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[–] Godgiven 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Wow.

A growing portion of the public are finding out the the government is lying and protecting child traffickers.

This is going to cause chaos!!!! It's happening!!!! Clif's predictions are true!!!!

The dollar is going to get fucked. Because it's being propped up anyway and once the American people turn on the ruling government The currency wars will begin! Currencies are falling apart already in Italy it's going to help bring down the euro cad and dollar. The fiat system of the west is doomed!

Get ready for hell!

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[–] DeathToMasonsASAP 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Wrong, the dollar is manipulated and cannot get fucked. The worlds central banks are owned by different combinations of the same 40 or so elite families, the head of which are Rothschild. They can trade in the money they print for any currency. They aren't even spending money when they do it, just holding it in another currency. They all trade their local currencies for dollars simultaneously whenever needed, propping the dollar back up. You aren't aware that all markets are rigged? Watch the dollar vs all currencies simultaneously...they move in unison.

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[–] Godgiven 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The point is they will break the dollar to stop the people from rising against them. Much like the printing of continental dollars, destroying the economy is part of war.

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[–] Godgiven 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Ughhh that would be tough to find. It's within the past 9 months, an interview on youtube, maybe with crypt0, I think he has more than 1 interview with him. it's not on his channel I do not think. however there is a plethora of fake copy cat channels that copy his stuff, so look for view count and channel subscribers and actual original content. probably mid dec to 1st q. 2018 I think it was before btc hit 20k.

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[–] EyeOfHorus 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Not hell unless sovereign gold was pilfered. An uncomfortable reset for the better.

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[–] carmencita 7 points 9 points (+16|-7) ago 

There are probably thousands of human skulls and some of them children (tears) out in the dessert. Since this property belongs to Cemex and they have Cartel connections, a skull is expected evidence. But where did it come from? Did it belong to immigrants crossing the boarder? Did some MS-13 members kill some more people? Yes, they kill children too, even though some of them are not far from that age. Too many unanswered questions as usual. Cemex and the Cabal are not to be trusted.

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[–] Fateswebb 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Yeah but they also found panties, rape trees, etc. It's not "just immigration"

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[–] carmencita 5 points 1 points (+6|-5) ago 

Yes, that is true. But those things can all be planted. I am just saying we need to be careful. AND yes, I am also saying it could still be a trafficking camp, just need to tread carefully.

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[–] urbanmoving 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

And tons of bodies of trafficked out victims too they just don't care to remove or find them believe me

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[–] carmencita 3 points 1 points (+4|-3) ago 

I so agree and it is all so very sad. I am hoping that this story about the camp is true, for it would provide more evidence for our cause. What I am trying to say though is that we have been stiffed before and we need to tread carefully. I commend the guy that found the camp, whether he is a veteran or not. He seems to have helped the homeless and that is honorable.

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[–] DeathToMasonsASAP 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Then why all the holding area and restraints?

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[–] YogSoggoth 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Hold on with your theories until you read the history of the Spanish in Mexico, and how they remained in control well after the so- called revolution. Endless wars is a great condensed book for those with little time. As for Cemex, In 1992, CEMEX began its push into the international landscape with the purchase of Spain's two largest cement companies, Valenciana de Cementos (Valcem, currently head of CEMEX Spain) and Cementos SANSON. Venezuela's largest cement company, VENCEMOS, was acquired by CEMEX in 1994, and plants were purchased the same year in the United States and in Panama. In 1995 CEMEX acquired a cement company in the Dominican Republic, and with the purchase of a majority stake in a Colombian cement company in 1996, CEMEX became the third largest cement company in the world. In 1997-1999, the company expanded its scope to include Asia and Africa, making major purchases in the Philippines, Indonesia and Egypt, as well as Costa Rica. The acquisition of U.S. based Southdown made CEMEX the largest cement company in North America, and further international purchases were made in the following two years—a Thai company in 2001, and in 2002, a Puerto Rican company. All the hot spots. Maybe communism actually still fails just like it always has in the end, and Venezuela was a really bad investment with quadruple negative return per quarter day. What makes immediate cash? Desperation of the extremely rich and ruthless is where my money trail is going. USD= how many Bolivares?

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[–] DeathToMasonsASAP 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

An unexpected response from you. Are you downplaying this? I am asking, not being aggressive.

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[–] carmencita 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No not downplaying just saying before we go whole hog on this we should look at all evidence. Also that we are targets of the elite cabal. Right now I am sitting on the fence. Just waiting til all is looked at. With items being found, yes they can certainly point to child trafficking, but again, they can also be placed there as fake evidence. Not faulting VOP but possibly others.

