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[–] bisteot ago 

Anyone that thinks that society can exists with individualism is a moron.

Yes, the individual needs and is part of a society, there is no question on that, and should aim to be productive.

But saying "when we decided that individuals were actually important and should be respected and should have certain rights" is an stupid and dangerous idea. That is tyranny. Individuals are actually important and should be free to pursue their objectives without anyone else imposing their point of views.

Your idea is ignorant because it treats collectivism as a smart entity, without considering that there is always running the show and that make the individual to comply to those desires actually limits development.

It doesn't even define who or why should someone be on charge of leading society if the individual in the end doesn't matter.

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[–] 12558426? ago 

It isn't clear to me what you are objecting to. You say

But saying "when we decided that individuals were actually important and should be respected and should have certain rights" is an stupid and dangerous idea. That is tyranny.

Are you saying that I said that discovery was dangerous? I didn't. Individuals are important and I applauded our ancestors for recognizing that. But our ancestors were part of a collective, a community, a culture that was capable of recognizing that. Values and morality are not private things, they are public, and if the community, the public that recognizes individuals, recognizes liberty is destroyed, then liberty will no longer be respected in such a society.

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[–] bisteot 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

You know what, I totally misinterpreted what you were saying then, and if that is the case I apologize.

I sincerely understood that you were implying that individual rights were not important.