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[–] intrepiddemise 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
Libertarianism is about personal liberty; it doesn't try to restrict much except for government. The kind of society you're intent upon making will have extremely high barriers to entry. Libertarianism isn't about regulations and barriers; it's about freedom. Freedom of choice, freedom of movement, etc. As long as you're not harming anyone else, you're to be left alone.
And if you think that whites are somehow immune from socialist tendencies, and that the Rapture you're going to build will therefore be free of it, think again. The Soviet Union was white (unless you don't count slavs as "white") and Communist for 75 years. Even the aryans of Sweden were socialists throughout the 1970s. Most European countries today have mixed economies that are highly focused upon social welfare. The communitarian/collectivist impulse is a human impulse. You're not going to get rid of it by walling out those you see as unfit. Once that becomes the norm, no-one, even those within your own ideal community, will be immune. This is how tribalistic infighting begins, and that kind of thing ruins even the most homogeneous of societies.
Even if I agreed with your white nationalist philosophy (I don't), I wouldn't support it because it wouldn't work on practical grounds, and for the same reason that you're arguing against a libertarian society: get a large enough group, and the chaos of human nature enters the picture and ruins all of your well-laid plans. The only thing we can do as citizens is to argue for our beliefs and attempt to gain some control over the levers of power so that we can see legislation that we favor implemented or so we can see rules and structures with which we disagree dismantled.
And if you're thinking of an armed white nationalist revolution, the same thing would happen to it that would happen to any armed anarchist or libertarian revolution: it would be crushed. Both of these philosophies are considered extremist philosophies by most of the American public. You white nationalists need to realize that and come to terms with it, as most libertarians have.
[–] A_Fringe_Element ago
I'm aware - I personally think it's a shallow ideology that stands for little at the end of the day but "muh freedoms". We've consistently seen that a society where anything goes and "don't judge" is the motto will destroy itself. Economic pitfalls can be corrected social pitfalls are rarely as easy.
"Muh freedoms" and "muh constitution" are not going to save you from a 51% majority. The mythical immigrant looking for a better life is coming here because of our GDP and lack of wars/diseases. He brought his ideas with him when he crossed an imaginary line and was given a magical piece of paper by a government bureaucrat.
Actually it worked quite well for generations. Until very recently in history allowing millions of Africans and Arabs into your country wasn't even imaginable. To this day there's many countries with almost completely homogeneous populations. Most people are fickle - most of the people alive today status signalling for gay rights were making jokes about faggots ten to fifteen-years-ago. That pendulum can swing the other direction as well. Groups like BLM and Muslims do more for white nationalism than anyone else because at its core white nationalism is merely a survival strategy.
In the US that's unnecessary - this country has the sociological version of AIDS and will go the way of the USSR. We'll see what emerges from those ashes but there's enough land to divide. It's Europe that needs ethnic cleansing and that's much more likely to happen.
PS - my "ideology" is no more radical than Zionism.
[–] intrepiddemise ago
Let's see...libertarianism's principles do not amount to "anything goes" or "don't judge", "muh constitution" doesn't save me from a 51% majority, I agree; its perceived legitimacy does. Also, Zionism is a radical ideology, and history has shown that groups that assimilate into the dominant culture of a country can be just as successful (if not more so, look at Korean Americans, for example) as the native population.
If you want a less radical platform, one that may actually be listened to by the average person, then it is not freedom you should be fighting against, but domination (especially by certain groups, if that's your thing). It shouldn't be constitutional principles that you fight against, but the perversion of those principles for ends with which you do not agree. It shouldn't be immigration that you're fighting against, but the failure of immigrants to assimilate into American culture (or, worse yet, subversion of that culture into some form of socialism). You can wait around for the "AIDS" to destroy the U.S., or you can actually do something toward making positive change. It's up to you.