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[–] cthulian_axioms 1 point 38 points (+39|-1) ago 

I was trying to explain to folks a year ago that Bernie was forced to bend the knee in order to remain unframed for child molestation or possession of child pornography. I was called all sorts of nasty names and generally ignored; this despite the fact that CTR shills got Bernie-supporters' Facebook pages deleted by literally spamming them with CP. Where would they have gotten the material from? Why did no one get in trouble for it?

Then the whole Pizzagate thing broke shortly after Bernie bent the knee, which solidifies my point even more.

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[–] quantokitty [S] 1 point 10 points (+11|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Know that major pushback signals you're right. I learned that the hard way. Silly me for thinking that when I posted something and got called horrendous names that the post was tantamount to a "shit post". Slowly, the lightbulb went on when I saw really great posters being attacked with the same tactics.

While it's conjecture as to what the blackmail could be, yours is the logical conclusion. If not, it had to be pretty big stuff for a viable candidate to agree to the farce. Could be he was profiting from sordid criminal activities. Again, speculation. There is no proof except for this. And, yes, the FB postings are telling. It's all evidence and you wonder when the actual charges will be filed.

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[–] fogdryer ago 

or not........ :(

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[–] cthulian_axioms ago 

profiting from sordid criminal activities

As much as I am a rabid Bernie supporter, I will admit that the matter of his wife Jane running Burlington College into the ground and leaving with a gold-plated parachute is suspicious as fuck. You can smell the stink of it from atop Mount Mansfield with the right wind conditions.

While that kind of scandal would mar Bernie's squeaky-clean reputation, financial misdealings can often be explained away fairly easily. "The College's investment portfolio underperformed; expected donations did not materialize; mistakes were made; I am giving back my severance package." There you go.

Note that this wouldn't excuse Jane and Bernie in the moral sense, but in the legal sense, I don't think they'd really get nailed for it.

Nah. It had to have been CP. David Brock is sitting on a mountain of it.

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[–] Votescam 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

quant --

You're posting "conjecture" over and again .... and you acknowledge that it is "speculation" over and over again.

And, by your own words you make clear that there is NO proof for any of this.

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[–] River_Otter 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Same!

No one wants to hear this, even now.

The emails made it very clear that Bernie was being blackmailed. Some may argue that it had to deal with the loan deal under investigation now, but I highly doubt it, as he seems to be shrugging the whole thing off. It must be much, much worse, to make him bow out, as he had a better shot at the seat than Killary.

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[–] Votescam 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

Baloney --

There is no evidence that Bernie was being blackmailed.

There seems to be some evidence in "BRUISING" that Bernie was pushed around by people acting in the interests of Hillary and DNC.

And Hillary made sure that the DNC did not give Bernie the nomination -- that much is clear.

But your eagerness to try to hang something on Bernie is noted.

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[–] KILLtheRATS 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

The oldcuck fucks and kills kids

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[–] fogdryer ago 

you see, that's exactly what I read but who knows......what a shame what killbot did not that I wanted bernie

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[–] WhyNoDonuts 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Any notion of sanders Bering blackmailed with PG stuff is entirely conjured by the "everything relates to pizza gang." there is simply no proof whatsoever involving him in that although he obviously bowed to their authority in september and october. they simply could have threatened his family. These people are killers as well as rapists. Same for Julian. He mentioned putting his family through difficulty right after his november disappearance.

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[–] quantokitty [S] 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Any notion of sanders Bering blackmailed with PG stuff is entirely conjured by the "everything relates to pizza gang."

Yes and no. Even if you aren't part of the "everything relates to pizza gang", he took orders from the "pizza gang" or my preferred term "The Cannibal Elite".

there is simply no proof whatsoever involving him in that although he obviously bowed to their authority in september and october. they simply could have threatened his family.

True. There is no proof and the assertion is speculative. But again, you yourself say he genuflected to The Pizzagate Elite. And it was way earlier than September and October. The date of the email is:

May 26, 2015 at 9:22:07 AM

That means that whatever "agreement" Sanders had with The Cannibal Elite was previous to May 2015. And look at what he's being called on the carpet for: he criticize HRC! Political opponents are supposed to do that! It's what campaigns are all about, so this "agreement" was restrictive. Again, not conjecture. Truth.

