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[–] apparatchik1488 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I don't know man. Large HD's were pretty expensive 7 or 8 years ago. We don't know what the descriptions of the items said. I don't have enough info to say anything is suspicious with that TBH. The problem is most of the items are no longer visible, we don't know what was going on.

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[–] Snotface 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Could possibly contact one of the buyers who left shady feedback and enquire about the "quality of goods". Throw "cheese" in a few times and see what response you get??

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[–] apparatchik1488 [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Well, since reddit has been gay I've been here more, but I'm always around.

I don't have anything damning or documented to drop and if i did it wouldn't be on this account. But I'll answer whatever. I could speculate for 10k words with local legends. But they're largely local legends or just the anecdotes that only a local would know.

You guys are sprawling and it's great, but then there's just more and more that i could tangentially connect.

From what i said last time, Sen Inouye might be a decent shot in the dark connection. He was immensely powerful for decades. If this pizzagate shit was happening he's a likely connection. And the dncleaks are already sniffing at his door. His last scandal was trying to get the local bank he founded to be first in line for TARP while he was the most senior Dem. It was Central Pacific Bank. It's in the leaks but no worse than any of the bigger banks.

Now the story of why there are local banks here instead of BofA and Citi, that's one I'd like to know myself. Something real fucking shady has to happen to keep those big banks out.

And if you're a birther, i guess check out the Abercrombies and their history with Obama. I got nothing there, i just know Obama was running in a crowd of older stoner hippies and Neil Abercrombie was one of them. He ended up being the really socialist Governor who fucked up a lot of stuff.

The kaiser stuff is meaningless to me. The school is a shit public school. The healthcare group is what it is. They're huge public institutions removed from any shadiness as far as i know. But the DC links are rather interesting. If KF is some old school CF, so be it.

The big money criminals are absolutely Bishop Estate and Office of Hawaiian Affairs. That's just how it is. And if one of those groups found a kidfucking and trafficking operation that they weren't running themselves, they'd probably murder everyone involved and never mention it again.

Hawaii is Chicago level corrupt.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1466849/7119839

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[–] Poncho567 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

My theory about David Flint Stone/Flintstone being David S. Chang can't be correct because someone found there is a company Mr. Stones Inc that David Flintstone owned starting in 1993 and David S. Chang was only 13 years old at that time. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1464513 But there is still a connection between David Flintstone and David S. Chang since their names are both connected with The Stone Factory LLC... some kind of business connection? On MyLife website it says David Flintstone/Flint Stone is 55 years old, DOB 2/19/1965 and has a sister named Maileann Stone. I did find a FaceBook page for Maileann Stone but not much other information. So maybe David Flint Stone is his real name?

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[–] apparatchik1488 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think we need to get a lexisnexis account or something similar to continue down that path, and also for future use. Free sites are not reliable enough. Thoughts?

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[–] Poncho567 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yes, that would be helpful to have access to more legal documents.

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[–] Poncho567 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I looked up David Flint Stone in Hawaii: https://www.mylife.com/dave-flintstone/dave-flintstone. His last address is listed as 220 Puuhale Rd. STE B3 Honolulu 96819. I looked up this address, it is The Stone Factory, LLC. The business started Oct 2, 2008; file #64978. The LLC business license is terminated, was registered to David S. Chang https://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/business.pdf?fileNumber=64978C5. A "Zombie" trademark application for a distillery at the same address was abandoned : https://www.bizapedia.com/trademarks/zombie-85743289.html (and here) https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=85743289&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=documentSearch However, this application for "Zombie" trademark for a distillery at the same address occurred in 2012, which was before The Stone Factory license termination : https://www.bizapedia.com/trademarks/zombie-85743289.html The Articles of termination for The Stone Factory LLC was May 2, 2013 https://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/business.html?fileNumber=64978C5&view=transactions Here is a Google maps view of The Stone Factory https://www.google.com/maps/place/220+Puuhale+Rd/@21.3249201,-157.8874467,3a,90y,281.07h,78.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sMgUzmLBUg7I46PXuDmhvqA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DMgUzmLBUg7I46PXuDmhvqA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D332.94458%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m6!3m5!1s0x7c006e5b9a4ebf85:0x6e24e4be036d1a45!4b1!8m2!3d21.3251556!4d-157.8877251

