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[–] NotHereForPizza 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Make no mistake: there are certainly individuals among MRA guys that aren't there with an open mind, a flexible opinion and some surely aren't' there just to persuade people. I know it goes without saying, but like any large group, there are some bad apples.

However, there are some elements of the movement that are rather self-defeating. I'm not saying we shouldn't support them. Hell, I'm a man as well, and I certainly understand and see all of the different viewpoints these guys have. I've been there. I've given quite a lot of attention to the subject. But, there's certain people saying certain things that aren't all that helpful.

Now isn't a good time for me to really get into this, but it's extremely important to take things they say with a grain of salt and to look in to things they speak about on your own.

These groups are often infiltrated and broken up by ideologues and provocateurs. Just simply approach these areas with an open mind and open ears. Just remember not to assume things you're told are correct.

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[–] NotHereForPizza ago 

I'm saying be cautious of people who don't actually have your best interest in mind.

We're making a pretty big leap here, but most of these movements have psyop elements. No fap mgtow the red pill (subreddit) all come to mind.

Don't get me wrong, it's difficult to swallow at first. Hopefully by this point, however, you're more than capable of choking down those big pills.

Don't misunderstand, some elements are extremely worth while - especially legal aspects of the movements. But, you're much better off coming to these realizations on your own.