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[–] 21yearsofdigging 2 points 22 points (+24|-2) ago 

So as the world can see, Pizzagate researchers are NOT all Republican supporters. No, for the most part, we just want the truth and to stop child pedophilia and ritual abuse. I personally have been holding my breath, blinding hoping Trumpo does something.

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[–] pizzaequalspedo 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago 

Establishment political class = pedo elite

The establishment political class hates Trump worse than ISIS or MS-13, so that signals there is a chance that he is uncontrollable and willing to take some scalps.

“The enemy of my enemy is my friend” probably applies frequently with Trump.

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[–] djklbd [S] 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I just pointed out a myriad of pro establishment moves he has made. Can you explain them? Trump is just another installment of the elite, you're following "the beam"...Wake up.

We can do this shit ourselves, we don't need fucking Donald Trump of all people to help us...

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[–] mooteensy 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

...And I hope he takes those scalps. Like, Inglorious Bastards style.

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[–] 21yearsofdigging 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Nice Have to agree “The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

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[–] Psalm144-1 5 points 20 points (+25|-5) ago  (edited ago)

Many credible pizzagate researchers are troubled by Trumps "friendship" with Jefferey Epstein.

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,’’ Trump told New York Magazine back in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

^ https://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/04/jeffrey-epstein-trump-lawsuit-sex-trafficking-237983

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[–] fogdryer 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

I’m not concerned ———- It’s strategy

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[–] Blacksmith21 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

It's not strategy, it's restraint. 15 years ago Trump knew what was up, but it served no purpose to disavow, comment, or otherwise. Neutral response.

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[–] djklbd [S] 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Lol "strategy"?

He admitted to being friends with him and flying on his plane. Epsteins Brother testified about this in court.

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[–] djklbd [S] 6 points 0 points (+6|-6) ago 

I should have also mentioned this in my OP.

Doesn't trump have several rape allegations against him?

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[–] Hortance 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

He had 16 or 17 accusers of various types a few weeks before the election, They evaporated shortly after.

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[–] Oh_Well_ian 6 points -3 points (+3|-6) ago 

This quote has become worthless and appears to be the only shit you can come up with between Trump and Epstein.

This is not reasoned skepticism, it's claptrap retarded blather.

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[–] Psalm144-1 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

I am just making a simple observation. In full objective investigative findings, here's a video of Trump on the 2016 campaing trail speaking about Epstien and the Clintons unusual relationship... we could look at this as evidence to defend Trumps position relating to Pizzagate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vh0AklSXkU

Then again we can also look at these pieces of evidence which, in my opinion, are not favorable to Trump as it relates to Pizzagate...

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/portrait-of-american-financier-jeffrey-epstein-and-real-news-photo/681946576?esource=SEO_GIS_CDN_Redirect

https://i.redd.it/qgv19nbo994z.jpg

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1508/15/1508151232490.gif

I am just trying to remain objective and unbiased in this investigation. This is quite literally THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE OF OUR LIFETIME and i don't think it does us any good to have any level of blind trust in any political figures or political party allegiances. At the moment I still tend to trust Trump is good, but if things dont start to look up in the very near future my trust in him will fade rapidly...

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[–] Splinterinyourmind 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

I think the reason people want to trust him is hope, and the fact that his administration is pretty much the only party that could feasibly be working to solve this problem. I don't necessarily trust him, but I certainly hope the people who do are right.

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[–] djklbd [S] 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

I think the reason people want to trust him is hope, and the fact that his administration is pretty much the only party that could feasibly be working to solve this problem.

See, I never got drawn into this false hope idea, hoping he's working for us. I guess I just have way too much skepticism of the political system and I knew they would get someone who works for TPTB on their behalf in the white house. They always do.

HOWEVER, that doesn't mean all hope is lost. I truly believe a massive awakening is underway and will hit it's peak during the end of Trump's first term. We just need to keep waking people up, take things to the next level trying to reach the masses. I'm very optimistic.

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[–] Splinterinyourmind 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago  (edited ago)

And there's also the Q posts. The poster has been verified as in the administration in at least a couple of the posts. And the information corroborates directly with the past, present, and future. Idk, I think there is reason to hope.

edit: even if trump is no good, its pretty clear his administration is at odds with the powers that be.

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[–] ESOTERICshade 4 points 9 points (+13|-4) ago  (edited ago)

Good luck but the Hopium smoking is strong on this one. Good luck getting answers to your questions. The Trump administration is also pondering giving Jerusalem to Israel. If that is not a Zionist move then tell me what is? Just fuck the Palestenians huh?


If people would stop being lured into cheering for their favorite party IN A ONE PARTY SYSTEM and continue to focus on pedophilia instead of getting caught up in politics pizzagate might survive to be here another year.


