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[–] Fambida 5 points 22 points (+27|-5) ago 

This rule is fucking retarded and I can only assume you are acting in bad faith. Did the lessons of Reddit teach you nothing?

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[–] NOMOCHOMO 6 points 14 points (+20|-6) ago  (edited ago)

He's still trying to justify Crensch going powermod and banning me for repeating a question [in response to Crensch's evasive counterQ's]

(I'm still banned from v/pizzagate!!!...Because this is a Cross-Stickied PizzagateMods post, I'm able to comment. Plz advocate for my ban reversal. It's up to the community, @Vindicator is "on the fence".)

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[–] Angelis_Solaris 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Well it would be useful for NOMOCHOMO to reply on one of his comment chains which is being wrecked by a New Age priest claiming that Wilhelm Reich was not advocating pedophilia when he clearly was. What does NOMO need to do to be unbanned?

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[–] NoBS 5 points 2 points (+7|-5) ago 

Please use the unmoderated subs to expose censorship. It will connect the dots and verify the pedo-protectors on this site. The only reason to censor (on the spot) is to remove child porn or doxing a citizen investigator. Doxing a public figure who profits off exposing pedophiles is the only exception to the rule. Yet even child porn can be used to expose the assholes behind the camera through meta data. A powerful citizen investigative tool which has become weaponized to protect organized pedo's.

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[–] YogSoggoth ago 

Here watch this in the meantime. Tales of the Unexpected - Skin ep 011 - YouTube

Search domain www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-JaYQP7T6Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-JaYQP7T6E

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[–] Vindicator [S] 7 points -3 points (+4|-7) ago 

Happy to unban you, Nomo, just as soon as you are happy to accept Rule 1 and Rule 4 and the authority of mods to enforce them.

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[–] Voatsecrets3 13 points 1 point (+14|-13) ago  (edited ago)

Why did Voat change the rules specifically because of @TrustTheTruth?

Why would the goal posts about comments suddenly change after so many years?

WHO THREATENED TO SUE VOAT, AND IS THE REASON FOR THESE CHANGES?

Why did they close the site to public visitors before they begin scrubbing the content?

Who controls Voat and who DIRECTED Crensch to ban The Truth?

What was the trigger?

Why could No One ever dispute or disprove Them?

What was The Truth shared? Why did moderators issue death threats?

Who kept asking about what happened to @Jem777 and @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt?

What if Jeff Epstein and Seth Rich were Knights of Pythias as shared, and neither were dead?

We know more than Everyone here combined.

There are so many more Secrets that None of You know.

What would they be so afraid of the world finding out?

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[–] eucalyptus_spearmint 1 point 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

That comment about "never any proof" and repetitive comments was RIGHT ON.

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[–] NoBS 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago 

Ever read animal farm? The mods sure have and are just being pigs about it.

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[–] QualityShitposter 3 points 19 points (+22|-3) ago  (edited ago)

comment abuse and long winded evidence free rants

Are you planning to ban @crensch?

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[–] Piscina 4 points 7 points (+11|-4) ago 

exactly!

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[–] CheeseboogerHimself 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Goddamn well should!

[–] [deleted] 2 points 18 points (+20|-2) ago 

[Deleted]

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[–] NOMOCHOMO 3 points 10 points (+13|-3) ago  (edited ago)

My Response from "the Debacle" which prompted the NEW RULE

(edit: which I posted in the appropriate venue of v/pizzagatemods)

https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods/3433526/20662695

I asked @Crensch a question. He repeatedly evaded with counter questions.

Ego, bruised from the questioning, He then made my membership dependent on proving another users' post.

Crensch's Unprecedented Whim became a user-specific guideline. A Dangerous Despotic Precedent

Repeating a question to a Mod is "baiting" them?

Different Mods hold different users to different standards?

The reason given for my ban is Rule 1: Relevance.

Even though you edited Rule 1 last night (cut/pasting "NSFW" from Rule 5), you didn't change "relevance" to apply to comments. It is a submission standard.

To ban a user for a comment that doesn't fulfill a submission guideline is comment censorship.

Because Relevance does not apply to comments. You changed Rule 5 from "NSFW" to "Comment Abuse" without notifying the pizzagate community.

I am shining a light on Moderation. Any scrutiny is framed as "drama".

Unban me. I broke no rules.

I wont break your Modified Rule 5, but please announce it


https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods/3433526/20642314

you previously said:

"while I was AFK, users DMed him that we had deleted most previous posts about Buck

this time, it's

@think- who knew I was away from the computer all day, pinged Crensch to change the flair

"users" to "think-". Plural to Singular. Your story is changing. Why would @think private message Crensch to moderate, rather than comment and tag him publically. You are proving that ya'll do hold different users to different standards. Apparently some have back channel influence.

So you think you should have free rein to shit up other people's submissions with your rants about how bad you think moderation is?

QUIT MISCHARACTERIZING MY COMMENTS

your hyperbolic claims of "baiting" have grown into a "rant"

I merely QUESTIONED him

A. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20631962.

B. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20632100

C. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20632406

D. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20632582

E. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20632802

F. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20632873

Which of these is a "rant" ?

Putt added the Voat User Agreement to the rule violations list moderators can cite some time ago,

"When you receive notice that there is content that violates this user agreement on subverses you moderate, you agree to remove it."

Cite the user agreement rule I broke.

@Crensch could have done the same in your case

What users have asked for me to be banned? Who have I impersonated?

Unban me.

