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[–] kevdude 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

So then all the trolls have to do is coordinate to downvote legitimate users into negatives in order to get them banned from the sub.

Bad idea.

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[–] Micheal84 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I agree, lets just ignore them, and keep downvoting them.

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[–] Crensch 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

And the fact that we want them to keep using known usernames for their bullshit.

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[–] think- 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Haha.

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[–] Cc1914 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Do you think it's ok to drink blood as long as it's consensual ? Argosciv does and he thinks he's a dragon?! Heads up if you don't already know!

https://imgur.com/gallery/aAcxH

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[–] LostandFound 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Don't ban negative ccp please it will leave new users vulnerable to getting brigaded and unable to contribute. Look I know these guys are annoying but I find responding to them is good exercise to the challenges we face communicating with others outside of this site. Plus I like to know when dealing with a shill so banning the accounts will just mean we deal with a flurry of alts users will start downvoating new users on principal, they would probably gank their own alts with downvoats and then try and call us out when they get banned.

We were all banned once because our speech was unpopular. We then found voat which took us in, even if they didn't find our speech popular they respected our right to say it.

If someone wants to disagree with us that should be ok too, users should not fear unpopular oppinions. Paid or unpaid I know we can resist the scrutiny regardless. In the spirit of voat I say let the haters in, and every time they question us we humiliate them publically.

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[–] think- 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Look I know these guys are annoying but I find responding to them is good exercise to the challenges we face communicating with others outside of this site.

Good point.

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[–] Cc1914 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Thanks for getting this discussion going . Now before I even contribute to this conversation I would like to call on @argosciv to explain his " consentual" blood drinking !?!? https://imgur.com/gallery/aAcxH I see you tagged him so what better time then now to have him explain. After all we're here in investigating SRA in which they use blood and we have a flippen blood drinker who thinks he's a dragon in the midst of us ?! Can anyone understand my concerns ?

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[–] argosciv 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Just to let you know, seeing as how you haven't figured it out, I've had you blocked for weeks - your blatant smear attempts were entertaining at first, now they bore me senseless. Have fun, though.

PS: What that means, is I don't get any notifications from you whatsoever. I do however, occasionally check posts from people I block, if the occasion calls for it - I even unblock people sometimes. Lo and behold, though, I give you the benefit of the doubt in this thread and check your comment only to find you carrying on with the same smear campaign...

You had your chance to read between the lines and ask the right questions, unfortunately you've made your choice to go the opposite direction.


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[–] Cc1914 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Blatant smear attacks ? Explain yourself ! And you blocking me doesn't hurt my feelings . Honestly . It also doesn't prevent me from telling others the truth about you . If it's not true then what is this ? https://imgur.com/gallery/aAcxH

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[–] Vindicator 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

IShallNotFear, thanks for making this post and getting such a lively discussion going about the pros and cons. :-) I think our New Years Resolution should be to give Donkey the silent treatment. If he can't get a rise out of people, he'll probably get bored.

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[–] bibigirl_ 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I can't understand half of what he's talking about at any given time.

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[–] argosciv 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Makes me laugh sometimes, gotta treat some of it as hyperbole and take it with a grain of salt xD

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[–] heygeorge 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I think it very quickly becomes a game of whack-a-mole if users are being continually banned from the subverse (but not necessarily breaking site rules).

In many ways, it's far easier to identify the agitators if they have an account which is uber negative. This also helps to prevent new commenters from being piled upon.

There's no way for a subverse mod to ban by IP. At the admin level, I'm sure it's possible, but at this point is undocumented. A diligent troll would simply work-around the limitation very quickly and perhaps be able to cause even more trouble by causing "legitimate" IP's to be banned.

Finally, I'll add that I'm just on here as a designer and have next to zero communications with the actual mods. So my opinion is simply that: My opinion.

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[–] Millennial_Falcon 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I think it's also anti-free-speech to ban people just for getting downvoted. Not to mention shills and vote manipulation. And I agree about the whack-a-mole, although I do whack-a-mole Amalek's accounts, just to discourage him by forcing him to come up w/ new account names and passwords and complete captchas.

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[–] heygeorge 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

anti-free-speech to ban people just for getting downvoted

Precisely! But also reasonable that spammers should at least be made to jump through hoops.

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[–] BLOODandHONOUR 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Aren't you the faggot that bans people for everything?

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[–] TrishaUK 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

You have a block choice, I use this, you dont' have to see their posts but you can still read if you choose too. It works well, no need to ban people. It will backfire.

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[–] think- 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Thanks for reminding us, I'll use it.

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[–] Factfinder2 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Use the block button. Banning creates more problems than it solves and can easily backfire.

I have enjoyed an Are-We-Sure-free experience here for months now because of the back button. It's great.

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[–] think- 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

an Are-We-Sure-free experience

lol

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[–] BLOODandHONOUR 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

No, I don't think anything should change . The new rules could be easily abused toward well intentioned goats. Then we are making up the same nonsense that defines "free speech."

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