If people keep getting lured into the Zionist trap of cheering for Zionist politics pizzagate will die from being diluted with delusions of progress that is not happening.


Pizzagate became strong because we trusted neither party and told them both to go fuck themselves and that we did not trust either of them. I like Trump better than Hillary but I know that the Republican party did not suddenly flip overnight to anti-pedo because it is still full of the same pedophiles.


What we see happening is Trump's ego giving the Clinton/Obama regime a bitch slap for being such nasty little fucks and showing them who is the new boss.


Some people are not noticing that Pizzagate is morphing into the theatrics of Russiagate. The way we can see this is that Republicans associated with the pedophile network are not suffering the same unfortunate political fates as Democrats.


The Republican vs Democrat turfwar is not about taking out a pedophilia blackmail ring, it is about pigs jockeying for better positions at the taxpayer money trough. Pedophilia has yet to enter the equation because "The Storm" is not about taking out the pedophile blackmail ring. Its about Russiagate, Obamagate, etc....


Its dragging Pizzagate into the swamp and diluting our message of pedophiles.


Pedophiles, Republican and Democrat alike, are rejoicing. Suddenly pedophilia is only a Democrat problem, and no Democrats are going to jail for pedophilia. The subject of pedophilia will slowly slide off the map in this forum if people keep posting all these D.C. political turf war threads.


Until the most famous and powerful people in the world, politicians and billionaires, are publicly outed for pedophilia, all else is noise. They are still protecting themselves.

Its not lost on me that Republicans directly involved in Pizzagate are not suffering the same fate as democrats. The reason for that is obvious, its a turf war between two factions of the D.C. swamp.


I wish people would notice. If this keeps up EVERYTHING that happens in D.C. will be pizzagate related and this forum will look the front page of a political news site.

Just because some people have taken the bait that this political battle between the Republicans and the Democrats is all about pizzagate does not make it true.


I wish it was true but it isn't. We need to stay pedo focused on Republicans and Democrats alike.


Simply cheering for the demise of the Democrats does not accomplish our mission because the Republicans are neck deep in this problem too.

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[–] Bolux 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Well said. There are a lot of smart people on the internet fighting the good fight but don't underestimate the opposition they hire the best ( and morally corrupt) minds in the country which makes them really dangerous.

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[–] djklbd [S] 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

You nailed it.

I think the social engineers are trying to "merge" the conspiracy culture with right leaning conservative politics and "suck" us into the political spectrum.

We have a non partisan appeal that we need to maintain. Trump has done nothing for us to give him the benefit of the doubt, and either have any of these phony larpers like Q. They're taking us for a ride..

We don't need an insider in politics to take down the cabal. We just need to wake enough people up, and we can take them down ourselves.

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[–] Lovethelight 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

FWIW, Q says that many paedophiles are being quietly taken from power , many simply agreeing not to run for reelection...that said, no idea how these numbers (of dropouts) compare to the normal numbers.... http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/republicans-not-running-for-re-election-in-2018/article/2634190

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[–] ESOTERICshade 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

FWIW, Q says that many paedophiles are being quietly taken from power , many simply agreeing not to run for reelection.

Thanx for the info. I have seen that theory too. I have mixed feelings about letting pedophiles walk silently into the night unscathed. That says to me that Trump is more interested in getting rid of political enemies than he is purging our country of pedophiles. Getting rid of pedophiles does not involve sending them away free to continue to participate in pedophile networks. It involves putting them in jail, getting info from them, and putting their accomplices in jail.

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[–] umpteenth 5 points 8 points (+13|-5) ago 

Not everyone here likes him. I sure don't. I think he is a clown and no better than any other puppet. Maybe people are hoping he will clean up the pedos, and are willing to put up with the fact he is just another globalist puppet if he would JUST DO THIS ONE RIGHT THING! I don't know...

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[–] djklbd [S] 6 points 2 points (+8|-6) ago 

It's like his image is based entirely on larps/anons, tweets, and little "coded" messages and "breadcrumbs" he leaves. I'm just not buying it. I don't see him as any different than any other NWO puppet. Especially with the things I listed.

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[–] fartyshorts 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

The jury is still out IMO, we'll see what happens in the next month or so. If nothing, then I'm right back to making bombs in the basement.

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[–] Psalm144-1 4 points -2 points (+2|-4) ago 

^ Agreed

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[–] Banned4Truth 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago 

I've had some questions but to answer the Saudi Arabia thing. Canada sells weapons to them too and they've used them to beat the shit out of Yemen. Media silent. Also, who benefits from these Middle east wars? Keep in mind, Saudi Arabia and Israel are allies. Which proxy factions are whose ally? Which Muslim country is being perpetrated in the news as "the enemy". What's really going on in Saudi Arabia with the arrest of billionaire princes and the purge of many others?