The "threatening his family" excuse is getting tired. Plus, it is entirely speculative, something you're complaining about. If you're dealing with factual evidence, there is no factual evidence his family was threatened. Moreover, the conditions that Sanders were brought in on were termed "agreement". So he formed an agreement with people that you describe as "killers and rapists." What's the saying? Birds of a feather?

The problem here is that you're negating speculation on what this "leverage" by you yourself speculating. And since this cabal is speculated to be in the human trafficking business, then it's not unfair to speculate that the people they had dealings with were like-minded and also involved ... to some eoxtent. Someone could have been paid money to look the other way. Is that the same as being a pedo? Not to me. I wouldn't give them high marks for morality, but it's not as depraved as serving kids up on platters.

I tend to think the leverage HUGE. It don't believe it was a threat against his family because if it was then why would he be surprised by them calling him on breaking this agreement? Remember it's over a full year later July 29, 2016, that he appears with the facial bruising.

http://theconspiracyblog.com/conspiracies/current-politics/bernie-sanders/1162-was-bernie-sanders-roughed-up-by-clintons-goons-at-the-dnc

So if we're going to stick with facts, those are the facts. The in May of 2015, he has an agreement, and is being controlled by "leverage" that you say is a threat to his family. And yet, he overrides a threat to his family by killers and rapists, and has to be roughed up a full year later?

Makes no sense when we rely on facts and reason.

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[–] Votescam 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

quant --

What's really getting tired is your attempt to hang something on Bernie Sanders.

1 ... There is NO evidence for any of this ....

Yes and no. Even if you aren't part of the "everything relates to pizza gang", he took orders from the "pizza gang" or my preferred term "The Cannibal Elite".>

And #2 .... YOU admit there is NO evidence for any of it ....

True. There is no proof and the assertion is speculative<

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[–] RoBatten 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I've read that they threatened him with losing all of his committee spots.

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[–] Tallest_Skil 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

You can't threaten a jew's family. You can, however, hire a jew to be a patsy to try to get your shabbos into the White House.

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[–] srayzie 3 points 11 points (+14|-3) ago 

I'm surprised that there are so many supporters here that support Bernie Sanders, considering the fact that we are against the torture of children. This isn't about politics. This is about children. Bernie Sanders supports partial birth abortion.

How can anyone be ok with partial birth abortion? For those of you who do not know what that is, I am providing a description. This procedure is done when a fetus is 5 months along all the way up until 9 months along. A baby that would be viable outside of the womb is murdered. There is no other way to describe it.

I'm sure there will be a lot of people that disagree with me. I already know that Hillary was for the same thing. But, this discussion is about Bernie Sanders. I could never support somebody that is ok with this procedure. If a baby is viable outside of the womb, then the woman's health doesn't even play a part because either way, the baby is delivered. A baby that is stabbed in the back of the neck and has their spinal cord cut sounds like pure torture to me. Especially as the baby gets closer to maturity.

Description of Partial Birth Abortion

Involves administration of medications to cause the cervix to dilate.

Next, the physician rotates the fetus to a footling breech position. The body of the fetus is then drawn out of the uterus feet first, until only the head remains inside the uterus.

The physician then uses an instrument to puncture the base of the skull, which collapses the fetalhead.

Typically, the contents of the fetal head are then partially suctioned out, which results in the death of the fetus and reduces the size of the fetal head enough to allow it to pass through the cervix.

The dead but otherwise intact fetus is then removed from the woman's body.

