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[–] tendiesonfloor 5 points 33 points (+38|-5) ago 

Nobody is buying the story about the shooter. He was dead in the room well before the first round was fired into the crowd. This false flag was set in motion long before Trump was elected. The end-goal being the abolition of the 2nd amendment under Hillary.

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[–] ZX4jBXu 5 points 22 points (+27|-5) ago  (edited ago)

You are 100% correct.

Not the same man. NSFL.

Wrinkly old man neck on one man, combined with one pic of a man with attached earlobes and the headshot man with what appears to be detached earlobes.

Edit: What a bunch of niggers hiding in the shadows, downvoating and running. If you got an opinion, let's fuckin' hear it.

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[–] Durm 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah this got down-voated about the same time I got some weird down-voats. I went to look at all the new posts and saw this one was negative fairly quickly also. Mine were about more innocuous things. I can see this one maybe because its arguably controversial, but that was still a lot of down-voats in at fairly atypical pace. See https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/2167867 where I made a post.

Looking at the video it does look like flashes so on a quality of post type issue this was a good post, even if the flashes are fake or turn out to be something else.

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[–] Sueshia101 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Where did your photo come from? I've not seen this kind of proof b4

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[–] 10682650 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I believe all of this, but that doesn't justify the categorization of the light in this gif as "muzzle flashes".

What do we know about the windows? What of neighbors reporting gun shots?

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[–] GoatEmperorTrump 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Why would I believe anything anyone tells me about this?

I don't believe the MSM bs narrative, the multi shooter narrative, really much of anything. The only thing I have seen at all that I believe was the video of a dude drinking beer giving the finger.

Shouldn't the MSM have to prove through evidence of pics and vids and testimony that this actually happened?

Why isn't the whole country more skeptical at this point?

Believe nothing the media tells you, as it is mostly lies with only a sprinkle of the truth.

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[–] child_abuse 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Why would he shoot himself in the face?

When you hear the police busting in, why did he not jump out of the window shooting still.... i don't see this as an act of passion.. it seems way to weird.

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[–] 10683520 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They used explosives to storm the room and they also have ordinary flashbangs and some still-classified tools they can use to incapacitate anyone in the room briefly before they enter it.

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[–] Marou 2 points 28 points (+30|-2) ago  (edited ago)

This video from a Taxi driver right underneath the hotel. Gunfire is clearly coming from multiple locations, one far away and one right above him.

https://www.facebook.com/ether8r/videos/vb.515017258/10155941592402259/?type=2&theater

/edit: Youtube mirror courtesy of TruthSeaker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-v1qPJm2us

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[–] kammmmak 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

And they are sometimes shooting at the same time. People we have more than one shooter.

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[–] altident 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

How have I not seen this yet? Sometimes the "echo" fire happens before the nearby fire. Very clearly more than one shooter

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[–] daphaze 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

this is pretty much all the proof you need to know there are two shooters. not an echo.

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[–] Pawn 4 points 24 points (+28|-4) ago 

reflection or strobe light inside. Glass unbroken.

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[–] 10682405 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

The reflection theory is solid until you realize you can't see any other reflections from all the many millions of lights of Vegas.... Because the glass was designed not to reflect easily.

And there is another angle of yet another room from a taxi driver.

And even taking into account concrete impacts and supersonic breakouts, there are clearly multiple machine guns being used simultaneously. Look into a military concept called 'talking guns'.

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[–] ThinkCali 2 points 8 points (+10|-2) ago 

Reflections from inside the room. I'm not 100% sure, but do people go to vegas to party? Does that look like a party? No no no, the only explanation is another shooter capable of supersonic breakouts because of talking guns.

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[–] Yuke 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

A simple way to confirm or deny would be to check for a broken window on that side. That would have had to have happened as soon as possible though, for obvious reasons.

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[–] damnittohell 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This sounds like the explanation I came in here to see. There are always so many conspiracy theories, I can hardly ever figure them out.

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[–] tippyc 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

is there a picture of the unbroken glass after the attack?