You would agree that the CIA is a globalist and evil intelligence agency, correct? Why Is trump saying that the CIA is "great" and "terrific"? Why did he say that he was behind them "1000%"?

Trump says everything is great and terrific. In the world of big business and government mafia you learn to not reveal your intentions. Saying "he's terrific" leaves enough plausible deniability that he could mean it when you really think he's full of shit. It's called being unpredictable. Nothing "telling" about someone who feigns diplomacy. I'm sure they all do it. But with a more elaborate vocabulary.

Why was his Bombing of Syria a strategic move for the betterment of US citizens? Was it not allowed to occur under false pretenses?

I didn't like that bombing neither. We all thought he fell for the sarin gas bs and many of his base were pissed off. But after a closer look, that "bombing" was a pre called in and nothing of value was there. There were 5 people killed however, but that bombing was severely over-hyped. The only people who liked it were Trumps enemies. John McCain was one of them.

Why did trump meet in private, and visited the home of known globalist Henry Kissinger?

Thee old adage. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Meeting with Kissinger is just keeping up with the status quo. What's he supposed to do? Announce to the world Kissinger admits to world global domination, is a master of war and genocide and should be tried for crimes against humanity? Then turf him out of the white house? MSM would love that! Could you imagine the spinning going on? They might even call Trump anti-Semitic. Oh wait...

Why is he pushing the fake terrorism boogey man to accelerate more illegal war?

What's so "fake:" about it? Maybe that purge in Saudi Arabia has something to do with radical sunni Islamic terrorism. It's certainly is not Shiite terrorism. Someone is funding Mosques like crazy to incite the youth and someone has opened the migration flood gates into Europe and convinced white people that their culture is meaningless and deserves more "diversity". Sounds like a concerted effort. Think Israel and Saudi Arabia again.

The Rothschild thing? There could be something to that, you're not the only one suspicious. But how did Trump get elected? Seriously, Clinton had the deck stacked so high no wonder she's delusional and jealous as fuck. She didn't even have a concession speech prepared. So, if the elite made Trump their puppet, why didn't they let Hillary at least know? They didn't even let the MSM in on it and they certainly didn't funnel so much money from foreign investors like Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal gave to Hillary. This also means, no Russian collusion. Not only did the elite back stab and double-cross it's own minions like Soros, it managed to rig the voting machines easier to help Trump win than it could have to help Hillary win. Imagine that! All along they could have just did what they did to get Trump elected but for Hillary! Why?

No, this is what happened. The American people decided to blow up the entire fucking system rather than have that cunt at the helm. So they elected Trump and he's blowing up the system. You can't claim Trump is for the establishment when the establishment wishes they could just jfk him on the spot. These are different times. Maybe go read the 48 laws of power or even a cursory glance online and maybe you'll understand why Trump was elected.

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[–] ESOTERICshade 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

What's so "fake:" about it? Maybe that purge in Saudi Arabia has something to do with radical sunni Islamic terrorism. It's certainly is not Shiite terrorism.

My guess is a 97 billion dollar budget deficit. A 2 Trillion dollar family oil company named Aramco that is getting ready to go to the stock market and make many people 100 billionaires in the process.

Not to mention that there is a scuffle over which branch of the Saud family gets to become the new King.

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[–] EvaEverywhere 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

"Pizzagators" = Trump supporter

is a fallacy that is included in most of the reporting against pizzagate revelations... It is also part of all the articles written by people who have felt targetted by pizzagate investigators. I am not a Trump supporter. I do not trust Trump. I can believe that the military (JSOC) is organizing a cleanup of the Swamp but I do not believe Trump has enough brain cells left to do anything but go along.

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[–] derram 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

https://archive.fo/XXHy3 :

Meet Wilbur Ross, who once bailed out Trump in Atlantic City and is now his pick for Commerce secretary - LA Times

https://archive.fo/cEW3f :

Donald Trump to meet with Henry Kissinger, GOP’s foreign-policy eminence - The Washington Post

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=aWejiXvd-P8 | https://hooktube.com/embed/aWejiXvd-P8 :

Donald Trump on ISIS - "I would bomb the SHIT out of 'em!" - YouTube

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=T4Ej4wXR7cM | https://hooktube.com/embed/T4Ej4wXR7cM :

'I am with you 1,000 percent' Trump to CIA. - YouTube

https://archive.fo/YUS1E :

Taxpayers pick up the tab for Trump’s pricey golf excursions - LA Times

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[–] fogdryer 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Ross did bail him out. Trump repaid Ross

I think maybe it’s a political favor or strategy

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