Bernie Sanders on Abortion

  • Voted NO on restricting UN funding for population control policies. (Mar 2009)
  • Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
  • Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
  • Voted NO on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions. (Oct 2007)
  • Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
  • Voted YES on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
  • Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
  • Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)
  • Voted NO on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother’s life. (Oct 2003)
  • Voted YES on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
  • Voted NO on funding for health providers who don't provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)
  • Voted NO on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)
  • Voted NO on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)
  • Voted NO on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)
  • Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)
  • Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
  • Emergency contraception for rape victims at all hospitals. (Sep 2006)
  • Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance. (Dec 2006)

Abortion in all nine months of pregnancy

Bernie Sanders has a 100% pro-abortion voting record, and doesn’t support ANY restrictions on abortion. In his own words, he thinks we need to expand abortion access:

"We are not going back to the days when women had to risk their lives to end an unwanted pregnancy. The decision about abortion must remain a decision for the woman and her doctor to make, not the government."

Supporting and expanding Planned Parenthood

Sanders leaves no question on his view of Planned Parenthood. On his own campaign website he says:

"We are not going to allow the extreme right-wing to defund Planned Parenthood, we are going to expand it."

Letting babies suffer during and after abortion

Both candidates voted against the Partial Birth Abortion Ban, which means they support the right to kill a baby who has emerged almost completely from the birth canal. National Right to Life notes:

The bill banned a gruesome abortion procedure, used in the fifth month and later, in which an abortionist delivers a living baby, except for her head, then punctures the base of the skull and suctions out her brain, after which the now-dead baby is removed from her mother.

Both candidates voted against the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, which states:

Whoever engages in conduct that violates any of the provisions of law listed in subsection (b) and thereby causes the death of, or bodily injury (as defined in section 1365) to, a child, who is in utero at the time the conduct takes place, is guilty of a separate offense under this section.

With their votes, both candidates show that, they don’t believe a preborn child is worth protecting in the womb.

https://archive.is/vignd

http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Bernie_Sanders.htm

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/partial+birth+abortion

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[–] quantokitty [S] 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Hey, thanks for the info.

Upvoat for you.

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[–] srayzie 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I was just about to comment. Again!

I appreciate the fact that you can have a discussion and even disagree without going ballistic. Unlike A LOT of people. I wish more people would be ok to agree to disagree if they have different beliefs. You challenged people's comments constructively. 🤓

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[–] Votescam 4 points -1 points (+3|-4) ago  (edited ago)

sray --

I'm surprised that there is still anyone supporting the GOP and their lies, but here you are. We have two parties not only war-mongering all over the world but killing living mothers, fathers and children.

Everyone and everything on this planet is threatened by the US terrorist nation and the Congress' support for these endless and illegal wars of aggression.

"Partial Birth Abortion" is a piece of right wing propaganda to hide the reality of LATE TERM ABORTION... which saves the lives of many women who late in their WANTED pregnancies find that they will not survive if the pregnancy continues and/or that the child will not be capable of life and is effecting their health and well-being. ALSO, that if the pregnancy is not terminated by abortion that they will lose their ability to have children in the future.

These abortions are rare-- about one in every county in the US every year.

It is only the compassionless and inhumane who will push for the loss of life of the Mother and/or her future fertility.

And further you have no problem in trying to punish millions and millions of women dependent on Planned Parenthood for gynecological services and birth control, breast exams and other tests.

It is millions of pregnant women, themselves, who make the individual decision about whether or not to have an abortion. And most of those decisions are made when the pregnancy is still in the embryo stage - the first weeks of pregnancy.

This is a liberal nation which supports reproductive freedom, including abortion by simple majority. And supports PPH and the work they do and the funding of those services by our government.

Come back when your life is threatened by a pregnancy and you have other children, a husband and family to care for

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[–] srayzie 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

I figured there would be people that disagreed with me. But, no joke, I KNEW YOU WOULD. In case you don't remember me, we have gone over our views on women's rights several times. Our conversation lasted for like a week. You would come back and forth that week and our conversation went on and on.

You have some of the craziest views I've ever heard of. In MANY ways. You went on and on about how gay men are much less likely than heterosexual men to molest children. You spoke so highly of gay men but so low about heterosexual men. Then you started on the is God real debate.

I told you then and I'm telling you now, that I would NEVER kill my baby. Yes, partial birth abortion and late term abortion are basically the same. If a woman's life is in danger and she's delivering a baby that could be viable and saved outside of the womb, then the excuse of murdering your child to save her life does not apply.

