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[–] oddjob 6 points 75 points (+81|-6) ago 

Goddamn, I am sick of us getting involved in fucking wars in the middle east. We've been in a perpetual war over there ever since 9-11. Maybe this is just a one-time missile strike, but that is rarely ever true. I thought Obama was supposed to get us out of wars and that didn't happen. Then I thought Trump would get us out of wars and that's not looking promising right now.

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[–] lettersofmarque 1 points 23 points (+24|-1) ago 

We've been involved in mid-east hostilities since 1784 when Moroccan pirates seized the US brigantine Betsey. First Barbary War, 1801-1805. It's been off and on ever since.

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[–] oddjob 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

Oh yea, we've always been quick to go to war historically. I don't think there's been more than 20 consecutive years without the US getting involved in another conflict. But we haven't even had 1 day that is conflict-free since 9-11. I just want us to stop fighting for a least a few years.

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[–] Banned4Truth 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Then there's absolutely nothing to worry about. The Jews and the Muzzies will fight it out. Islam won't dominate the world because the Jews have been scheming behind the scenes to make it look like a Muzzie invasion. The politicians haven't been putting Islam on a pedestal, it just appears that way because the Jews are behind it all. They just want us to think Islam is usurping the west slowly one Allahu Snackbar at a time but have no fear. The Jews would never let Islam get too strong of a grip, it's all for show because their contingency plan is to ...damn, that's where it kinda falls apart.

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[–] mamwad 4 points 4 points (+8|-4) ago 

Just ignore the fact that American energy companies want to build a pipeline through Syria so they can sell natural gas to Europe. Nope, definitely the Jews. By all means it has nothing to do with maintaining control over the energy market.

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[–] SyriansAreTerrorists 3 points 1 points (+4|-3) ago 

If USA gets to kill some muslims, i guess it's not all bad

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

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[–] Empress 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

@Alduin left Voat 4 months ago. This is a bought and paid for account.

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[–] CervicalStrike 2 points 24 points (+26|-2) ago 

Nah I can see why Trump may have made the decision to bomb that airfield from the optics of the situation, but if he goes full war for the ZOG and continues against Assad and/or Russia then yeah he is fully compromised.

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[–] heroinwinsagain 11 points -1 points (+10|-11) ago 

After you bomb another country, I dont think its up to you to decide war, its already decided. One way or another we have declared war. Whether we like it or not.

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[–] Shekelstein6M 4 points 33 points (+37|-4) ago 

Hey, dumbass, the US has been bombing Syria for years.

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[–] bahhumbugger 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Obama declared war on Yemen?

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[–] guinness2 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Is that what your Shareblue manager to you?

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[–] basedputin 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You know things are fucked up when Hillary Clinton, Marco Rubio, Lindsey Graham, John Mccain, and all the neocons support the bombing of Syria. Yes, I'm totally a 'shill' for not supporting yet another pointless war in the middle east. But hey, anything for GREATER ISRAEL TM right?

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[–] ShowMeThePunny 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I liken it to the we're like a groom that just came home to find our newlywed wife (Trump) sucking a jew cock. On the alter she said "I do" to "America first", but now she's on her knees for Isreal.

If you're OK with your wife doing this, you're a fucking cuck.

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[–] Nayra 2 points 13 points (+15|-2) ago 

I'm undecided on where I stand with Trump on two issues right now. The first is the issue of internet privacy - although the fact that every Democrat voted against it makes me think it was a good thing. The second is Syria. Right now, I think it was a shitty call. That could change, depending. Some people have tried to put good reason to why Trump made the call that he did. To me it seems like over-rationalizing. I guess time will tell. But you're absolutely right. Every one of us needs to be more than willing to think for ourselves and to call Trump out when he does something we disagree with.

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[–] resplit 9 points 9 points (+18|-9) ago 

the fact that every Democrat voted against it makes me think it was a good thing

This is how your brain works? You think there's some rationale for it that you don't get? No, there isn't. Your privacy was sold, plain and simple, by corrupt assholes. If you weren't blinded by partisanship, you'd think, hey, maybe I agree with the democrats on this issue. Not "the democrats voted against it, therefore I have to be for it but I just don't know why yet."

Use your fucking head

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[–] Nayra 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

Is that how my brain works? Yes. If every retard starts voting for something, I get suspicious. Note: Keyword "suspicious". I don't change my mind just because retards are onboard with something, but yes, I get suspicious. This is the exact reason I started backing Trump, doubting Climate Change and all sorts of other shit. When George Soros and Barrack Obama are shilling for Hillary Clinton and calling Trump the devil, I get pretty suspicious.

I mean...re-read my comment. It's about staying objective. Getting so stupidly emotional over one line in a post about being willing to doubt Trump just tells me you don't have sound reasoning. I don't fucking trust Democrats. Why should I? So far they've been wrong about almost everything. I have statistical, logical reasons for being suspicious of what they vote for. When they all lobby behind something, I'll make sure I understand it for myself, because, STATISTICALLY, ODDS ARE (not a guarantee, but I would bet on the fact that--) they're wrong. I haven't actually bothered to read or understand the bill that was repealed because I don't have the energy, and I don't trust any journalist from New York Times OR Breitbart to tell me what it means, so I'm going off guesswork, and right now, all the retards are up in arms over it, so I'm guessing it's a good thing that Republicans did what they did. As I said in my post, TIME WILL TELL.

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[–] Crensch 4 points -2 points (+2|-4) ago 

Is that how your brain works? NO, you weren't sold out, bullshit regulations/red tape were removed so companies didn't have to jump through maybe one more hoop to get the same information you're whining about here. Congratulations, you're a moron.

