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[–] SeemsReasonable 2 points 18 points (+20|-2) ago 

This place went from majority pro Trump to majority anti Trump overnight. On the flip of a dime. And some of this anti Trump rhetoric is from new users or users who weren't very active until now. Seems suspicious to me. You don't have to pick a side one way or the other yet. Nor does what happened mean Trump is suddenly the anti Christ... Jesus people it's hard to take half of you seriously. I can see my self in the future laughing at all of you who were quick to jump ship.


[–] CrudOMatic 1 point 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

They also post between the hours of 8am and 5pm PST...


[–] Diomedes1001 1 point 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

This needs to be pinned at the top of most of these threads, something ain't right here.


[–] Knucklessg1 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They've been targeting voat pretty hard as well as all the chans. They've stepped up their game. Its awful.


[–] Martel-Sobieski 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago  (edited ago)

It's a shareblue tactic. Also Richard spencer has shills of his own that were figured and that faggot is the definition of controlled opposition.

The shills are attempting to divide us by portraying trump as a neo con and blah blah blah

The man knows what he's doing

You faggots call yourselves nationalists but turn coat as soon as your leader tries a geopolitical strong arm tactic that is in the best interest of the American people since the perceived strength of our leader affects every negotiation with foreign nations in every aspect.

You pretend like all is lost during the opening salvos of legislative talks and deals with a man that is known as a master negotiator.

I honestly think some of y'all wish he actually were a putin puppet.

You're being manipulated by a mass shilling campaign. Are you people really fickle enough to turn so quickly after two years and all This hard work, do you all of a sudden believe media narratives.


[–] Forgetmenot 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I was always on the "America first ship" I have not wavered from putting our country first at all. I don't change my ideals because of a poll or a false flag. I can say that Trump is the one who seems to have jumped the "America first ship". There never was a "trump ship" none of the tshirts or red baseball caps carried the name trump. It said MAGA or proud deplorable. Most people voted for trump because of his agenda and they remain remain loyal to the values and ideals That won trump the election. He has surrounded himself with never trumpers. That is his choice we can blame priebus or McMaster or kushner. Trump chooses to surround himself with these people. He is in charge. I myself have remained steadfast and loyal to The "America first" values that he ran on. It is why I voted for him. Now Is trump the one who seems to be making an about face to his values and his long standing public opinions? Did he jump the America first ship? Please don't label me a shill, or a ship jumper or reacting at the first sign of adversity. In reality, It is trump who seems to be changing his values and jumping off the America first ship. I hope I am proven wrong, but I also Cant just give him the benefit of the doubt after his support of Paul Ryan and Ryan care, or how he threatened the freedom caucas, or how he fired Flynn, and now how he has publicly distanced himself from bannon? 4d chess or at these his true colors? I myself won't laugh at anyone if I am right, it's actually tragic.


[–] SeemsReasonable ago 

Don't worry I don't think you're a shill, I know there are genuine people who have their own opinions of events just as I do. I just see things differently for the time being. I'll probably be one of the people who waits until it's too late if it turns out trump betrayed everyone (I really don't think he is or will). I considered not adding in my last line because it's generalizing too much and I won't really be laughing but figured people would read it and associate it with the shills not anyone else who has a genuine negative view of trump or his actions whether it be for good or bad reasons. It can be really hard to determine who is and is not a shill (way harder than a lot make it out to be most of the time) so mostly I give people the benefit of the doubt. There are def shills and concern trolls here though, but in how large of numbers I do not know. I think sanegoats incessant spamming of calling everyone shills has helped to water down the term to being near meaningless a lot of the time.

The people Trump has surrounded himself with does seem slightly worrying to me but all in all I'm not too worried, we'll just have to wait for time to tell how things will turn out. It might sound like I'm talking about everyone who is not a trump supporter but honestly I don't intent it that way. It just seemed suspicious to me how quickly people changed their stance based on limited info especially considering how much support Trump has had on here for a long time now but really emotional reactions are just a part of being human so I don't blame people who may have reacted too soon and I sometimes do it too. Maybe I'm the one who is wrong and in the end, I will accept and admit that and be disappointed.