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[–] quantokitty 5 points -5 points (+0|-5) ago 

@Vindicator, is what is alleged true? I understood that if the 100 Contribution Comment Points weren't reached, that you could not make a submission. Here is someone saying that the proposal wouldn't do that. So in Rule 1, would making someone attain 100 CCP prevent someone from posting a submission?

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[–] quantokitty 5 points -4 points (+1|-5) ago 

No, "WE" do not keep telling me, "YOU" keep telling me.

I'd like to hear what Vindicator has to say.

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[–] Vindicator [S, M] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

@Kevdude is correct, quantokitty. VieBleu's understanding of the 100 CCP setting was not accurate. I tried to explain that in describing each proposal. I told the community that if they wanted a sticky up discussing subverse changes, I would do it, but only if they had a good strong thread in place to demonstrate to the O's there was a community outcry for the discussion. Since turning on the 100 in-sub CCP to Downvoat setting was the topic discussed (though very inaccurately) in VieBleu's thread, I felt honor-bound to include it here -- with the appropriate factual information about what it would and wouldn't do.

Turning on 100 in-sub CCP To Downvoat has no effect on the ability of shills to post crap whatsoever. It does dramatically hinder v/pizzagate members' account strength and ability to get visibility on v/all/NEW.

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[–] quantokitty 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Great! I get roped into another cabal! But this:

Turning on 100 in-sub CCP To Downvoat has no effect on the ability of shills to post crap whatsoever. It does dramatically hinder v/pizzagate members' account strength and ability to get visibility on v/all/NEW.

So it would hinder NEW but not HOT? HOT is the page we're bitching and moaning about since that's the main one that pops up. If shit posts appear on NEW and not HOT, I wouldn't care. That in itself would be a victory. If it hinders shill posts in NEW, it wouldn't in HOT? Or it would in HOT?

I also don't understand why the moderator can't just see the CCP count and manually delete a post that does not meet the requirement. The stats are visible. But since you know all, what do you suggest? What would keep things honest? The only thing I've seen is an Arpaio hit piece be kept out of the HOT listings by being downvoated. It seems the forum is heavily weighted to leave it up to the downvoats of the community as the arbiter or what buoys a submission to the top. Thereotically, it's a noble way of handling things, but not when you have shill scum taking advantage of the system.

There has to be way to do this. Other forums have a minimum comment requirement, and it's not unusual. But if this is an impossibility then what is possible? I've asked @kevdude fifty times for an alternative plan to no avail. If s/he understands the system that brilliantly, there isn't a workaround? I find this difficult to believe.

If the coding sucks that badly, what about adding another stat for just this subverse? Pizzagate Contribution Points? I suppose that's impossible, too?