[–] JackBlack1 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

JA is shady as fuck and the gunman was apparently his personal friend. What a way to get rid of incriminating evidence.

[–] Blacksmith21 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I'd love to hear the "personal friend" info...

[–] BlowjaySimpson 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Edgar Welsh's father was involved in law enforcement and stopping human trafficking in Haiti. He also has/had an IMDB page, and was an aspiring actor at one point in a weird movie.

I don't know the personal friend info.

[–] kazza64 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

in that case the gunman would have been paid

[–] ThisNameAlreadyTaken 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The gunman was an actor. He had a profile on an actor's guild website.

[–] new4now 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

he might have been busted with something big, Father was known, and they played " lets make a deal"

[–] ParsedOutput 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Why would you plan this whole thing if you had access to the hard drive at any time, and could bleachbit it and hit it with a hammer at your leisure?

[–] cantfindmenow 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

To kill two birds with one stone. A narrative for the MSM - pizzagate is dangerous and believers are crazed gunmen Any evidence was destroyed by an outside source (would raise obvious suspicion if CP told the MSM they smashed up their own harddrive)

[–] septimasexta 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I challenge your statement that Alefantis was a personal friend. Please post a link to support. It is possible that they ultimately worked for the same cabal. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1462214

[–] septimasexta 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

HE WAS, HOWEVER, FRIENDS WITH THE INTERIM D.C. POLICE CHIEF AND INVESTIGATING OFFICER:

"At Comet #pizzagate ping pong pizzeria in neighborhood solidarity. Owner Jim Alifantis & Interim-DC Police Chief Peter Newsham below. Cool." SEE PHOTO: http://archive.is/jaUpf#selection-3807.0-3817.120

[–] septimasexta 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

WHO IS SHARIF SILMI? Maryland lawyer Sharif Silmi appears to be the only NAMED and interviewed "witness" of Welch in Comet Ping Pong. Each of his accounts in several different interviews differs.

ARTICLE: "“A lot of us saw he had a gun and we all started getting our families out,” says Sharif Silmi, a Maryland lawyer who was at the restaurant with his wife and three children. “The staff came and got us.”

"Silmi says his family stopped by Comet Ping Pong as part of a day trip to Chevy Chase that also included plans to stop by Politics & Prose and the Little Red Fox bakery, Comet Ping Pong’s neighboring businesses on its homey block of Connecticut Ave., Northwest, which have caught some spillover flak from Pizzagate conspiracy theorists."

"Police, who Silmi says arrived about two to three minutes after the gunman entered the restaurant, have not released the suspect’s name."

Silmi says that since the November 8 election, he and his family, who are Muslim, have felt a bit more cautious." https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/12/04/man-with-rifle-arrested-at-comet-ping-pong/ WRITTEN BY BENJAMIN FREED AND JESSICA SIDMAN | PUBLISHED ON DECEMBER 4, 2016 Benjamin Freed Staff Writer Benjamin Freed joined Washingtonian in August 2013 and covers politics, business, and media. He was previously the editor of DCist and has also written for Washington City Paper, the New York Times, the New Republic, Slate, and BuzzFeed. He lives in Adams Morgan. (near Comet Ping Pong)

ANOTHER ARTICLE: "Eyewitness Sharif Silmi was at the restaurant with his wife and three children — ages 7,9 and 12, when the suspect walked in.

“He walked right past us holding a shotgun, when we realized what was going on we gathered our young ones and started moving toward the exit,” Silmi told CNN. “It was very swift, quick exit, everybody moved out very smoothly.”

Silmi, who lives in Maryland, told CNN he and his family are Muslim and that he blamed those who were spreading “false rumors [about Comet Ping Pong] online. They put our children’s lives in danger today.”

