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[–] 1Iron_Curtain 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

They are trying to control things far too much and being vulnerable should be the first thing they should be doing rather then sneaking around things and beating around the bush and creating a perimeter around which to manipulate the public and enforce their will. This testifies to how tyrannical the Vatican has become.

They are not helping themselves and only proving themselves to be extremely, extremely corrupt. I feel bad for Catholics, because they deserve better. They should never have elected a Jesuit Latin American as Pope. Never. Its just bad for business and why this is all happening.

[–] Vindicator [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They should never have elected a Jesuit Latin American as Pope.

Unfortunately, lay Catholics have no say in the selection of bishops, cardinals or the pope. Or even of their parish priests, for that matter. This is a governance structure that goes back to the Roman Empire...all the plebs can do is riot in the streets.

[–] 1Iron_Curtain 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Why should they be allowed to? I think the Catholic Church's rigid structuralism is not only going to get them, but get them hard with all the deconstructive madness they have embraced. I think this is what happens when you ground your truth as the only truth and it becomes very troublesome to say the least.

Its hard to do this kind of stuff and why a certain kind of "Unitarian Nietszcheanism" is needed to at least put things in context for not only the individual, but also family and group structures in society. The main question is does God exist and does the current standing of Christianity have validity.

It seems Jesus existed, although some question it, which makes it very difficult to say. What do you think of Anslem's Ontological Proof? I have looked through others and they are not that convincing. God of the Gaps argument is about as stupid as it gets and Pascal's Wager is fraudulent and a way to send you broke.

[–] HennyPenny 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Catholics didn't elect Bergoglio, it was the Vat II mob that forced the Church to back down on it's 2000 year old beliefs in the name of "ecumenical outreach" and who are in control: Jews converted to Catholics, Jewish sympathizers, pro Communists and Freemasons. see Maurice Pinay's book

https://christogenea.org/system/files/resources/PlotAgainstTheChurchComplete.pdf

Make the Church back down on one thing to create doubt and chaos, alter the makeup of the clergy to sow distrust. @carmencita

[–] 1Iron_Curtain 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The Vatican II mob has been in power since Pope John Paul II. I don't think the Freemasons or Communists control the Vatican. I think they facilitate and support them to an extent and have allowed them in through feminism and multi-culturalism. I think the most prevalent thing is Zionism and Hebraism in the Vatican.

The Vatican used to be the faction that stood up against the evils of Zionism to the greatest extent. That is why I love it in a certain manner. I think though when the Church's canon became corrupted, Concilliarism was undone, Monasticism shoved to the other side, it could not formulate anything beyond an Augustinian Soteriology, it put too much emphasis on Ecclesiology and Church structure over reforming and cleaning up its dogmatic and doctrinal core to a lesser extent and the theological underpinnings behind it, and then declared the Pope infallible created all kinds of issues.

I don't think this negates the Catholic Church, being one True, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church, but I am sort of a Unitarian so I do not see it as the upper echelon in truth, but rather as truth in development and process over an evolutionary trek and that it can err and corrode in the long-term.