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[–] darkknight111 0 points 8 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago
The cover up of crimes by the elite is something that can be used as an argument for direct relevance to pizzagate.
Regardless, this thread is important on the grounds of being a jumping point for finding further leads.
Everyone, get in here!
[–] 2impendingdoom 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
makes sense, they all had fake names, Chelsea Clinton was Debbie Reynolds, and wasn't Mills (not sure) Lisa Jackson?
[–] kestrel9 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
I've noticed a trend during PG research or especially research into orgs like BAMN, Antifa members..etc. Where you search the name and it's also the name of a lesser heard of but famous person (so finding results is harder to wade through), whether it's the name of an actor or a famous communist (that was part of the guccifer 2.0 story I believe). I had started a post on it once right after I started noticing, 3 or 4 names, but I lost the post and forgot about it. Since then I still have it happen, probably at least 6 or 7 names altogether which seems like more than just coincidence. Unfortunately I didn't save them in a list to keep track.
I know that commie Yvette Felarca of BAMN took young teens over state lines to separate them from their families and gave them aliases. I wonder if that's a tactic used by SOROS groups for protesters who give media interviews (reading names of people interviewed at some of these violent protests is where I started noticing it). Given how Obama and Deep State love their crisis actors, it's not surprising if politicians adopt celebrity alias's
[–] SoSpricyHotDog [S] 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Don't forget Mr. Obama's alias: https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/wikileaks-podesta-dump-obama-secret-email-address/
Here's Chelsea: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/wikileaks-67-emails-hillary-chelsea-clinton-fake-name-diane-reynolds-foreign-police-mtgs/
Kurt Eichenwald = Andrew McDonald (CP link directly, but alias was not used for government purposes): http://gizmodo.com/wikileaks-pettiness-reveals-what-might-be-the-secret-am-1797215657
Dammit... I can't remember the others. There was at least 2 or 3 other examples of aliases used by members of the previous administration!
Ahhh, right, Mr. Holder: https://kaiserartechinvestigation.wordpress.com/2016/02/26/how-eric-holder-hid-his-dirty-cover-up-deeds-for-obama-and-protected-elon-musk-from-arrest/
Lisa Jackson of the EPA: "Another federal agency that has come under scrutiny for its email practices is the Environmental Protection Agency, where it was revealed in 2012 that then-Administrator Lisa Jackson was using the alias "Richard Windsor" in emails with government officials." http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/03/03/390429337/hillary-clinton-s-use-of-personal-email-account-at-state-draws-scrutiny
I'm certain there are more...
[–] 2impendingdoom 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
thanks for finding the links!!
[–] carmencita 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
No, Lisa Jackson was head of the EPA under Obama. She also had an alias but I forget what it is. I have discovered in the emails that she is traveling around the country evidently pushing and spreading their big program COPS Community Oriented Policing Services. Now some may not believe the @Wisconsin-_Is_Corrupt reporting about Racine, but one thing he says the are pushing is Community Policing. So there is something to their Plan. What the Policing Program is to accomplish, I am sure will not be good for Communities. In the email she states she has visited many states, but Phoenix seems to be Excelling in this Program and that there will be a Special Mental Health Aspect as to how Police are taught to respond. WHAT? I am getting terrified of what this may imply and what it may entail for us and those with Mental Health problems. Is this another way for Police to take these people into their custody? What will happen to them. Sorry, this really set me off and now I am in fear of this COPS Program.
[–] SecondAmendment 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
@2ImpendingDoom, good reminder, mate. You just reminded me that Obama's BFF, the former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick, used a fake name while in office. Why is that significant? Because Governor Patrick's real name is currently being tossed around for the 2020 Presidential race. Governor Patrick was known as SALLY REYNOLDS, which is very weird. He used an email address of SALLY.REYNOLDS@STATE.MA.US to circumvent the open records laws (or whatever they're called) so that a search of Deval Patrick emails would OMIT all emails created by Sally Reynolds.
WTF, right? Governor Patrick admitted this while testifying in open court back in 2011 but the mainstream media didn't look into it much, other than in a few stories like the following: http://archive.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2011/05/28/governor_patrick_keeps_his_cool_during_a_strange_historic_day_on_stand/
Perhaps on a side note the awesome 4channers might want to look into this. When I think of "Massachusetts" I think of "Martha's Vineyard" and then, invariably, I think of that abandoned handkerchief and the "pizza-related map."