Silmi said he did not hear the man speak." Man armed with assault rifle storms Comet Ping Pong in response to fake news reports: police POSTED 6:18 AM, DECEMBER 5, 2016, BY CNN WIRE https://pix11.com/2016/12/05/man-armed-with-assault-rifle-storms-comet-ping-pong-in-response-to-fake-news-reports-police/

VIDEO INTERVIEW WITH ALEX JONES: Alex jones interviews another "witness," Sharif Silmi. According to his statement in the video, he only saw Welsh "in his peripheral vision" and "could see he had a CONCEALED weapon. HE DID NOT SEE WELSH FIRE A GUN NOR DID HE HEAR GUNSHOTS. HE DID NOT STATE WHAT HE AND HIS FAMILY DID AFTER WELCH WALKED BY. HE DID NOT SAY THAT THEY WERE FRIGHTENED AND RAN OUT. NOTHING. The witness was playing ping pong towards the back middle of the restaurant. He was not still seated up front by the front door. See you tube video at 4:10 http://deadstate.org/alex-jones-scrambles-to-erase-pizzagate-stories-after-d-c-pizzeria-shooting/

VIDEO INTERVIEW WITH AP Silmi thought Welsh was a concealed carry security guard. NO MENTION OF A CRAZED SHOOTER BRANDISHING A LONG FIREARM. Did not say he heard gunshots. Did not say he saw Welsh aim or shoot a gun. Says Welsh entered the back section room behind the ping pong tables. It was dark and closed off. It wasn't until a waitress told them to get out of the building that they left. Silmi's name is not mentioned in the D.C. incident report. The worker(s) who warned patrons (no mention of how many were in there at that time) HAVE NEVER BEEN NAMED NOR INTERVIEWED IN THE PRESS. Only ONE worker was named in the D.C. incident report. That is the one Welsh allegedly pointed a gun in their direction and they fled out the back door and called police. THIS IS THE INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS THE VICTIM OF "Assault with a dangerous weapon". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTLDKzn80nU

THE FINAL INCIDENT REPORT (See "Public Narrative" at bottom.) https://www.scribd.com/document/333293577/Comet-Gunman-Incident-Report

[–] BlowjaySimpson 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Traffic cams around comet went out the day before.

[–] cantfindmenow 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Is there any links for this fact so I can add it to my blog? Thanks

[–] septimasexta 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

COMET PING PONG TRAFFIC CAMERAS MOVED 24 HOURS BEFORE GUNMAN INCIDENT – PIZZA PLACE LINKED TO PEDOPHILE RING CONSPIRACY A.K.A. #PIZZAGATE https://70news.wordpress.com/tag/camera/

[–] millennial_vulcan 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

what's your blog?

[–] MrShekelstein 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

The jews biggest downfall, sloppy cover ups.

[–] goytoynamedtroy 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

This.

People that still fall for (((their))) lies deserve to get fucked.

[–] septimasexta 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

EVIDENCE OF REPORT TO DC POLICE (FBI) REGARDING CP ON COMET COMPUTER- See video:

"It seems Detective Jeremiah Johnson is actually an FBI agent, so if he is investigating it, then the FBI is handling it not the DC Police. Honeybee video on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt9IfKA1me0YouTube

I played an audio recording of a phone call that was sent to me by BigFish the hacker who broke into comet Ping Pong, where he once again gets the runaround by DC Police Detective Godin who won't confirm or deny anything, when trying to find out why nothing has been done about this. Audio played during.

Email from Det. Godin confirming receipt of information as requested during phone call." https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@titusfrost/stwt-23-pizzagate-fbi-investigating-comet-ping-pong-for-cp-sealed-indictments-saudi-arabia

[–] septimasexta 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS? What appears to be TWO versions of alleged "fired on closet" with "tower computer" inside:

Two weeks after alleged shooting Fox News showed us this video of Alefantis at the closet: see 3:53 in video. Notice DOOR IS NOT DAMAGED. Notice door at end of hallway. Is this the door the employee entered when he encountered Welch? Did employee report hearing gun shot(s)? There is only ONE back door at Comet.

COMPARE WITH THIS PHOTO, allegedly first published June 21, 2017: "New photos show Comet Ping Pong crime scene ahead of gunman’s sentencing" https://wtop.com/dc/2017/06/comet-ping-pong-gunman-sentenced-thursday/slide/1/ Scroll down to photos. It's the 5th from left. It shows a similar hallway as in video above, BUT IT IS NOT THE SAME. THE BACK DOOR IS DIFFERENT. Does Alefantis' nearby Buck's Fishing restaurant have a similar hallway and back door? ALWAYS MORE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.

[–] Adminstrater 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The courts need the benefit of the doubt to not lock away a criminal, but you don't need all the dots to recognize a pattern.