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[–] jonnythaiwongy9 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Yea I'm thinking deranged 'freedom fighter' martyring himself to save us from nazis. As for IC, he had a lot of weapons. does anyone remember the Labour MP in Britain, the 40 year old woman, pro-immigration that was shot on the street by a mentally ill nazi supporter? I think what they do is keep a list of these people who could be used as useful idiots, befriend them, and encourage them, provide them weapons, while pretending to be high ranking Nazi's or communists or whatever. That way CIA or MI6 won't likely be caught and they can direct some derangedd citizen to do their bidding. I'd imagine 9/11 went the same way, they allowed it to happen, maybe had a high up Saudi on the pay-roll who ordered his followers to do it, with the followers unaware they were being enabled by a US faction.

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[–] survey_girl 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

much like Timothy McVeigh too. He was former army, and it is thought that that is how they recruited him. They need someone that is unstable to begin with and then they feed their mental illness and get them to act in a way that will help push a certain narrative (McVeigh was to make white 2nd amendment supporters, militias, and those that don't completely trust the government look bad) There are some good videos on youtube about McVeigh.

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[–] 10683049 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I haven't seen any fleshed out theories about the CIA faking anything. What we believe - if you would allow me to speak for the Voat hivemind for a moment - is that there were multiple shooters in a coordinated attack - that attack was probably planned by some Antifa-Affiliated extremist group - and that several of the shooters escaped and they won't tell us.

It is the same old story in San Bernardino. The husband and wife died but reams of evidence pointed to there being a larger conspiracy but nobody else apprehended.

This goes back to Sandy Hook where multiple credible accounts describe multiple gunmen, military boots, a gunfight running into the forest..

The Government doesn't want to admit that its "War On Terror" - just like the "War On Drugs" - is actually increasing terror not preventing it.

Omar Mateen? It keeps going. We've caught them in dozens of easily provable lies, and thousands of more difficult lies. Only a fool would believe anything the US Government or the Mainstream Media told them at this point in history. A fool.

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[–] altident 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

There are voaters who think no shooting happened at all, that the gunshots were just played over loudspeakers at the concert, and "crisis actors" pretended to get hit or witness people getting hit.

I had a pretty lengthy argument with @JoeMontana about it yesterday. Never mind that there's now a video from a taxi driver outside of the event that clearly depicts the sounds of at least two different shooters. Did they just place loudspeakers all over the city and play different clips of gunfire, Joe?

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[–] ADaniels 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

have you ever heard of cia-mind control? or just plain black-mail?

this guy owns 2 planes and can afford to gamble 10k plus a day multiple times over the past decade , why would he end his life this way?

To me, it would seem this gives conservatives the perfect boogeyman to kick off this civil war, which is EXACTLY why the intelligence agencies should be supspected

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[–] ScannerDarkly 3 points 13 points (+16|-3) ago 

The full video of the man giving the finger to the shooter proves it's a strobe. The flashing doesn't stop, it's at a steady rate, it does not even remotely match the gunfire sound. This is distraction.

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[–] EdLophead 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Strobe light. You can see it in earlier video from before shooting. https://www.instagram.com/p/BZwofXcgzh9/

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[–] prairie 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

More facts are good. This avoids wasting any more time on the light, and should also cause some re-examination of clinging to theories.

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[–] ADaniels 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

good call, definitely a strobe light.

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[–] tippyc 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thats the best proof either way the i've seen yet.

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[–] shill343 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

If you watch the video the flashing continues after the shooting ceases. That position would have also been harder to shoot from to the crowd because of the bullet drop. It is not a muzzle flash.

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[–] Just_Some_Dude [S] 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

There's also police radio chatter talking about shots coming from the lower third of the building.

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[–] shill343 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

A lot of the stuff on police chatter was not accurate. At one point they said a girl in an Air force uniform was hiding behind a CVS with a weapon that wasn't accurate. Not saying it is impossible but there was a lot of confusion. I was listening to the police scanner all night.

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[–] altident 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Likely because one of them saw the same strobe light that we're all seeing

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[–] ardvarcus 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

You can't shoot through window glass without breaking it.

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[–] 10683854 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

You might be able to if you cut a small hole out, moved the glass elsewhere while you were shooting, put it back in place when you were done, and sealed the hole. It probably wouldn't look perfect, but as long as it didn't gather immediate suspicion, your follow-up team could fix it up after the area quieted down a little.

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