[–] rmats 1 points 64 points (+65|-1) ago 

he said Western policies towards African countries were wrongly based on an assumption that black people were as clever as their white counterparts when "testing" suggested the contrary.

Nice scare quotes around "testing", I'm sure they've got some evidence for calling that testing into question besides not liking the results, and they'll present that later in the article, right? Spoiler alert: They do not.

The newly formed Equality and Human Rights Commission, successor to the Commission for Racial Equality, said it was studying Dr Watson's remarks "in full".

Apparently the right to say what you think or research what you want is not a human right. But I'm sure these social science majors one step away from working as baristas at the commission will be equal to the task of fairly analyzing work done by an actual scientist.

Keith Vaz, the Labour chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee, said: "It is sad to see a scientist of such achievement making such baseless, unscientific and extremely offensive comments. I am sure the scientific community will roundly reject what appear to be Dr Watson's personal prejudices.

What "appears to be"? Well, shit, if it APPEARS to be personal prejudices, let's just stop right there, things that appear to be wrong are definitely wrong. But honestly, his credibility was shot when he included "extremely offensive" as a problem. Being offensive is never a reason to ignore science, either it's good science or it's not, and frankly the chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee, complete with his complete lack of schooling in any hard sciences, is not equipped to say whether it's scientific or not.

But hey, in case you might think Keith Vaz isn't a piece of shit, I did find this beauty while checking whether he had a degree in a field that would matter when judging the work of a real scientist: "In March 1989, Vaz, a Catholic, led a march of several thousand Muslims in Leicester calling for Salman Rushdie's book The Satanic Verses to be banned, describing the march as "one of the great days in the history of Islam and Great Britain.""

In 1997, he told a British newspaper that a woman should have the right to abort her unborn child if tests could determine it would be homosexual.

So just to be clear, the left has a problem with women having the right to choose if they don't like the reason for the choice? Glad that's morally consistent. I am sure we will soon see asterisks being painted on to all future "I support a woman's right to choose" signs at the next NOW rally.

He has claimed that beauty could be genetically manufactured, saying: "People say it would be terrible if we made all girls pretty. I think it would great."

Yeah, what a fucking dystopia we'd live in if people selected for traits like beauty oh wait that's how sexual attraction and evolution has worked since forever.

Steven Rose, a professor of biological sciences at the Open University and a founder member of the Society for Social Responsibility in Science

So founder of what might as well be called "The SJW Principles > Evidence Foundation", I'm sure he has a reasoned, evidence-based take on this, go on...

said: "This is Watson at his most scandalous. He has said similar things about women before but I have never heard him get into this racist terrain. If he knew the literature in the subject he would know he was out of his depth scientifically, quite apart from socially and politically."

Right, and if true, I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact as evidenced by this very article that even if you were instrumental in the greatest scientific discovery of our generation, if you say that races which clearly have different physical characteristics might also have any mental variation, your career will be pretty much wrecked, you'll be fired from wherever you work, and people will sue you. If I were some random nobody, I'd definitely voluntarily stick my head into that chipper-shredder of career-ending wrongthink. Basically, cite exactly why your data is right and his data is wrong and why evolution suddenly decided to stop affecting the brain once humans evolved or you're wasting everybody's time.

Anti-racism campaigners called for Dr Watson's remarks to be looked at in the context of racial hatred laws. A spokesman for the 1990 Trust, a black human rights group, said: "It is astonishing that a man of such distinction should make comments that seem to perpetuate racism in this way. It amounts to fuelling bigotry and we would like it to be looked at for grounds of legal complaint."

If scientific freedom and freedom of speech are the enemy, and you're actually in a position of such power politically to put those beliefs into action, congratulations, you are no longer an oppressed minority, you are in fact the oppressors. So can we stop giving you special treatment now?

[–] Swallow_That 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Excellent take down. You put more work into your reply than Vaz did in reading Watson's research. Kudos.

[–] ShineShooter 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The effort to refute a lie is an order of magnitude more than to create it.

[–] senpaithatignoresyou 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

What happens when a non politically correct country like china and russia verify his research? What happens when corporations discover this to be true?

ODIN sells all the stuff needed to open up your own bio lab for under a thousand dollars. The era of the hobbyist bio technician has arrived. The truth will come out whether we like it or not.

[–] hypercat 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Corporations already know. Look at adds catering to white people and black people.

[–] MedicalMountainGoat 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I always find it hilarious that when you bring up different dog breeds and compare the intelligence levels everyone is totally on board with it and has some input regarding which breeds are smarter, more trainable, etc. They are also perfectly fine with carrying that example on to other species and have no moral qualms about it. Furthermore, the majority also tend to agree that humans of different races tend to have different physical characteristics and capabilities: NBA and football players being predominantly black for example. However, as soon as you mention that perhaps humans, also being animals, may have similar variances in intellect between races everyone loses their shit. For some reason human brains are so special and not subject to natural selection and genetics like every other existing creature.

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[–] GoatyMcGoatface 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

She said she is for the right to choose. I told her that in the past she has said "If the baby is going to be retarded abortion shouldn't be an option becuase thats cruel"


[–] Scablifter 1 points 20 points (+21|-1) ago 

An inconvenient truth. The Asian races are the smartest of all, the Caucasians are in the middle with the Negroid race at the bottom. Its racist of a Japanese/Chinese/Vietnamese to say everyone else is stupid then....

[–] bikergang_accountant 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Here's why we can't quite know. It is the culture in Asia to train for IQ tests. We can't get an apples to apples comparison unless we took a sample of Caucasians that also trained (and trained as hard as an Asian that knew it was relevent to his advancement in society).

But in either case Asians are pretty smart and really accel at math when they have access to the right education (not china).