[–] truthdemon 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Or maybe their handlers have designed it that way.. ...the false jews are too dumb to rralise they are controlled and manipulated into these deeds..by a venetian merchant elite...

[–] Rawrination 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Who'm ever is behind it. It always comes back to a bunch of assholes raping , murdering, and eating, children. A bunch of satan worshiping fucks no matter what other label they chose.

[–] NotHereForPizza 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What was that?

Sloppy cover-ups?

Nah, but we're about to be hearing about Horry County soon, fellas. Grab your popcorn!

[–] unclassified 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well they're slick enough to never get prosecuted.

[–] Blacksmith21 2 points 8 points (+10|-2) ago 

I thought there were three shots fired? Regardless, shooting into a deadbolt isn't going to result in a deflection with enough destructive energy to penetrate a PC case and destroy a hard drive.

[–] septimasexta 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

According to police incidence report: Door, doorlock, computer tower, barrier wall was damaged/destroyed

According to the "public narrative" at the bottom of the page, NO ONE WITNESSED MADISON FIRING THE GUN. https://www.scribd.com/document/333293577/Comet-Gunman-Incident-Report

COMET PING PONG TRAFFIC CAMERAS MOVED 24 HOURS BEFORE GUNMAN INCIDENT – PIZZA PLACE LINKED TO PEDOPHILE RING CONSPIRACY A.K.A. #PIZZAGATE https://70news.wordpress.com/tag/camera/

When I followed this story in real time, as I recall, there were NO customers that witnessed Maddison inside Comet Ping Pong and NO reports of gunfire. James Alefantis was not at Comet Ping Pong that day. The "assault" charge was based on a single Comet kitchen employee who came in the back door as Maddison was allegedly in the area. The rifle was swung in his GENERAL direction, but I don't recall a specific claim that it was DIRECTLY pointed at him. The employee allegedly turned around and ran out and called the police. The employee did not report hearing a gun shot.

My original conclusion at the time was that no gun was fired. Researchers discovered that about a month prior to the incident, Maddison had been involved in a documented car incident in North Carolina where he had hit and injured a 13 year old who was walking on the side of the road with other friends. An early article said the youth's friends claimed that Maddison was the only car on the road at the time and the accident could have been avoided. One theory at the time was that Maddison was given a plea deal and he was used to carry out Comet Ping Pong. This would have been cover to obtain the tower computer, WHICH IS LISTED IN THE FINAL POLICE REPORT. After "capture", his sentencing could have been time previously required in the theorized plea deal. Remember, Maddison did have ACTING EXPERIENCE.

"28-year-old Edgar Maddison Welch, of Salisbury, N.C., REPORTEDLY (emphasis mine) fired the rifle at least once inside the restaurant but no one was injured." https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/57362/comet-pizza-gunman-to-plead-guilty-in-plea-deal-with-us.html

THE FINAL INCIDENT REPORT LISTS NO WITNESSES TO THIS HAPPENING. (See "Public Narrative" at bottom.) https://www.scribd.com/document/333293577/Comet-Gunman-Incident-Report

"D.C. Police press release on arrest of Edgar Maddison Welch, 28, of Salisbury, NC for assault w/dangerous weapon at Comet restaurant." https://twitter.com/SafeDC/status/805589446087344128

WHAT IS LEGAL DEFINITION OF ASSAULT? "a) an unsuccessful attempt to commit a battery (i.e. a swing and a miss); or

b) any act that would cause a reasonable person to fear or apprehend an immediate battery (i.e. a fake slap to make someone flinch, but without actually touching them)."

WHAT IS LEGAL DEFINITION OF "DANGEROUS WEAPON"? "Some things like guns, knives, brass knuckles and other typical weapons obviously would meet the definition of “dangerous weapon.” But even something designed for a completely peaceful purpose can be a “dangerous weapon” if it is used or intended to be used in a way likely to cause serious physical injury or death. A common example is a car or glass bottle. When there is a question as to whether or not something like this is a “dangerous weapon,” it is up to a Jury to decide." https://www.michiganassaultandbatteryattorney.com/felony-offenses/felony-assault/

WELCH DID NOT HAVE TO FIRE A WEAPON TO BE CHARGED WITH THIS, but only point the gun in the direction of the employee. I think the final incident report has some "holes" in it.

