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[–] goatsandbros [S] 10 points -5 points (+5|-10) ago 

fascism doesn't just mean "bad."

That's arguable, I'll admit, but it's hardly ever been attached to anything good. Also, what gives anyone the right to rule, non-voluntarily, over another person?

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[–] obvious-throwaway- 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

it's hardly ever been attached to anything good.

There was that time Hitler was almost successful, but you're right, him losing the war was a bad thing and tainted the word.

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[–] mamwad 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Hitler was an abhorrent censor. It shows that your support for "free speech" is really just a politically motivated move to protect the alt right from censorship. If fascists gain power, they censor. Your ideals are not freedom. You just prefer a different flavor of totalitarianism.

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[–] kraftykat 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

But Hitler was not fascist, was he?

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[–] fr33europe 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Amen brother

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[–] anglosaxon 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The right to rule is usually taken, not given.

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[–] LazarusLong 4 points 3 points (+7|-4) ago 

Yeah, fascism is in theory and practice pretty unequivocally awful.

However, it a very specific form of "bad."

All fascism is bad, but not all bad things are fascist.

And I'd say nothing gives anyone that right, morally speaking.

I'm advocating for honest, accurate speech and avoiding hysterical sensationalism, not fascism itself.

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[–] Fambida 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

You know, the word has been abused so much at this point that it's mostly lost the original meaning and now it really does just mean "I don't like this"

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[–] 9048120? 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

"That's arguable, I'll admit, but it's hardly ever been attached to anything good. Also, what gives anyone the right to rule, non-voluntarily, over another person?"

1) History is always redacted by the victors, was pinochet a fascist ? Some would say yes ? Was his regime bad ? Definitely if you happened to be leftarded, but in the end, he saved his country, if hitler succeeded he would be regarded as a hero, because in the end, everything is excusable when seen from the standpoint of the result

2) What gives anyone the right to rule, non-voluntarily, over another person? The result, I guess.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet#Accusations_of_Fascism

Although he was authoritarian and ruled dictatorially, Pinochet's support of neoliberal economic policies and his unwillingness to support national businesses distinguished him from classical fascists.[93]