There is a great solution for women who are not able to care for a child. It's called adoption. There are many great couples who would love a child and are unable to have one of their own. Despite all the sick stories of rape and torture of children here, the majority of people who adopt a child are great people.

An innocent baby did not ask to be conceived. Regardless of circumstances, that little human being has a right to live. ESPECIALLY when it's in the 3rd trimester and is viable. They can feel pain! That is torture. That is what we are here for. For these children that are abused and tortured. If a baby is at the age where it could make it outside of the womb, it doesn't matter if it hasn't yet came all the way out of the woman's body or not. It is murder. A cruel painful murder.

Would you like to be stabbed in the back of your neck and have your spinal cord cut and your brains sucked out? I mean, that is inhumane! You're lucky that you were allowed to survive. Can you even imagine seeing this little human being just thrown out like trash? After everything we've learned here, then you should also know how much satanists would love to get ahold of the babies organs. It's just the most disgusting image I can think of.

Have you ever thought deeply about how amazing it is to create life? A life with a soul? What a little miracle. So innocent that they depend on us adults to take care of them. So trusting. That's how our life cycles go and it's beautiful. We take care of the young and the old. Or at least, we should. It's really sad when a baby doesn't have that chance.

I could go on and on. We've been thru this. You say we live in a liberal country. You are on the very extreme side. I am a conservative. My opinion on God and the right to life will not change. You and I will never agree. We've established this. We've agreed to disagree. I thank you for your reply and stating your opinion. But I'm not going back and forth with you again. I am going to agree to disagree, even if you do not.

Peace

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[–] huhWHAThuh 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Are you aware of the thousands of medical doctors on record saying that abortion is never under any circumstances required or even helpful in saving a woman's life? This includes many former abortionists who could not continue to perform what they know without doubt is murder of the most innocent among us. i will provide you a link for reference, but a simple search will render millions of results saying the same thing. https://www.texasrighttolife.com/former-abortionist-abortion-is-never-necessary-to-save-a-womans-life/ edit And by the way i am not a Republican.

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[–] RweSure 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

There's no medical procedure named partial birth abortion.

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[–] srayzie 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Is late term abortion better for you? If not, then how about we just call it murder. Because that's what it is.

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[–] Tallest_Skil 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Shill for murderous kikes harder, please.

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[–] R34p_Th3_Wh0r1w1nd 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Doesn't mean the DNC didn't cheat him. They did. He may not have put up a fight over the cheating because of the blackmail. That is beside the point.

The point is the DNC cheated the American public out of a fairly elected candidate, which in the eyes of many amounts to treason.

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[–] carmencita 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

What they are also trying to imply is that he is a pedophile. That he has been brownstoned. That they got to him because they had something nefarious to blackmail him with. This is a Warlock Hunt, imo.

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[–] srayzie ago 

They can create that scenario tho

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[–] quantokitty [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The point is the DNC cheated the American public out of a fairly elected candidate, which in the eyes of many amounts to treason.

This is a fair point, but the rest is not accurate nor laying blame on his doorstep.

According to the email (and I think we should stick to the wording for the purposes of figuring out what went on), even "CRITICIZING" HRC was out of bounds and not in keeping with "the agreement". Think about it.

When did you know a political candidate to be restrained from talking ill about an opponent? Isn't that the whole point of running against someone? But even bringing up the subject of wealth was not in accordance with this mysterious "agreement" that Sanders had with the DNC.

Bernie is dirty. He was working in cahoots with HRC. I really think the power went to his head when he started seeing those numbers. Hence, the email, the physical beatdown, and the reminding him of the blackmail.

I know this disillusions many, but this is about facing truth, not continuing to idolize someone that doesn't deserve it.

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[–] neo50 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I really liked Bernie; I thought he was the most honest politician running for POTUS. The passion he had seemed genuine. But your right.....he's dirty. To me, this email confirms my suspicions after he started supporting Hillary. That was the worst betrayal he did to his supporters. Any normal person would raise hell after the farce that was our primaries, not fall in line to a criminal. He may or may not have been blackmailed, but there was definitely an agreement. He could have agreed to lose for a large sum of money. Either way, he's dirt under my feet.

