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[–] AnthraxAlex 20 points 66 points (+86|-20) ago 

Looks like this thread got shariahblued.

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[–] bm2112 12 points 51 points (+63|-12) ago 

No kidding. Some serious vote manipulation going on in this thread.

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[–] notyouraveragellama 9 points 45 points (+54|-9) ago 

I've never personally experienced it until this thread. I made what I thought was a pretty good comment and it was getting a decent but normal amount of upvoats. But now it's been buried by a pile of downvoats that just doesn't fit with what I know the normal voat hivemind to be. I didn't agree with the hivemind 100% but my arguments were pretty sound and reasonable, so the downvoats don't make any sense. Definitely some botting and/or brigading going on here.

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[–] guinness2 [S] 14 points 32 points (+46|-14) ago 

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[–] derram 1 points 46 points (+47|-1) ago 

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[–] revofire 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

She is so bae I tell you.

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[–] tanukihat 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

@derram is your Vivian James collection located online anywhere?

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[–] CowboyXero 0 points 38 points (+38|-0) ago 

The only questions I have asked and have never once had answered are the following:

  1. How will taxing me further stop the climate from changing?

  2. What guarantee do I have that the climate will never change?

  3. Exactly what dollar amount stops this?

That's all. Maybe I'll get lucky this time.

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[–] guinness2 [S] 2 points 16 points (+18|-2) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] Master_Foo 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

I don't really go too far down the climate change rabbit hole, but at the same time, I don't put it outside the realm of possibility. I'm more concerned with immediate effects of pollution, like smog and the acidification of water sources. If we stop these short term problems, the long term problems won't ever be an issue.

As for your questions. I think they are valid. The only problem with them is, just because a question is so complex it doesn't have a reliable answer, doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.

That's kind of like asking Captain Cook, before nutritionists were a thing, "How much vitamin C do I need in my diet to prevent scurvy?" Captain Cook couldn't answer that. All he could say was "Hey, eating sour crout prevents scurvy."

So, I guess applying that logic to climate change, I'd probably say "Preventing pollution will reduce smog and probably man-made climate change in the long term. But, fuck if I know how much that will cost in taxes."

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[–] CowboyXero 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I don't really go too far down the climate change rabbit hole, but at the same time, I don't put it outside the realm of possibility. I'm more concerned with immediate effects of pollution, like smog and the acidification of water sources. If we stop these short term problems, the long term problems won't ever be an issue.>

Okay, see here, I can get with that mentality. Here's the thing. I'm completely in favor of newer tech and feul sources that might help us out without decimating what we have because, hey, we have to have clean water and air or we're really fucked and we have to have food, in that, we need places to grow the goddamn food so yeah, totally with you on that one.

As for your questions. I think they are valid. The only problem with them is, just because a question is so complex it doesn't have a reliable answer, doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.>

The questions really aren't that complex. I'm also not saying that the problems with pollution don't exist. All I'm saying is, look, I'm working and I'm making ends meet where I can but the idea of taking even MORE of my money based on many of the problems that were once associated with heavy industry (Not much of a problem here in the states these days since manufacturing is pretty much gone) doesn't make any goddamn sense and there aren't any demonstrable benefits to it. Instead, why not encourage innovation among all of us. I mean we still have people fucking about in their garages with all kinds of available tech. I know a 10-year-old who put heads together with his own dad to make an autonomous lawn mower. To me, taxing out the ass for something like this is an insult to my intelligence because it says, "Heh, look, you just can't be trusted to take care of this yourself. You're not smart enough." Meanwhile the people telling me that use more energy in their fucking pool houses in a week than I will in three months while giving me the excuse that they "give enough to charity to offset that." Again, doesn't make one iota of fucking sense, especially when you know how charities actually work (Spoiler Alert, people, only five cents of every dollar you give goes toward the research to defeat the problem.)

I'll skip to the end of your post which I upvoated here. It would be far less taxing (no pun intended) for a movement to take place from the garages and tinker stations everywhere. Allow me to illustrate just one example:

Topher White Saves The Amazon With Used Cellphones

Seriously, have a look right here at his presentation. We need more of this, not more billionaires grabbing more cash from us.

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

If you send me a cashiers' check for $2,374.13 each month, I will guarantee that the climate will stop changing. Would that be good enough for you? I must warn you, though, if you stop paying, I'll restart the global warming machine.

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[–] prairie 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

How will taxing me further stop the climate from changing?

It encourages you to roll over and die, filthy human!

What guarantee do I have that the climate will never change?

The state can do anything!

Exactly what dollar amount stops this?

Depends; how much do you have?

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[–] AnonDan 3 points 34 points (+37|-3) ago 

O HI Shareblue. You cunts don't take a break do you?

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[–] Rummel 9 points 33 points (+42|-9) ago 

wew lad, Shareblue damage control does not rest on a Sunday.

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[–] JohnJones 13 points 31 points (+44|-13) ago  (edited ago)

The climate changes. FACT. Where I live it changes 4 times a yaer. From 800-1200 Greenland and north east Canada was settled by Vikings, it was a tempered climate. Now its a artic climate where it doesnt get above 68° F http://www.greenland.com/en/about-greenland/nature-climate/the-weather-in-greenland/mean-temperatures/

I love how all these global warming shills refuse to acknowledge the pollution caused by airplanes, every day they fly over my area they create artificial clouds that block out the sun. Lets talk about Climate engineering, known as geoengineering, Stratospheric Aerosol Injection, Solar Radiation Management, and of course its most commonly used term (and unscientific term) Chem-Trails.

8 upvoats, 9 downvoats and not 1 reply. Thats odd.

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[–] brandon816 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The votes aren't odd. ShareBlue has hit this thread.

I'll upvote yours to help correct, please return the favor. Downvote any comments here by Fantasia29 and Brains7, and upvote anyone else's that looks like they got brigaded.

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[–] Master_Foo 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

This is how you deal with chemtrails.

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[–] AmaleksHairyAss 8 points -2 points (+6|-8) ago 

People are creating global warming. The fact that I haven't spent the VERY long time studying the issue needed to address these specific components (I bet you haven't either) doesn't disprove that.

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[–] JohnJones 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

global warming means man made climate change. The debate is over using oil based enegry to move our vehicles and carbon based fuel for our steam powered energy, which releases alot of Co2 into the atmosphere is causing the earth to heat up.

This is a non-issue. The earth naturally fluctuates between warmer and cooler climates. Currently we're in a cooler climate. The debate should be over if we can swap to natural energy because it causes less pollution. Each house can have solar powered roofs, and wind powered turbines easily. We have plenty of rivers to place hydro power on, we dont even use most hydro power plants here in the USA, the Army uses them to control flooding!

And lets talk about airplanes. Every single day I see them flying over and polluting the sky, creating artificial clouds that block out the sun. Why is this being done, why is it being ignored, and the kicker, its being DENIED.

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[–] MrAmerica 2 points 21 points (+23|-2) ago 

Hmmm, a day old account getting a suspicious number of upvoats? I wonder how that happened... I love how the people who claim I know nothing about climate change science are the same people who never looked at the raw data. Fuck off with your climate cult, Fantasia29

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[–] guinness2 [S] 2 points 18 points (+20|-2) ago 

PSA: If you see anyone posting content from shareblue.com then report those globalist Jew cock-sucking terrorists at /v/ReportShareblue.

We've already caught quite a few enemies of Western civilization!

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