditionalist perspective, there are really only two religions. Accepting consultation from other 'denominations' would be like consulting Muslims or Jews when formulating your Christian mass/liturgy.
It doesn't. But go through YouTube and you'll find endless videos of women participating in mass, even dancing around the altar (which isn't acceptable regardless of gender). This is just the Protestant mindset coming to fruition. Are these churches condemned? No. Are they still in communion with Rome? Yes. What else do you need to know?