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[–] Votescam 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

NOTE that it was especially in regard to the WEALTH of Hill/Bill that the objection was made.

That WEALTH raises many questions about Hill/Bill -- not about Bernie Sanders.

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[–] Tallest_Skil 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

That's sedition. Treason involves foreign parties. Yes, Israel was involved and yes, Bernie is technically a foreign combatant, so YES, this specific instance was treason, but it's sedition 9 times out of 10. Know the difference and use it correctly because people will dismiss you offhand if you don't.

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[–] RweSure 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

The point is the DNC cheated the American public out of a fairly elected candidate,

The guy who lost by 12 percentage points?

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[–] pizzaequalspedo 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yes...

I didn't see this when I posted, but that's what I believe happened......

"We know what your wife did. You bow out, and her problems all go away when Hillary wins"

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[–] carmencita 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Where was that quote taken from? I would like to see the source, since you have it in quotes. Who said that? I am interested in reading it.

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[–] Votescam 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

What we see constantly is that the push to make something of this comes from the GOP ....

Yet, the Catholic Church DENIES what the GOP is saying -- !!

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[–] quantokitty [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I believe it was more than that. It wouldn't have hurt him.

The blackmail was HUGE.

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[–] Corninmypoop 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Bernie got to play dirty old hippie politician in Vermont for years and then they called in a favor. He did what was asked and then returned to his old socialist hippie shtick, fuck him.

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[–] quantokitty [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This.

Nice summation. In a nutshell: yes.

Upvoat for you.

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[–] AngB23 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Whatever blackmail they have on Bernie, it has to be pretty big. When several joined on the DNC Lawsuit, its was probably 90% Bernie supporters, with evidence of voter fraud against Bernie and were on Twatter also talking about investigators that were murdered.

Bernie said nothing. No support, kept quiet about voter fraud and put his efforts behind HRC during the campaign. Either he's an ignorant moron or the obvious, blackmailed to remain silent and keep up the charade as a loyal little puppet.

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[–] This_Ruined_Pizza 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

He also made multiple statements denouncing the email investigation. The one thing there is literal evidence of that should have taken his opponent out of the game.

Comey stood in front of America and laid out a case against Clinton, citing felony on top of felony, then said she won't be prosecuted because she is Hillary Clinton. Why every candidate didn't make that their sole talking point, is beyond reason. It's proof to me they are all in it for the same goal. To advance the position of their handlers.... the Global Elite, who even Clinton works for.

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[–] quantokitty [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

What's the saying? The silence is deafening.

All good points. They all point to how HUGE this leverage was. It couldn't have been what his wife did. Those type of infractions, although criminal, only generate sympathy for the spouse of the accused.

And we're leaving out the elephant in the room, Seth Rich's death. Very weird that there wasn't a peep out of him. If nothing else, he's known for shooting his mouth off on subjects, but nothing. Zilch.

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[–] Tallest_Skil 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Why would he have said anything about Seth Rich? It would have taken down the DNC and destroyed the kike's most powerful party. That's against his desires.

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[–] 2impendingdoom 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

has he said why he doesn't fight for his voters? the lawsuit would be a million times more meaningful if Sanders was the plaintiff. this silence says speaks volumes.

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[–] AngB23 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

As far as I know, he has not spoken up once about the lawsuit. And unfortunately, the judge threw the lawsuit out. Had Sanders had any balls and spoke up, I bet the lawsuit may have had a different out come. Instead, he left his loyal supporters high and dry as he was driving around in his new sports car.

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[–] LightlyToasted 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Assange: "Sanders & Mook need to clarify what the 'leverage' & 'agreement' was & what Sanders did in response to the 'leverage' threat." https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/904362677912391680

As a person who agreed with Bernie's stated platform, I agree with Assange's demand for clarification. I have the same demand in question since Wikileaks drop.

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[–] quantokitty [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

A lot of us are in that camp. Just tell us what happened.

This is really unraveling.

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