David S. Chang is a very successful businessman in Honolulu. https://www.linkedin.com/in/dschang Chang Holding Company mentions The Stone Factory as one of Mr. Chang's successes. Here is the article that links the Chang Holding Company with The Stone Factory http://pacificedgeawards.com/building-relationships-is-key-2011-pacific-edge-magazine-young-professional-of-the-year-david-chang-of-chang-holding-company/ The article is also featured on the Chang Holding Company website http://changholding.com/news/2013/4/23/building-relationships-is-key.co/. The trade name application by Island Distillers Inc. for KAMEHAMEHA HAWAIIAN SPICED RUM again has a mailing address of 220 PUUHALE RD. #B3 HONOLULU, Hawaii 96819 which is the address of The Stone Factory. https://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/trade.html?fileNumber=224299D1&certificate=4086899 Top of Form David Flintstone makes Hawaiian moonshine, too: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/09/okolehao-hawaiis-moonshine_n_5769464.html and http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/news/2016/08/31/island-distillers-to-open-expanded-distillery.html?ana=RSS%26s=article_search David Flintstone owns both Island Distillers Inc. and Island Distillers Foundation. https://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/search.html?recordType=ALL&entityType=ALL&status=ALL&beginsWith=true&query=island+distillers.

David Flint Stone/ David Flintstone is connected to The Stone Factory and Island Distillers Inc. and Island Distillers Foundation. David Flintstone is also connected to Bif Skipman the Mr. Potato head https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1459779. Bif Skipman on his last Facebook post spoke about the petition to remove the Merrie Monarch tag from the Hawaiin Moonshine of the Island Distillers Inc https://www.facebook.com/bif.skipman?lst=100003825806226%3A100000816313139%3A1481040042 Here is the actual petition to Mr. Flintstone on change.org https://www.change.org/p/dave-flintstone-remove-the-kal%C4%81kaua-neck-hanger-from-hawaiian-moonshine-bottles .

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[–] awgeezrick 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I had commented on the other thread about this, but I am going to copy and paste it all here because I feel like it may help in some way because it may tie into some kind of money laundering/possible transfer of CP on HD's:

This is all very compelling, definitely a bit chilling. So honestly I was debating for a while if I even wanted to share this because I don't know if it is relevant, but here goes. My friend was talking to me about these "blueray cordless headphones" he bought from a random seller on eBay a few days ago and when he got the package it was pretty sketchy looking (but thats besides that point) I guess he found out through his own ways that they obviously had other accounts selling items for insanely high prices. But he would basically sell a tablet for a quarter to a certain buyer (I'm assuming?) then the buyer would put the tablet back up for so much money and the guy buys it back. He sent me a link to the price of one of the pricey tablets (approx 3,000 USD) If you go to the seller's store EVERYTHING is like 2,000-3,000 USD; even baby toys! Could this possibly have something to do with this? Or maybe this is money laundering?

Apparently he had taken screenshots of a lot of things and he found that this seller was posting some kind of nonsensical script on comment sections on news sites/articles, he also screenshotted his Username(s), and photos of his package he had received from this seller and posted them on a forum (I'm not sure if it was 4chan, reddit, etc, but I can ask him). Him and the other users within the thread concluded it was some kind of money laundering for porn on HD's....

It gets a bit weirder, he got a DM from somebody, vaguely threatening him. They told him essentially to back off or he would face "the consequences". He simply replied "lol" the first time, but then the user started talking about the murder rate in my friend's hometown "New Mexico" and how the cops would never solve his murder due to the inexperience. But my friend for sure uses a proxy so it wasn't really his hometown obv. He reported this user and sent the thread to the mods. No response. Then his account was deleted and the thread was deleted. He said he checked if the other user's profile was there and it was. So he thinks the user was a mod or paid a mod to do hire bidding.

I'm really sorry if this is off topic, but it's kind of been blowing my mind especially while I've been digging into pizzagate. Maybe it will help something, somehow. I can post pictures or links to this store I found with everything priced for thousands of dollars.I kind of want to message them and just ask why the hell everything is so expensive just to see if they respond. I don't know if I should, though.

*Edit: The storefront "Create the Future" that is selling all of their items from $3,000 USD is located on AMAZON. Two other suspicious storefronts could possibly be Newegg and Kocaso. It's not allowing me to post the link directly to the store front, but if you go to Amazon, search for "Create the Future" as a store. Or look up NVIDIA SHIELD Tablet (WiFi) , click on "See all buying options" button, then scroll to the very bottom and click "Show all offers". There is one of them for $2,990 from Create the Future, click on their name then at the top there's a link to view the store front. You can see all of the prices are $2,990 regardless of the item>

**New Edit: Apparently my friend initially purchased them on Amazon instead of Ebay.

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[–] spez_dispenser 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Another example:

(copy/paste and add www. in front of the links)

drpong.net/linken.php << Go to goodandplenty.de

goodandplenty.de/ << Click on antishop in the menu

goodandplenty.de/antishop/antishop.html << Click on an item in the store

goodandplenty.de/antishop/elektronik/elektronik.html << Prices are insanely high for total junk (like 650 Euros for old electronics)

It doesn't seem to be a functioning store front, but imagine what they are really selling.

