[–] Vindicator 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

I was not trying to curtail comments by mods. I was trying to refocus energy from useless shittalking onto whatever is really happening with the whole Jenny/Jem/Webb/Gritz death thing, which we still don't understand. Maybe that's stupid, but this is actually the first time in my life I've ever been accused of being responsible for someone else's death by an irrational crowd. After a week in which ES, AWS, argosciv and a number of the folks in the Jem threads all bitched to me about mods bullying users, it sounded to me like a new mod attack narrative forming which we didn't need to provide free ammunition to. I asked these guys to ignore each other, just as you suggested I ignore ES, which for the most part, I have.

This myth of me "running the mod team" is kind of silly. The only influence I have is whatever advice of mine they choose to take. I can't demod anyone, make them do anything, or control them in any way. I can lead by example, which I try to do, and in general, I personally don't patrol Comments and call people out for voicing opinions about research topics. I stick to the content of submissions. It was made abundantly clear to me by kevdude and you that Voat would not accept that kind of biased behavior from moderators in a big subverse like v/pizzagate. When I call people out, it is for baseless attacks on other users, doing things that damage the subverse, spreading false information, or trying to suppress other user's freedom of speech.

[–] Crensch [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I was not trying to curtail comments by mods. I was trying to refocus energy from useless shittalking onto whatever is really happening with the whole Jenny/Jem/Webb/Gritz death thing, which we still don't understand.

I get it.

Maybe that's stupid, but this is actually the first time in my life I've ever been accused of being responsible for someone else's death by an irrational crowd.

Can't feel good. They're obviously nutcases. Making that submission now.

After a week in which ES, AWS, argosciv and a number of the folks in the Jem threads all bitched to me about mods bullying users, it sounded to me like a new mod attack narrative forming which we didn't need to provide free ammunition to.

The usual suspects complaining when SHTF.

I asked these guys to ignore each other, just as you suggested I ignore ES, which for the most part, I have.

Forgive me for not recalling the details here.

This myth of me "running the mod team" is kind of silly.

I wasn't really able to frame your words in any other way. I didn't know what your intentions were here. I consider this team YOUR mod team, as you work closely with them and I do not. I try to stay hands off with you more or less running things.

The only influence I have is whatever advice of mine they choose to take. I can't demod anyone, make them do anything, or control them in any way.

Any mod you don't want on the team will be removed.

I can lead by example, which I try to do, and in general, I personally don't patrol Comments and call people out for voicing opinions about research topics.

Everyone looks up to you as the best mod PG can have, and likely the only one really capable of doing the job right.

It was made abundantly clear to me by kevdude and you that Voat would not accept that kind of biased behavior from moderators in a big subverse like v/pizzagate. When I call people out, it is for baseless attacks on other users, doing things that damage the subverse, spreading false information, or trying to suppress other user's freedom of speech.

Reasons matter. I don't think some of your reasoning was expressed to your mods, and they took things the wrong way. I could be wrong there, but I certainly didn't know about your position and thoughts before what I know now. I think I probably will not be the only one to think that way.

I now realize how hellacious this past week has been for you, and if I had known before writing this what I know now, I'd have worded things differently, or maybe this post wouldn't have been necessary right now.

Since I'm in the habit today of overstepping my bounds, I think everyone would be happier if you would share the load. Let the rest of us in on the what and why of your thought processes when SHTF for you. Don't just keep up the invincible superman act, because we're not going to understand the motivations behind your words. You have mods that really REALLY think the world of you and want to help. Lean on them.

Sorry for the textual backhand; I didn't realize you were having such a hard time, and nobody seemed to understand why you wanted them off Argosciv's back. What I perceived would happen wasn't going to be pretty, and SOMETHING had to shake loose.

That's no excuse, though, and it was wrong of me. Sorry, bud.

[–] Vindicator 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Don't just keep up the invincible superman act, because we're not going to understand the motivations behind your words. You have mods that really REALLY think the world of you and want to help. Lean on them.

Haha...didn't know that's what I was doing. I thought I WAS leaning on y'all for help. Did not realize I was not communicating clearly. I was attempting to. My bad.

No worries.

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[–] Crensch [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

@Vindicator

Sorry, bud. Didn't realize I didn't ping you here, completely unintentional.

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[–] EffYouJohnPodesta 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Well he's a real shill, that's for sure, and he's attacked me on numerous occasions for the past two years. I didn't gather my proof, but any time I see his name I expect B.S. to follow.