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[–] kevdude [S] 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

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[–] Vindicator 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Wow Kev...the shills really seemed disturbed by this thread. :-) Do you think they're all just one guy? LMAO.

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[–] kevdude [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Seems that way.

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[–] GreenDell144 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I would like to see DynCorp exposed and destroyed... And everyone responsible brought to justice. I haven't read much about that recently.

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[–] Blacksmith21 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

A couple of points @kevdude:

  • The relevant, coined "word" is Pedophacracy as used by Dave McGowan, God rest his soul: http://whale.to/b/pedophocracy.html

  • I would encourage - and maybe v/pizzagate is not the forum - any topics dedicated to survivors' stories, if properly submitted. I believe there are a lot of Survivors watching and reading, and believe their stories provide clues, as well as helkp researchers gain a better understanding of the topic. Their story must be heard.

  • Allowance of specific, well-sourced, pedophilia-related "meta". I used to get drilled for this in the early days (I stil ldon't know WTF "meta" really is....it's like aether. But, there are certain topics which I believe, expand the thought processes and help us understand the greater picture - "what is Pizzagate"? [It's this core, the Voat crew. The CPP hammer gang. OG/PG. We kept this shit going and it all comes back to OG/PG. One can parse the PG narrative any way they want, but nothing so far, has been disproven.

Example - a discussion about pedophile demographics. Directly PG-related, no. Relevant to the greater discussion, yes.

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[–] think- 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I would encourage - and maybe v/pizzagate is not the forum - any topics dedicated to survivors' stories, if properly submitted. I believe there are a lot of Survivors watching and reading, and believe their stories provide clues, as well as helkp researchers gain a better understanding of the topic. Their story must be heard.

I agree with you, Blacksmith. But I also think that it is difficult to include this here on the main sub. We would need to flair it 'Unverified', like the recent post about Cisco Wheeler.

The majority of people who say they are survivors are 100% legit. Sadly, there are a few people who copy stories of genuine survivors, or even invent stories. As I said, a tiny minority compared to the overwhelming amount of true survivor stories.

What can we do? Refer to v/pizzagatewhatever? Or create a new sister sub?

@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @ben_matlock @Honeybee_ @Crensch

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[–] Crensch 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The majority of people who say they are survivors are 100% legit.

Though I have no proof of it, I think you'll find that the majority are not. Stolen honor for military happens incredibly often, and stolen victimhood likely happens far more often than that.

The more widespread and known PG becomes, the more "survivors" will come out to tell their stories.

If you want to, I'd recommend a new sub "PGsurvivors" or something along those lines. pizzagatewhatever has a bad reputation for being that place people are told to go when their submissions break the rules.

Know that a lot of these stories will likely get picked apart here - inconsistencies pointed out.

Just some food for thought.

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[–] GreenDell144 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I would agree with @think- here. Its hard to see anyone making up a story like this, and then subject themselves to to the intense scrutiny and ridicule.

There is no one thati could imagine willing to throw their lives away and flush their credibility on behalf of a lucifeuan cabal of pedophiles.

I still advocate for caution and discernment. There is plenty of untruth and disinfo in our path. I feel that the websites and reports of Kevin Annett fall into this category (please comment if you have reason to think otherwise, so we can get to the bottom of that guy).

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[–] kevdude [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

By "meta" we mean nonresearch posts, posts attacking users/mods, general musings, etc. These need to be shut off, otherwise it is an end around the other rules and a free pass to forum slide.

a discussion about pedophile demographics. Directly PG-related, no. Relevant to the greater discussion, yes.

With a couple of example sources and some explanation the link can be made to the PG definition and the post will meet the rules.

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[–] Vindicator 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Kev, can you edit this more detailed "meta" definition into the body of this thread for future reference?

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[–] Blacksmith21 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Thank you for refining the definition.

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[–] kevdude [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

@victorsteinerdavion

It took a little longer with the introduction of the 24 hour flair and waiting for the possibility of helping to pilot Putt's voting feature (never happened but hindsight is 20/20). But as I stated I am stepping off now that the rules are refined and a community-supported mod team is in place. So you won't admit you were wrong and your accusations baseless, but it doesn't change the fact that you were.

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[–] kevdude [S, M] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

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[–] kevdude [S, M] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

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[–] think- 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thank you for your help, and good luck to you too.

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[–] Vindicator 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thank you for your service, kev.

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[–] argosciv 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Oh pfft. Been through it countless times, you know what my objection is. I missed the discussion, though, so that's fine.

Never said it's not up for discussion, most just can't grasp the subtle details(some being tucked away behind obfuscation) yet try to act like they know what's going on. To say they're directly related is asinine and ignorant, hate me for pointing it out all you like.

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