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[–] apparatchik1488 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Good find man.

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[–] spez_dispenser 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This is all very compelling, definitely a bit chilling. So honestly I was debating for a while if I even wanted to share this because I don't know if it is relevant, but here goes. My friend was talking to me about these "blueray cordless headphones" he bought from a random seller on eBay a few days ago and when he got the package it was pretty sketchy looking (but thats besides that point) I guess he found out through his own ways that they obviously had other accounts selling items for insanely high prices. But he would basically sell a tablet for a quarter to a certain buyer (I'm assuming?) then the buyer would put the tablet back up for so much money and the guy buys it back. He sent me a link to the price of one of the pricey tablets (approx 3,000 USD) If you go to the seller's store EVERYTHING is like 2,000-3,000 USD; even baby toys! Could this possibly have something to do with this? Or maybe this is money laundering?

Yes. It's common in the art world as well. For larger transaction values, you need an art gallery, or perhaps a foundation.

So the reasonable deduction from all of this rampant and unfounded hypothesizing I found myself engaging in was this: people are using this "art" to evade the tax man. It's simple: I sell you this bag of dog waste that Damien Koons scooped up from the gutter in the Bowery which is so relevant and your insurance agent assesses it at $1,000,000 and you have an instant non-taxable commodity. Okay - maybe it's taxable - but it's "art" so it falls through all kinds of loop holes. Then you turn around two years later and pass it onto your "friend" who happens to have an apartment in TriBeCa you want to buy. You two strike a deal in which you transfer the now famous bag of dog excrement to your friend for three million dollars and he sells you the apartment at a steep discount for one million. He saves on capital gains, you get a $4,000,000 apartment for $1,000,000; he owns the perceived value of the dogshit container, and your apartment is still worth four million on the books.

http://www.jessewaugh.com/blog/2013/4/6/gaming-belief

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[–] awgeezrick 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'll do my best to get more screenshots from him for the sake of research and archiving since I'm trying to look further into this kind of stuff.

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[–] awgeezrick 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

He does have screencaps, he sent me some of them during the conversation but I didn't see any of the convo with the person who had threatened him, but I understand which is why I decided I would look a little more into this. That is exactly how I found "Create The Future" on Amazon.

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[–] apparatchik1488 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Sounds like money laundering, not sure how it is connected.

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[–] awgeezrick 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well if it's related to the process of how people are able to sell and buy CP loaded on HD's then this kind of information may be worth looking into.

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[–] LD30 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I don't know wether or not this is relevant but did anyone of you read the feedbacks of Cheesybay. There are two identical reviews: "‹(•¿•)› Great communication. ‹(•¿•)› A pleasure to do business with." Dec 01, 2016 " ‹(•¿•)› Great communication. ‹(•¿•)› A pleasure to do business with. ‹(•¿•)›" Nov 30, 2016

I don't know if it's just me or given the topic we are discussing but... doens't this ‹(•¿•)› look like a... baby face?

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[–] Poncho567 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Since 2003 Tanaka Properties Inc. from Baltimore, Maryland has owned the warehouse where Island Distillers Inc. was from ? until 2014. When Island Distillers Inc. first registered in 2008 it had a p.o. box for the street address of the corporation, not even a real address for a distillery location so I'm not sure when they started at the warehouse. The Stone Factory was at the warehouse from 2008 until 2012. http://www.propertyshark.com/mason/Property-Report/?propkey=87578392 . Tanaka Properties Inc. is registered as a domestic LLC in Baltimore and and a foreign LLC Honolulu. The warehouse was sold for $68,422,900 in 2003. That's a lot of money for a warehouse. It appears that Tanaka is a common name in Hawaii. There are a lot of Tanaka LLCs such as Tanaka Capital Management, distributors, enterprise (trucking & hauling), Farm, etc. (so why does Tanaka Properties Inc. from Baltimore own the warehouse?). I can't find much information about Tanaka Properties Inc. from Baltimore except the address 255 Washington St. #230 Newton, MA 02458. I'm not sure if this if helpful or not. I'm just wondering if the warehouse is still used for anything happening at the Pakala distillery or not, if Tanaka Properties Inc. is somehow involved or not.

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[–] apparatchik1488 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Seems like there is a lot of Japanese involvement in Hawaii too. Strange that a Baltimore company is in Massachusetts.

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