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[–] Rawrination 1 points 42 points (+43|-1) ago 

There is NO other reason to use voting machines than election fraud. If street shitters in India can do paper elections with over a billion people there is no excuse for developed countries.

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[–] ReginaldPluntfarb 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Just wait until they start pushing for a biometric online voting app. Security provided by Crowdstrike.

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[–] selpai 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

What's wrong with voting by block-chain?

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[–] speedisavirus 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago  (edited ago)

There are lots of other reasons. Like faster counts and easier comparison against actual registered voters.

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[–] GrandNagus 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

I'm sorry is waiting 4 hours for a district to be counted too much, was it ruining your normal TV schedule with sportsball and reality TV?

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[–] 13312772? 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

None of these systems allow comparison with actual voters wherever there are no voter ID laws.

Also when they tried to confirm voter rolls after the election, they found so much tampering with seals etc. In Wisconsin and Chicago that they could not do recounts.

What you say is correct, electronic voting systems can provide that service, if the procedures developed by corrupt and dishonest politicians weren't intentionally flawed to prohibit verification.

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[–] bosunmoon 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

They sure as hell know when you don't pay your taxes. Why is tallying a vote so hard.

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[–] Blackjack147 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

There is about two and a half months between a Presidential election and an inauguration. About a month or so until delegates vote. Seems like enough time to count paper ballots. The votes don't need to be counted in full that very day, but the count should be public, or even livestreamed.

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[–] newoldwave 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

They'll find ways to rig the election no matter what method is used. With paper ballots, they "stuffed the ballot box".

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[–] thisistotallynotme 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I upvoated your absolutism, but you're wrong:
1) it would be naive to trust street-shitter elections to be unrigged.
2) There are already secure distributed blockchain-backed voting dapps running on ethereum. Making a secure untamperable system to run a voting client isn't exactly rocket surgery.

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[–] CrustyBeaver52 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

Hillary couldn't even fill a high school cafeteria during the election. Most of her votes were fraudulent. The biggest election fraud in history.

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[–] 13312783? 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Seriously the high school gyms that weren't even 1/4 full?

Who fell for that shit?

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[–] uvulectomy 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

"Who fell for that shit?"

The people who hate Trump because CNN told them to.

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[–] Fagtardicus 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

the illegals voting in shithole cities

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[–] Imightnotbetrolling 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Most obvious fraud ever.

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[–] RoBatten 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

And that's saying a lot . . .

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[–] RugerLCP_2 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Boston Tea Party the voting machines

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[–] cthulian_axioms 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

YES

HIJACK THE DELIVERY TRUCK AND DUMP THEM IN THE FUCKING HARBOR

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[–] watts2db 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

plus dress up as antifa and BLM when doing it

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[–] dd-schiznit 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That wouldn't be believable. They NEED those machines.

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[–] 13312754? 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I didn't need to open the article to know it was ES&S -

Controlling interest of ES&S is a George Soros holding. The same George Soros who is now indicted and convicted in numerous countries for election fraud.

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[–] fl3x 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Came here to avoid reading the article and have someone "TL;DR: Soros." it for me.

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[–] riposte 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Which countries? All google gives me are snopes and nytimes... the ministry of truth.

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[–] 13315196? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Off the top of my head, the Philippines actually placed a bounty on him. Google fu is weak at the moment but he also will have an entire in-house memory holing team.

Here is what people accused him off in the US in 2015 regarding our elections:

https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2015/6/5/revealed-convicted-felon-george-soros-bankrolling-attacks-on-election-integrity/

And here in 2016 something about his ownership in ES&S:

http://www.businessinsider.com/george-soros-connection-to-voting-machines-2016-10

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[–] RoBatten 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

What possible reason could they need remote access for? Those machines should not ever be connected to the internet. Is this how they moved decimal points? (1 vote to 0.1) . . .

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[–] Mr_Quagmire [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

What possible legitimate reason? Because we know the real reason they need remote access.

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[–] StanTheTRex 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

My guess is customers that didn't want to pay the company to have a technician fly out for an issue. I'm not excusing it at all, these guys need to be run out of business, but say a large county pressuring you to install it while heavily insinuating that the cost of having to fly in support would really limit their future purchases. After you do the bad thing once it gets easier to do it again and again.

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[–] RoBatten 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That could be.

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[–] dooob 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

For "updates", of course.

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[–] derram 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

https://archive.fo/8MZqL :

Top Voting Machine Vendor Admits It Installed Remote-Access Software on Systems Sold to States - Motherboard

'"None of the employees, … including long-tenured employees, has any knowledge that our voting systems have ever been sold with remote-access software," the spokesperson said. '

'At that time, a spokesperson said ES&S had never installed pcAnywhere on any election system it sold. '

'ES&S would only say that it had confirmed with customers who had the software installed that they "no longer have this application installed."', "Although Wyden's office asked ES&S to identify which of its customers were sold systems with pcAnywhere installed, the company did not respond."

'Motherboard asked a Michigan spokesman if any officials in his state ever installed the pcAnywhere software that ES&S recommended they install, but got no response. '


This has been an automated message.

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[–] cthulian_axioms 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

pcAnywhere

That's a name I haven't heard in a long time.

Many moons ago I used to be a computer technician. The firm I worked for tried out several of the different remote-login techniques. There was LogMeIn (which I think is now owned by Cisco?), GoToMyPC, pcAnywhere, and a few others. We stopped using pcAnywhere because it was buggy and slow as fuck.

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[–] sir_andy_of_bad 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Cisco owns webex.

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[–] JeffreyMcMillinface 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

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[–] Optional-Reading 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

retarded faggots on reddit saying the rigging helped DJT.

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[–] Mr_Quagmire [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Of course. That's what they're being told. Or at least that's what's being insinuated.

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