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[–] Rosenkavalier [S] ago
There are scales of society and I think that is a large determining factor as to at what scale and what amount diversity is compatible with "success." Your point about Sharia and the Frankfurt school is an interesting one. Between those two it seems like comparing two massive piles of shit, so I would have to defer on passing judgement. I'd rather pass on both.
[–] mentallydeficient 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
I suppose you're right that it is a false dichotomy in theory and other forms of social organization could exist but within the context of Europe at the present moment that's how the ideological battle lines seem to be drawn. Let this be a lesson that even Europeans can descend into collective shitnoggery left to their own devices.
[–] Rosenkavalier [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
It absolutely is a false dichotomy. I think both the Frankfurt school and sharia have popular following, but the Frankfurt school by definition started as a top-down elite ideology. It is still pushed, but some people do subscribe to it. People also subscribe to sharia but it has less of an elite push in my perception.
Culture is so individualized that any attempt at a fixed ideology is bound to break down or cause break-down socially. I think there are plenty of Europeans who are somewhere not at sharia or Frankfurt school, but do not exist as a bloc and therefore have no cultural "push" (which is probably ingrained in that type of culture, contrasted from sharia/Frankfurt). I agree with your point that any society can descend into madness; no man is infallible and culture is truly a soft and slippery way that people express themselves.