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[–] Arrvee 3 points 0 points (+3|-3) ago 

It could also have been planted by an over-enthusiastic VOP member to create news, or bad guys looking to discredit VOP with evidence that would backfire on them somehow, or a prankster from an anthropology lab who is trolling everyone.

In the pics that I've seen the skull was clean and sitting out in the open, which is suspicious. That's what you get when you carry a skull into a site and set it down. I didn't see any signs of them having dug it up or brushed dirt off of it.

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[–] Cid 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

In the pics that I've seen the skull was clean

This looks clean? It was kicked out from kicked under bush to see what kind of bone it was if I understand correctly. Their theory is it was from a shallow grave and an animal dug it up, which is plausible.

Edit: Another pic for a size comparison

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[–] DeathToMasonsASAP 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It looked clean? I am not an expert on finding skulls as you seam to be, but it looked like it had sediment on it. Tell us, what the average found skull should look like in the dirt? Some odd expertise in this forum about this subject.

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[–] carmencita 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Oh you are so smart. There are so many out there ready to discredit those that want to do good or especially our cause. Cemex has many at their disposal that are connected to MS 13 and other goons. I was and am still hoping that this camp is the Real McCoy. I have seen a lot though in the almost yr and a half on here, so need to be cautious.

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[–] ESOTERICshade 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I'm convinced the bastards are trafficking children around the border, we all know that is true. Some of the claims the guy from VOP made though just don't seem true. For example:


People have described the "restraints" as being child size and height from the ground. That just ain't true and this picture proves it. This is a grown man standing next to it and it is head level. Also they are different heights and turned different ways.

https://files.catbox.moe/7zfhvr.PNG

https://files.catbox.moe/s4j63y.PNG


If a person was going to make some restraints they would probably make both of them the same way. Turned the same way and at the same height. That looks awkward as hell to be restraints. If they were for children they would also probably be closer to the ground maybe.


Considering they are turned different ways and at different heights it looks like they were either put up at different times and or for different purposes and it looks like both sides are nailed to the tree which would leave no way to tighten them. These things are big enough to stick a whole leg through too. Too big for wrists.


One is turned vertically. That could easily be for sticking a pole through to be attached to the main structure. A way to build an outcrop and extend the camp. If these are restraints its the worst attempt I can think of to make restraints.

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[–] DeathToMasonsASAP 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Title Here Does it look like they hang children low, or at adult level? I thought you investigated PG? Bad day?

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[–] ESOTERICshade 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Title Here Does it look like they hang children low, or at adult level? I thought you investigated PG? Bad day?

I know they hang kids up. I just think the meth head VOP guy is jumping to conclusions. Maybe its just me but I see those damn "wrist restraints" as a functional item for the camp. I think they are for sticking poles through to make a tent frame structure. Then you stretch a tarp over the frame. That is what my eye sees as most likely. Loops too big and can't be adjusted. Rope works wonders, those big ass loops? nahhhhhh Not functional as wrist restraints. A smart person would just use rope because those loops cannot be adjusted to fit a wrist.

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[–] DeathToMasonsASAP 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Kind of agree, but in their art the child is always hanging from straps, not standing. Don't know about your logic. They don't worry about the child's comfort, they hang them at their own level most likely, or do you think they like to bend down to the childs level? You are sloppy today, but I respect you...for now.

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[–] ESOTERICshade 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Kind of agree, but in their art the child is always hanging from straps, not standing. Don't know about your logic. They don't worry about the child's comfort, they hang them at their own level most likely, or do you think they like to bend down to the childs level? You are sloppy today, but I respect you...for now.

i thought about the hanging aspect, but if a person wanted to make some restraints that was a really shitty way to do it. Good old fashioned rope would be a lot easier. Those huge loops would also require some rope to be functional and then the loops would be unnecessary because the rope would be doing all the work. I do not believe those are restraints. If I stick a person's wrist in there I still have to tie their wrist to the damn tree, then I can just cut the "restraints" because they ain't doing jack shit anyway.

One size fits all wrist restraints? nahhhhhh

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[–] SweetChicken 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago 

I’m not a veteran but I want to get involved. It’s time for all of us to get involved

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[–] Pablolove 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I like your spirit

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[–] SweetChicken 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago 

Me too. I showed my wife because she’s naive and doesn’t believe any of it. I keep trying to red pill her but to no avail. Even the site of a child’s skull did nothing. To hell with her ignorance

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[–] DeathToMasonsASAP 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

But you won't, because....