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[–] RunRabbitRun 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

  • although the fact that every Democrat voted against it makes me think it was a good thing

If that's how you decide whether something is good or not you are a fucking retard and are just as bad as any leftist. How tiny is your brain that you have to define complex issues by party lines? This is like the opposite of being objective. You're not taking the time to look at an issue based on what it is, you're just making a gut reaction based on how your favorite team responded to it. Fucking a

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[–] Nayra 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Holy shit read my comment. It's about being objective. I already replied to someone else on this point. My comment is about being objective. That said, YES, I am SUSPICIOUS of democrats. I'm suspicious of Republicans, too. I'm MORE suspicious of Democrats, and I have more historical reason to be, so when a bunch of retards agree on something, I get SUSPICIOUS--that doesn't mean I make my mind up based on what retards think, but it definitely makes me question more.

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[–] 8702878 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

Supposedly, the "Net Neutrality" bill wasn't actually about the concept of "Net Neutrality" (like the "Patriot Act" attacked real patriots, the "Affordable Care Act" was anything but affordable, the "Safe Schools Act" resulted in more school shootings, and the "Consumer Financial Protection Bureau" has been operating with zero Congressional oversight while it kills banks by burying them under mountains of regulations), but was the first step for government control of the web. The bill deserved to die in committee the first time around, but because it was controlled by Obama's Democrats back then, it got pushed through and given a positive PR spin in the title.

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[–] ExLibris 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The key word to your explanation is 'Supposedly". If you actually research what net neutrality was about you'd see it was more about preventing huge companies from taking over the internet and using that control to drastically limit what you can access on it, (Or force you to pay more to access what you want.)

Without it we'll find that your ISP will let you have free access to anything owned by their parent corporation, but anything else will either be delivered painfully slowly, or come with an extra surcharge.

Now the new plan is to remove the law but ask companies to voluntarily give their competitors equal speed to their own internet holdings, and not to abuse the lack of legal regulations to fleece the customer. Does anyone out there know a major corporation that can be trusted to do that voluntarily? I sure as hell don't.

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[–] Grifter42 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Yeah, this has anti-Trump propaganda written all over it.

This is just ShareBlue making another push. I'll give them this: Atleast they're not as transparent this time.

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[–] Filthy_Khajiit 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

oh fuck off with your "this is just a dirty shill" rhetoric, its natural for people to have different views and to be skeptical you fucking retard, crying 'SHILL SHILL BAN IT" when encountering something you disagree with is just acting like a child

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[–] WakeyWake 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

I am a Trump supporter, that being said:

I believe the chemical attack was a false flag. It was either not done at all (a staged attack w fake victims but still staged by our allies) or it was not staged (had victims), but still done but by Turkey or one of our other allies that wanted Trump to support the toppling of Assad. But I'm willing to say that I do not have the info in front of me that Trump does, it's possible I could be wrong.

I believe we should not have sent missiles or acted at all whether this gas attack was real or not.

I do not support his decision to bomb the airport field, but I will not abandon him over this decision, even tho I do not support it.

The decision did destroy the narrative that Trump was Putin's puppet. If Trump did this just so the left's narrative was destroyed, well...the 5D chess master has been playing 20D chess all along.

But I am not blindly supporting him, but I am not going to abandon him bc of this. He was given a mess in the Middle East, this display of power is what we wish Barry would've shown. But overall, we need out of the middle east.

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[–] Jixijenga 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

He was given a mess in the Middle East, this display of power is what we wish Barry would've shown.

A lot of what Trump got elected on could be summed up with this single sentence alone. Funny thing about political outsiders, they tend to draw people from all over and I think a lot of people heard what they wanted to hear with Trump.

Personally I do support the decision to bomb the shit out of Syria, if somebody, anybody is using chemical weapons we have a duty to stomp on their fucking throats until they piss themselves. These tinpot dictator states are always in the market to be courted by the wrong people, and more often than not they're a thorn in our side.

It serves American interests to make sure chemical and biological weapons are unacceptable on any battlefield. We have nukes, we don't need their awesome power diluted by uppity little shitheads trying to make genocide a legitimate weapon.

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[–] Chiefpacman 5 points 5 points (+10|-5) ago  (edited ago)

Agreed.

What I'm not agreeing with, is all the "told you so" going around.

He's faltered, he hasn't lost it all. many have been waiting to pounce on something like this.

There is no national interest being threatened in Syria, what he did by bombing them was unconstitutional without a congressional approval.

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[–] heroinwinsagain 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Presidents of corporations serve the investors not people buying their shit.

Presidents dont serve citizens. Citizens dont elect the president.

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[–] Chiefpacman 5 points 1 points (+6|-5) ago 

Yes, waiting to pounce- my 4 day old friend.

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[–] bcyost89 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

unfortunately I don't think those are mutually exclusive in this case.

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[–] Martel-Sobieski 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

what he did by bombing them was unconstitutional without a congressional approval

Not even close to true

He could've sent every soldier we had into Syria if he wanted to without asking congress

Congress simply has to decide to keep funding it after 3 months. We haven't been at war with congressional approval since WWII

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[–] Chiefpacman 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

[The Congress shall have Power...] To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

Funny... I don't see where it says

"except you can do whatever you want for three months"

Please point it out to me.

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[–] TherealScrable 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I'm an outsider, so I am just observing and am still supportive of Trump. But the recent actions did make me skeptical of him.

What you are talking about is fanaticism. It's always bad and you act like a whiny liberal if you are doing that.

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