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[–] NOMOCHOMO 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

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[–] NOMOCHOMO 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

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[–] Piscina 3 points 12 points (+15|-3) ago 

Do you mean abuse like this:

[–] Crensch -1 points (+1|-2) 6 months ago

@Piscina, did you ever figure it out, you stupid cunt?

link context reply ...

Or this:

[–] srayzie 1 point (+4|-3) 8 months ago (edited 8 months ago)

@Piscina loves cunt cakesJPEG

link context reply ...

Or maybe this:

[–] Crensch 1 point (+4|-3) 8 months ago

@piscina

I guess you realized you were wrong. Typical of a Jewish cunt to not admit it.

By your own standards, both of these mods should be banned. Here's another one:

[–] srayzie 2 points (+3|-1) 8 months ago

@Auralsects and @Piscina are the biggest cock suckers on Voat.

link context reply ...

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[–] CheeseboogerHimself 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

oy vey its different when (((they))) do it. Rules are for the goys.

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[–] twistedmac11 1 point 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

I'm sorry I'm late to the party. This is fucking hilarious.

The [O] of the sub can insult users in rants but regular users will get banned for less.

Fucking lol. Such hypocrisy. It's no wonder v/pizzagate is dead. I can't figure out, though, if you're being deliberately obtuse or if you're a willing accomplice.

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[–] NOMOCHOMO 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago  (edited ago)

deliberately obtuse or if you're a willing accomplice.

aren't they the same thing?

edit: I dont think Vin is acting with ill will. I think he still suspects me, and outside of doxing myself never won't.

It's also the responsibility of users to hold Mods accountable, and they shouldn't be punished or discouraged for it.

However, Modding becomes identity driven, rather than information driven.

Mods default to analyzing patterns of behavior rather than content provided, as it's easier.

But it's not necessarily accurate. Many shills in the past have destabilized/muddled, the board with deliberately irrelevant submissions.

So now, anyone who questions, critiques, or argues is deemed a "disruptor"....regardless of validity.

I'm not denouncing anyone for it. It's a sad reality.

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[–] twistedmac11 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Yeah, I messed my wording up a bit on that one. What I meant was is he ignorant, or is he aware of the hypocrisy and just trying to play it off?

I agree that a few "disruptors" (whether they're shills or just trolls) messed things up and that mods have to be on guard. However they have to realize that bringing the hammer down as hard as they have doesn't do v/pizzagate any favors either. It runs people off. If the goal is to spread knowledge/wake people up, what good does it do to push people away? This sub has lost a lot of traffic. I'm sure partially because putt has closed voat off, but even prior to that it had slowed down a lot, and I'm pretty sure behavior of the mods has contributed to that. I know I lost some interest in coming here when I first saw crensch ranting at another pizzagate user and saying this sub wouldn't be here without him, etc.

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[–] Civil_Warrior 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Jewpocrisy methinks!!

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[–] REB_Militia 2 points 1 point (+3|-2) ago 

Since /vpizzagate is dead, where is the center of Pizzagate research now?

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[–] twistedmac11 2 points 1 point (+3|-2) ago 

As far as I know, there isn't one. I would love to be wrong about that, though.

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[–] Roughpatch 1 point 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

What part of this protects free speech?

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[–] Civil_Warrior 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

The nigger censoring for the jew part apparently.

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[–] NoBS 5 points -2 points (+3|-5) ago 

Pedo-Blackmail demands a tool to silence investigators with censorship. To control the narrative.

At least Twitter is honest about it.

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[–] WeirdlyEerie 1 point 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

And...the shattered community's broken pieces are broken into even smaller shards.

Once upon a time, v/pizzagate was a place where people of all perspectives brought their information ore to be weighed. The atmosphere was of respect because all users were presumed competent to winnow the wheat from the chaff by themselves. Even donkeys sometimes carry useful nuggets, and shills reveal their masters.

It was anonymous, and anyone could lurk and learn without logging in. I liked that, as you can probably tell by my sparse contributions. But this is not about me.

Nor you.

It's about the children. They need our unified voice to stop their systemic abuse and global enslavement by elites.

We need to do better than banning one another and fueling endless in-group/out-group melodrama.

I suppose the only courtesy I would like to see is that people refrain from commenting on or contacting other users at all. We're not here to research each other, and this is not a social club. I think everyone should be unbanned, even ones I dislike, because my dislike is irrelevant.

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[–] Civil_Warrior ago 

Immediately stop listening when you are urged to to do it for the children.

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[–] Piscina 5 points 8 points (+13|-5) ago  (edited ago)

I have read the exchange between @nomochomo and Crunsch. Crunsch is very sad and pathetic, and it shows. He recognises his own inadequacies and failings and, in an attempt to embiggen himself, he must use what little power he has as a mod, to abuse, belittle, besmirch. He is a tyrannical little nobody, who, because he recognises he's on the bottom rung of life's ladder, must tear others down to make himself feel less inadequate. He needs psychiatric help, not to be given carte blanche to take out his anger on innocent people.

23088 subscribers

~15 user(s) here now

Yes, 15 out of a possible 23,088. Why only 15? Because mods have managed to push investigators away.

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[–] NOMOCHOMO 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

I thank you so much for speaking out on my behalf.

People fear becoming a target and getting banned themeselves. Thus many downvoat but haven't commented

I encourage ya'll to exercise your right to free expression.

Public pushback prevents Mod Over-Reach

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[–] Piscina 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

yes, I know that's why people don't comment: they fear they are the next ones on the list to be targeted by Crunsch.

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[–] Piscina 4 points 3 points (+7|-4) ago 

Orwellian thought police. People are too frightened to state the bleeding obvious: that the emperor has no clothes.

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