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Policy on linking dangerous research
1: Relevance: Posts must be directly relevant to investigation of Pizzagate: the sexual/physical abuse and/or murder of children by elites, child trafficking organized by elites, and/or cover-up of these activities and/or the protection/assistance provided to the people who engage in said activities. See definition of Pizzagate and examples of relevant posts.
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[–] Vindicator 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Glad you're taking it on, VO!
I was not in the news business very long before it became abundantly clear it was completely corrupt. We had a high school girl murdered and left on the football field. The grandfather was speaking to the press. I was covering the story for the local small paper of the suburban town. The way the city journalists, both broadcast and print, treated that man made me never want to be part of such a thing again. The things you have to do to advance in that industry just to a living wage were not worth doing.
I did have the satisfaction a couple of months later, though, of beating several of them in a competition for a regional investigative journalism award. :-)
As for pdfs, I usually only download them from reputable sites...I've never gotten malware. Perhaps others have some advice? @darkknight111 @karenrussel63 any thoughts?
I know the safest way to research is to set up a separate laptop as a "sand box" that can be wiped clean after every session, encrypt it, and use a VPN. I've never set anything like that up, though, because I'm not digging on the dark web or anything. Some previous posts:
https://archive.fo/7xRiH https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2129741
[–] VeryOffended 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Thank you so much for all of that.
I figured corruption and all risks had to do with you distancing yourself, but I've never had the chance to ask an individual person who lived it and didn't want to assume.
I've gone on binges of True Crime Daily on YouTube and sometimes things just seem off. For example, going to family member's houses or the houses of accused expecting them to talk to cameras in an ambush. If they they run away, they're even more guilty and they've already been portrayed as guilty in the episode before they show the ambush. Your reply about that poor grandfather reminded me of that. I'm sorry that this is pretty unrelated. I watch these things, and whenever I see some sort of ambush, I wonder what sort of job that reporter is seeking. Respect for you.
I have a VPN, but I know that's not enough. I've thought about a router to deflect. Never thought about a burner computer of sorts. I know virtual computers are a thing, but that's a bit above me at this point.
I'm afraid of it all and what I might see or uncover. I've asked another here privately, but how do you separate your private life from your research? How do you find the time without upsetting those most important to you? Do you speak about this in your every day life? I find it so hard not to and I find when I do, even when I try and show links and proof, they believe it, but they shut down and forget it and I'm afraid to mention it again if they don't mention it themselves. There is one other person in another state I can speak to about it.
No one wants to hear it. I don't know how to go all in. I have a full time job and when I get home, I have other responsibilities to the people there. I respect you all so much. How do you juggle it? I want to so much. It's always on my mind. I check in constantly. It comes out at the worst of times in social situations (when I'm drinking or someone says something about someone or some situation).
[–] Vindicator 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
I am very fortunate in that my family is very supportive of the time I spend here -- they view it as their way of helping fight the cabal. I talk with them about everything on a daily basis, and they in turn share it with friends and coworkers. Many folks don't have this luxury, though.
Your family and RL are more important than this; if you have to choose, choose them. Our families and their futures, and future generations, are why we are here fighting in the first place. It makes no sense to sacrifice them when there are many hands to do the digging.