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[–] ESOTERICshade 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

her story, which clearly should be taken with a big grain of salt,

I don't understand why you added this though. I disagree strongly.

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[–] Surviveandheal15 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

ESOTERICshade, maybe my choice of words wasn't the best, but I was just trying to make the point that Brice Taylor, like Cathy O'Brien and many other ritual abuse survivors, claim to have fully integrated their multiple personalities back into one coherent self, but how can anyone verify that if you haven't spent extensive time with them personally or talked to a knowledgable therapist who has? I am not trying to cast doubt on any particular thing Brice Taylor has said, but my point is that I think we need to act like good detectives when we look at the testimony of ritual abuse survivors. Do other sources of information back up or substantiate what the survivor says? Especially when it comes to specifics, like the locations, times, and perpetuators of abuse? The point isn't to try to put survivors through any kind of personal interrogation, that obviously is the last thing they need, but if this information is going to have broader credibility, its gotta be substantiated from multiple sources, that's all I am trying to say.

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[–] ESOTERICshade 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You people trashing Cathy Obrien should be ashamed of yourself but you are not. Survival instinct kicking in I suppose. Must suck...

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[–] SavedbyJCfromRSA_MK 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Agreed !

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[–] SavedbyJCfromRSA_MK 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I want to add that when anyone puts lots of verbiage into long paragraphs, I get suspicious. This is MK tactics. Intense paragraph lengths and on and on in arguement. Non the less, it mostly seems a good discussion.

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[–] Surviveandheal15 [S] 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I honestly really resent being accused of "mk tactics," thats insulting. I have been thinking about posting her for a while, I had some information I though people could find helpful, more than just quick links to articles. If you want to accuse me of something like that, please bring up something more substantial then my paragraph lengths, thanks.

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[–] SavedbyJCfromRSA_MK 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'm sorry for posting in that way. Felt bad about it and should have deleted it last night.

All of us are MK'd these days, it's in the air we breath. What was a technique used on individuals has been ramped up to the masses.

Thanks for putting Dr Ross in this documentation. His work is at a level respected by academics, He put all this on the table with irrefutable evidence. I've not powered through the entire CIA Doctors, it's huge and painful to read.

Keep trying please but be cautious of hypnosis. Lot's of people want to play around with it without skill. That's how we all got into this mess. It's real and it works everyday on TV.

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[–] notdivided 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'd be very wary of any of this advice. It doesn't sound like OP has any personal experience. If you are a survivor there is a comprehensive network that is setup to funnel you back to your abusers so you can be reprogrammed without incident. You don't want that to happen.

OP isn't even a longstanding/trusted contributor...how long have you been thinking about this speaking as if you have been posting more than one singular day!

Several people expressed these concerns in "part 1."

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[–] 21yearsofdigging 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Russ Dizdar does amazing work on behalf of victims

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[–] ESOTERICshade 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I understood that. I figured that is exactly what it was. I just think that part might need a little editing. :)

Thank you presenting the material. The speech Dr. Hammond gave from the first thread was great.

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[–] ESOTERICshade 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Very valuable material. The audio speech from the first thread was very good.

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[–] Da-Cat 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Google Colin Ross MD + malpractice, granted Satanist types use this the lawsuits appear valid. Re Cathy O'Brien she's accused along with Mark Phillips of brainwashing a teenage girl both are sleeping with. https://millerfamilyblogging.wordpress.com/

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[–] Da-Cat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'm just stating factual information that's easy to find so the downvoters might state what issue they have. Other SRA/MPD/DID researchers like Fritz Springmeier have also been shown to be flaky & likely dramatizing a bit of their material, a common theme in the genre such as David Icke or Alex Jones, who might use 90% true info with 10% bunk such as "Queen Elizabeth/Reptilian shapeshifter" which then pushes less gullible types completely out of conspiracy theory. Many use the genre like they are rock stars merely out for fame & income selling books & giving seminars. There are highly respected researchers, writers & therapists though & there's a qualitative difference in their work, paper trails & footnotes among other evidence.

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[–] SavedbyJCfromRSA_MK 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This is a great example of MK Gobble-de-Gook.