"COMET PIZZA GUNMAN TO PLEAD GUILTY IN PLEA DEAL WITH U.S. ATTORNEY" https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/57362/comet-pizza-gunman-to-plead-guilty-in-plea-deal-with-us.html

[–] septimasexta 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

"(D.C.) Police Chief Peter Newsham said the lone suspect in his late-20s walked in the front door of Comet Ping Pong and APPEARS to have fired one OR multiple shots into the GROUND AFTER employees and patrons had fled. (emphasis mine) The suspect, who police say is from Salisbury, N.C., has not been identified and his motives were not clear. Police said charges were pending."

[–] septimasexta 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

MORE QUESTIONS "Factual proffer of the evidence supporting the charge against the defendant." https://www.scribd.com/document/334394951/Welch-Edgar-Govt-Detention-Memo-Dec-15-2016

Why did the back door victim not hear anything?

[–] septimasexta 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

EARLY REPORTS FROM LOCAL D.C. PAPER SAID "ONE SHOT INTO THE GROUND"! THEY CAN'T GET THEIR STORY STRAIGHT.

"Police said Welch pointed his weapon toward a restaurant employee, who was able to flee. Welch then allegedly fired at least one shot into the ground. No injuries were reported." WRITTEN BY BENJAMIN FREED AND JESSICA SIDMAN | PUBLISHED ON DECEMBER 4, 2016 https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/12/04/man-with-rifle-arrested-at-comet-ping-pong/

[–] [deleted] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

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[–] Octoclops 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Obviously. That's why it's suspicious.

[–] Blacksmith21 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

Like my downvoat already? I know special things and they know it.

[–] Zorrilla 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Also, there haven't been any photos of any bullet holes in the door that I have seen - they certainly aren't visible in the video.

[–] Coloradical2 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

It doesn't matter if it was destroyed or not. What matters is that we think it was destroyed.

[–] mooteensy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Highly underrated comment.

[–] zyklon_b 5 points 4 points (+9|-5) ago 

DEATH TO PEDOS

[–] goytoynamedtroy 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

The fact that some faggot downvoated you is concerning.

[–] zyklon_b 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

Just shows there are pedos amongst us spreading misinfo

[–] septimasexta 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Do any VOATers know how to get "zyclon's" post removed? His post is an opposition tactic. This is not about free speech!

[–] septimasexta 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This is a research site. The proper way to phrase your sentiments would be "I would support the DEATH PENALTY for a convicted pedophile." Your current post could be misconstrued as a threat and compromises the integrity of VOAT.

[–] zyklon_b 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Well if a pedo reads it I hope it fully comprehends I have malicious intentions to murder that monster

[–] septimasexta 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

REPOSTING:

"North Carolina arrest records for an Edgar Maddison Welch date back to 2007, and include charges of possession of up to a half ounce of marijuana, possession of controlled substances, driving after consuming alcohol and driving with an open container of alcohol. He plead guilty on the alcohol and drug charges.

In October, Welch is alleged to have struck a 13-year-old with a car on Harrison Road in Salisbury, according to a WBTV story. He stayed at the scene, it was reported. Officials said the victim suffered head, torso and leg injuries.

Reports emerged late Sunday that Welch might be a struggling actor, with a resume that includes a half dozen minor jobs on film productions, including being an extra and production assistant." http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article118902963.html#storylink=cpy

According to police incidence report: Door, doorlock, computer tower, barrier wall was damaged/destroyed

According to the "public narrative" at the bottom of the page, NO ONE WITNESSED MADISON FIRING THE GUN. https://www.scribd.com/document/333293577/Comet-Gunman-Incident-Report

COMET PING PONG TRAFFIC CAMERAS MOVED 24 HOURS BEFORE GUNMAN INCIDENT – PIZZA PLACE LINKED TO PEDOPHILE RING CONSPIRACY A.K.A. #PIZZAGATE https://70news.wordpress.com/tag/camera/

When I followed this story in real time, as I recall, there were NO customers that witnessed Maddison inside Comet Ping Pong and NO reports of gunfire. James Alefantis was not at Comet Ping Pong that day. The "assault" charge was based on a single Comet kitchen employee who came in the back door as Maddison was allegedly in the area. The rifle was swung in his GENERAL direction, but I don't recall a specific claim that it was DIRECTLY pointed at him. The employee allegedly turned around and ran out and called the police. The employee did not report hearing a gun shot.

