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[–] 12094974? 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

This. UBI has to replace all direct payouts and minimum wage has to be dropped completely. Anything else is just political bullshit to buy votes. I would not support a UBI int he US without a Constitutional Amendment outlawing all other forms of welfare as well as any "refundable" tax credits currently used to increase welfare payments on the sly.

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[–] CrustyBeaver52 ago 

You do need to maintain some benefits which technically can be called "welfare" but which actually should not be categorized in that area - stuff like extra money for the severely disabled. Some people require constant care, etc.

However - basic income can and should replace all of the other basic payment systems - everything from welfare through social security. It just becomes income - same as wages. No need to overhaul all kinds of stuff - give it equally to everybody and all it does is to create a floor in the labor market - while that floor already somewhat exists through the welfare type systems now.

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[–] 12096325? 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Problem with maintaining those benefits is that they become an easy way to keep regular welfare too. Look at how many are on "disability" now just because everything else ran out and it was easy to get.