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[–] Arrvee 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The actual science debate:

we are experiencing a greenhouse effect due to CO2 + here are some climate models

vs

those models have proven to be unreliable over time, we need better ones + have you considered variable solar input?

The science debate in the media and on the internet:

say the words "climate change" SAY IT or else I will fucking destroy you + give me all of your money + allow Africa, China, and India to produce as much CO2 as they want + outlaw cars, even the electric ones

vs.

shut up idiot