My original conclusion at the time was that no gun was fired. Researchers discovered that about a month prior to the incident, Maddison had been involved in a documented car incident in North Carolina where he had hit and injured a 13 year old who was walking on the side of the road with other friends. An early article said the youth's friends claimed that Maddison was the only car on the road at the time and the accident could have been avoided. One theory at the time was that Maddison was given a plea deal and he was used to carry out Comet Ping Pong. This would have been cover to obtain the tower computer, WHICH IS LISTED IN THE FINAL POLICE REPORT. After "capture", his sentencing could have been time previously required in the theorized plea deal. Remember, Maddison did have ACTING EXPERIENCE.

[–] septimasexta 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

"28-year-old Edgar Maddison Welch, of Salisbury, N.C., REPORTEDLY (emphasis mine) fired the rifle at least once inside the restaurant but no one was injured." https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/57362/comet-pizza-gunman-to-plead-guilty-in-plea-deal-with-us.html

THE FINAL INCIDENT REPORT LISTS NO WITNESSES TO THIS HAPPENING. (See "Public Narrative" at bottom.) https://www.scribd.com/document/333293577/Comet-Gunman-Incident-Report

"he drove to Washington in a Toyota Prius" to Comet Ping Pong. https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/57362/comet-pizza-gunman-to-plead-guilty-in-plea-deal-with-us.html Yet, a month earlier, "Police said Edgar Welch, 28, was driving a Buick LeSabre that struck the teen....Investigators have not said how the wreck may have happened or if any charges are being filed." http://www.wbtv.com/story/33467722/13-year-old-struck-by-vehicle-in-salisbury-airlifted-to-hospital

[–] septimasexta 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

"“We was walking down the road, just a normal walk, and this one car had the full road," said Sean Lankford, who was walking in the group. "We was pretty much on the white line and he wiped out one of my friends and he had the whole road to turn into even the whole other lane, even in the same lane he could have avoided him."

“My friend is really really badly hurt, it’s just a normal walk gone bad and one car made a big difference," Lankford added." http://www.wbtv.com/story/33467722/13-year-old-struck-by-vehicle-in-salisbury-airlifted-to-hospital

[–] septimasexta 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

"CPP False Flag Archived Comet Ping Pong shooter has previously lived in Haiti and his father worked as an executive director for Protect-A-Child, a non-profit organization to prevent abuse and abduction of children." https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1462214

ALSO: "The dude is already in some serious trouble that could put him away for stretch so he's a perfect candidate for another clandestine FBI type of fake terror operation that there'll be a show trial and a conviction after which he'll be given a new name and credentials and relocated somewhere else until they need him to play some other part for them." https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5gjkm1/actor_edgar_maddison_welch_used_to_stage_event_at/

[–] septimasexta 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

"D.C. Police press release on arrest of Edgar Maddison Welch, 28, of Salisbury, NC for assault w/dangerous weapon at Comet restaurant." https://twitter.com/SafeDC/status/805589446087344128

WHAT IS LEGAL DEFINITION OF ASSAULT? "a) an unsuccessful attempt to commit a battery (i.e. a swing and a miss); or

b) any act that would cause a reasonable person to fear or apprehend an immediate battery (i.e. a fake slap to make someone flinch, but without actually touching them)."

WHAT IS LEGAL DEFINITION OF "DANGEROUS WEAPON"? "Some things like guns, knives, brass knuckles and other typical weapons obviously would meet the definition of “dangerous weapon.” But even something designed for a completely peaceful purpose can be a “dangerous weapon” if it is used or intended to be used in a way likely to cause serious physical injury or death. A common example is a car or glass bottle. When there is a question as to whether or not something like this is a “dangerous weapon,” it is up to a Jury to decide." WELCH DID NOT HAVE TO FIRE A WEAPON TO BE CHARGED WITH THIS, but only point the gun in the direction of the employee.

[–] Pipebomb 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

If I were going on a mission to save children I wouldn't be firing at closed doors, he could have shot kids if what he believed were true.

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