African's are a full standard deviations below us. Asians and whites are within each other's standard deviation to the point that knowing if they are a smart member of their society or a slow member of their society is a better way to rank two people among us than only knowing the race. A smart white can be multitudes smarter than a dumb Asian and a smart Asian can be multitudes smarter than a dumb white.

[–] littul_kitton 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

African's are a full standard deviations below us.

African-Americans are a standard deviation below.

Sub-Saharan Africans are two standard deviations below, explaining the violence that makes Chicago look like a little slice of heaven.

Some sub-Saharans, such as the residents of Burkina Faso, are nearly an astonishing three standard deviations below Caucasians. The average person there would be considered unable to care for themselves in America and probably end up in a group home for the intellectually disabled. The well-below-average there would be institutionalized in America.

[–] greyhunter4 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I don't know why that's inconvenient, other than you get idiots saying, "that's racist!"

Yeah, it is racist. It's also true.

[–] TheDude2 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Interesting point. You can say a "racist" comment that is factually correct. If you try to explain that to a normal person they hear the word "racist" and think it's negative. Sometimes it's just the truth.

[–] Pawn 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

not true at all. Case in point Philippines. Case in point Chinese still behave like animals who eat anything that walks.

[–] MedicalMountainGoat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

While that is true, they are also capable of reaching significant levels of intellect and attaining a breadth of knowledge. Many are highly capable in STEM fields, particularly math. The same cannot be said, in general, for subsaharans and other similar races.

[–] littul_kitton 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The Ashkenazi Jews are at the top. Those Nobel prizes in physics aren't going to win themselves, you know.

[–] DonSombra 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

Europeans needed intelligence to survive their environment before the rise of civilization. Africans needed to be extremely athletic. There's not too much to explain here. If you watch sports: who usually owns/coaches the teams and who is usually in the spotlight?

[–] firex726 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Yep... Ancient Europeans had ro plan ahead for thr winter months and ration their food while thise in africa did not have as harsh a time.

Look at the traditonal foods in europe, they may not look good but they can be made in large quantities and will store for months.

While in africa you have berries, mashed nuts, ans leaves. Not the sort of stuff that will last beyond a week.

[–] DonSombra 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Don't forget the fauna. Some central Africans had to learn to literally chase animals to death (due to overheating and exhaustion) to get their meat, due to the lack of "sneaky" tactics available on the plains. This had to be done in extreme heat, across great distances, and for many hours which explains why Nigerians tend to whip European's asses at marathons!

[–] hypercat 5 points 0 points (+5|-5) ago 

Are you drunk or ESL?

And there are many sustainable foods in Africa that can last a winter, South Africa gets below freezing in the winter. Plus big scary animals that eat you in the night and deserts.

The lack of big cities (aside from a few cultures like the Egyptians) is because a nomadic culture was more sustainable than a fixed society. So there was very little time for arts, language, etc. A society only progresses when they have found out ways to save time and not work all day. Nomads are basically herding cows and sheep all day.

[–] WanderingMitten 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Ya and yea it sucks, it's just a shitty hand dealt to Africans because technology is capable of making athletic feats worthless with technology HOWEVER if someday say all technology were to just go up in flames and be non-existent, it would be the Africans in control potentially since they would have their strength to back up their control whereas most of society would be pudding from the reliance on technology.

[–] DonSombra 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

To be honest, I believe we need to face the truth of the situation: we all need to be content with what we're capable of, and not try to force inorganic chemistry between people. Europeans still have a reserved, quiet, and slightly abrasive nature that causes judgement and bias. We all know the faults of many African Americans. Most of them, however, tend to mature greatly when not subjected to the media's powerful influence over the black youth. You don't see the black kid who played Yu-Gi-Oh! all of high school on the news for drugs, kill 5 people, rob a guy, or even get in a fight (unless prodded enough). The culture is the issue, not the people. Regardless, as humans, we are all brothers and sisters. Our only true enemies are those who wish to force us to do their bidding without question or comment. We must break EVERYONE that's part of this system free from their control.

[–] Itsdone63 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Athleticism. Whites are stronger than blacks. How often do you see an ethnic at worlds strongest man?

[–] ShineShooter 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Stabs you with freshly sharpened stick

[–] Samchay6 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

The 79-year-old geneticist reopened the explosive debate about race and science in a newspaper interview in which he said Western policies towards African countries were wrongly based on an assumption that black people were as clever as their white counterparts when "testing" suggested the contrary. He claimed genes responsible for creating differences in human intelligence could be found within a decade.

Facts are racist. That doesn't mean that they are not facts...

[–] the_magic_man 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Facts need to be proven

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[–] Baconmon 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Huge red pill: Nature is "racist".. I'm not joking.. Dr. Watson is merely a MESSANGER relaying the results he finds in nature, and his results happen to show that different races have different IQs.. Humans didn't decide to make some races smarter or stupider..

What disgusts me is that this man is being roasted for being an unbiased scientist.. The fucking PC ideaology has infected science, and now you can't even do REAL science if you start studying races or genders or IQs..

These fucking PC wackjobs want to believe that the dumbest fucking nigger in the depths of the african jungle is just as intelligent as the smartest japanese rocket scientist.. And if you disagree then OMG you must be a racist scientist!.. Why the hell would Dr. Watson whom is a renowned scientist suddenly be like "HAHAHA I think I will suddenly start being RACIST in my results, just because I HATE black people, even though they are actually all created equally! HAHAHA I am so evil!!!!"..

[–] behindthetoilet 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Everyone knows this. Those niggers think they're invisible if they're naked.

[–] Thegreatestname 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Corroborated by SAT scores and college admission requirements.

[–] Whitemail 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

No matter how much real world evidence there is that niggers are DAF, we have to pretend they're just like us.

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