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[–] veteran88 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

It is good to support honest police. Anyone who follows a gun grab order is no longer a cop and becomes an enemy combatant. The ones who would follow that order are all cowards and they will kill you rather than take a chance with their own lives.

None of us want war, but if they start one we better fight back. It is prudent to think about what you would do if attacked. And when you win where to counterattack. Command and control and media were the target priorities in Iraq. Surrendering isn't an option because they will just throw you in jail and kill you later. War is war is war, old rules are irrelevant if the enemy starts a war. It's just you your weapon and your honor.... And your fireteam if you've had the good sense to form one with old trusted friends.