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[–] MinorLeakage 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
I mean, technically everyone from India to Sweden to Libya is the same "race". They aren't Mongoloids, they aren't Negroids, they aren't Pacific Islanders or Amerindians, so what do you think they are?
However, they certainly aren't "white". I agree completely with you on that. "White" is a bit of an odd "race", since it's not determined 100% by your genetic history, but rather by your skin color. The old "any known blood" axiom as well.
I always try to ask where people stop being white. Are Greeks white, but Turks are not? Northern Italians are white, but what about those hairy little olive-skinned Southern Italians? I just generally draw the line at Italians. If Italians are white, then I don't want to be. I'd rather something a little more exclusive. Maybe we can just go back to saying Aryan?
[–] 12416951? 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
I always find it interesting that the supposed lovers of diversity and anti-racists on the left would subscribe to the extremely racist "one drop" theory when deciding who is black.
[–] MinorLeakage 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
The single best way to prove this? Remind people that while Obama was America's first BLACK President, if he had been elected President of Kenya instead, he would have been their first WHITE President. Then watch as their face gets all screwed up as they try to explain that, no, Obama is actually just BLACK. Then you say, "oh right, any known blood and all that, right?"
There is nothing less linear than a liberal's logic. (That was some sweet alliteration!)
[–] SHIVASHIVASHIVA 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago
It’s all orchestrated by the cia, to create their self-defeating ‘fake democracy’.
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[–] MinorLeakage 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago (edited ago)
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I just find the topic interesting. I don't think any two people define being "white" the exact same way. I think "Aryan" is the term that actually means something, and is probably what most people mean when they say "white". Although "Aryan" would include the entire upper caste in India as well...
I remember reading about some Mongolian guy who was a "white supremacist" recently. If you look at genetics and skin color, it's pretty hard to argue with the guy. He's as white as an Irishman (though the Irish weren't considered "white" not that long ago).
This old German map is pretty decent at illustrating what I'm talking about. You'll notice that all of the Middle East and North Africa are in fact "Caucasians". They just aren't "white". https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Meyers_b11_s0476a.jpg
There really only are 3 Major "Races", and 1 or 2 Minor. Being Caucasian, Mongoloid and Negroid. Then Pacific Islanders and Amerindians, who are really just a branch of Mongoloid. Mongoloid and Caucasian are highly related, while Negroid has been completely separated for some ~40-50K years.
Along the same lines, I always enjoy pointing out to people that Palestinians, Jordanians, etc, are all Semitic people. So how can they be anti-semites?
[–] ch3f4554551n 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Southern Italians, Turks, and Greeks are Mediterranean peoples. They aren't Europeans.
[–] BlackGrapeDrank ago
but weren't ancient Greeks white? then n. African shit made them browner...
[–] 12419007? ago
Those distinctions are based on facial morphology, are they not? Mongoloid, Caucasian, etc. Indians count as Caucasian, but they are certainly not white in general (apart from a few light skinned upper caste ones and hybrids left over from European colonization).