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[–] SweetChicken 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Get fucked. Already sent VOP an email asking how to get involved.

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[–] GreenDell144 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Try and debunk that, Snopes.

I know that the links from illegal immigration... trafficking in Tucson and our cabal are tenuous, but this may be a different type of animal. Think about other trafficking crimes.

A dope seller gets his product and territorial privileges from the criminal power that controls that area... crime families, gangs, etc. Everybody gets their cut. And there is always a fat cat at the top. The boss. The boss cuts deals, bribes local law and government and does what needs to be done to keep business open. Smart bosses have a figurehead in front to appear like the leader.

Think about Tony Soprano. As much as he considered himself the boss, independent from New York, it wasn’t always so. They considered him to be their man in Jersey. And his men thought of him as a ‘lightning rod’, for good reason.

I think pizzagate works like this in a lot f ways. From one point of view, we could be observing a completely independent network of trackers. In a sense, we may never know for sure if they pay a ‘tax’ to masters in the cabal.

However, there are strong indicators to support the idea that AZ is connected to the cabal, IMO.

  1. Law enforcement had a very odd ‘passive/aggressive’ response.

  2. Cemex is an multinational megacorp with Clinton ties and a direct ratline of secure and abondoned facilities all around the world, until now, almost invisible and ignored by the population.

  3. Chelsea and Snopes have been faster than ever to debunk this, so quick on the draw that their paranoia is almost showing.

  4. It’s said the mayor of Tucson is a Rothschild man.

There ain’t No law against speculatin’

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[–] mooteensy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well put

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[–] 13Buddha 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I read a comment last night on a forum. It goes like this:

If the entire population knew the truth, 99% would wind up in the hospital.

I thought about this comment for quite some time in relation to just the USA and the after-effects if a massive and intense truth storm occurred.

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[–] Blacksmith21 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Q111:

"They never thought she would lose. They never thought she would lose. Fantasy land. Fantasy land. The complete picture would put 99% of Americans (the World) in a hospital. POTUS is our savior."

Answer:

"The complete picture would put 99% of Americans (the World) in a hospital.

The world, and our own elites, are far more evil and degenerate than we may imagine. Their corruption is overwhelming and they have worked against the interests of the USA including treason."

Like quoting scripture...

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[–] Vindicator 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yep, 13B...that was QAnon who said that. Months and months ago.

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[–] DeathToMasonsASAP 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

You have relinquished your cred long ago. Your words hold no weight, even when you are correct. That is the price you pay for your conduct.

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[–] theoldones 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

thank god we found something, but this shit makes me physically ill that someone can be so evil.

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[–] twistedmac11 6 points 3 points (+9|-6) ago 

Wow the shilling is so obvious in these comments. As far as the skull goes, I'm with @carmencita. It's cartel territory, so its unfortunately probably expected to find human remains, but to me it doesn't necessarily lend credibility to the child trafficking camp stuff.

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[–] Fateswebb 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

How about the "rape tree" that was at kid level? The panties, the bloody knife, the kids toys abandoned? The femur bone that was sawed off. Sorry but nah not buying it was "just immigration" and heat related accidental death...

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[–] urbanmoving 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

How about the map of the trafficking locations and waypoints he showed the cops and the other "blueprints"

The cops lied snopes is lying non investigating organization how many locals they talk to how many on Team Alpha

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[–] twistedmac11 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The only one of those that would really point to child sex trafficking or abuse would be the "rape trees", see @ESOTERICshade's comment about those https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2582689/12973288

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[–] YogSoggoth 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Unless you realize that the coyotes are not regular humans and are connected to an organized worldwide crime syndicate no matter what their status is. Bushes played them off to fight each other there, and here in the USA.

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[–] carmencita 4 points 0 points (+4|-4) ago 

Not trying to down the theory on the camp, just trying to make sure we cover all bases. https://www.usimmigration.com/immigrants-dead-arizona-desert.html There have been mass graves found and some say they may be killed by cartels. So what I am saying is that we need to cover ourselves. It does happen in the dessert. BUT there is also a chance that this could be what we have been thinking, a trafficking camp. @ESTTERICshade

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[–] DeathToMasonsASAP 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Clearly you have been trying to down this from your first response. Scroll up. EsotericShade just made a ridiculous post that the straps were too high for a child, when we know they have images hanging children form up high, their feet not touching the ground. You two are having a really really bad day. You are both under heavy scrutiny from this point forward.

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[–] PizzaStreamerLive [S] 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Yuup. Look at the attempts of TerdWilson :D

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