Was the governor involved in any of this? I do not know. But I do know that a Governor with nothing to hide would not create a new identity to conceal his activities. . . .
[–] 2impendingdoom 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Thanks, thats an fantastic contribution, I added a quick list to the post (because I have a terrible memory) but I agree, the channers need to get this.
[–] 2impendingdoom 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
SSHD has dug up a bunch of links, I'm kind of just consolidating into one comment.
[–] carmencita ago
I wonder if there are emails from Sally (Duval) to Barry (Barack) Would be very interesting, imo.
[–] 2impendingdoom 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago (edited ago)
bobama@ameritech.net = Barack Obama (I think that he also went by Barry) There was that email that Huma wanted to keep a copy, he had an alias
Loretta Lynch = Elizabeth (Lizzie) Carlisle
Lew Alcindor = Eric Holder
Diane Reynolds = Chelsea Clinton
Kurt Eichenwald = Andrew McDonald
Lisa Jackson = Richard Windsor
Duval Patrick = Sally Reynolds
[–] Jem777 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
I believe Peter Kadzik was just reassigned the opening of the new Clinton email investigatiin. Sickening. This is the guy all over HRC emails and Podesta's who thanks him for "keeping me out of jail"
Next he leaked the HRC investigation to her the entire time.
[–] 2impendingdoom ago
Thats been brought up but I haven't been able to find any confirmation of that appointment from any outside sources.
[–] Truthplease5 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
http://pizzagate.wiki/Peter_Kadzik
http://pizzagate.wiki/Loretta_E._Lynch
[–] SoSpricyHotDog [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Duuuude... WTF just happened. I saw your post pop up in my notifications, and it immediately had 3 downvoats against it. Now? None.
[–] UglyTruth 1 point 3 points 4 points (+4|-1) ago
Could be a software glitch, voat has been undergoing work to make it open source friendly.
[–] Truthplease5 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
what is a link to the Judicial Watch emails compared to the WikiLeak emails? also FOIA - any others?
[–] SoSpricyHotDog [S] 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
The link right now is a hypothetical one... essentially, if this alias was used specifically to obtain/approve talking points re: the meeting w/ Clinton on the tarmac, that immediately indicates she is attempting to hide her identity on the off chance that these emails were ever leaked.
Low and behold, that off chance occurred.
Since JW is pursuing a non-redacted version of these "talking points", it may shed light on a deeper investigation to dive into what she discussed with WJC. If that happens to involve Comey and the depressing result of the HRC email "investigation", we've got a watertight case of obstruction.
Kadzik is significant because he's now linked to Lynch's possible alias within the JW emails and he has already been outed as a person of interest who leaked warnings to HRC re: her own email scandal in advance. Leading to the all hands on deck "oh shit let's delete everything" moment. Which involves Podesta running defense.
So, not directly Pedogate related. But, indirectly this could result in some more skeletons falling out of their collective closet. Leading to more... leads.
[–] Jem777 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Kadzik ok just got assigned to HRC new email case that was opened......no corruption there right?
[–] RedGreenAlliance 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Please have a look at this post: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2041343
I've copied the content here for visibility:
Significance to Pizzagate as explained in this linked post: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2041059
ELIZABETH CARLILE = LIZZIE CARLISLE - Loretta's maternal grandmother's birth name (twice married; later Lizzie Bell then finally Lizzie Harris)
LORETTA LYNCH born 1959, Greensboro NC - was using a fake name to conduct illicit business while Attorney General. MULTIPLE crimes here even before you look at what she was DOING. Just using state apparatus with fake names and illegal accounts is imprisonable, and certainly she should be disbarred.
Parents
Maternal Grandparents
Much sleuthing by myself and Redditer https://www.reddit.com/user/queenicarius have discovered the links. Confusion lies in Ancestry.com's common misinterpretation of name spellings from handwritten certificates and registers.
Turns out Loretta's maternal grandmother was definitely Lizzie Carlisle as evidenced by her death certificate in 1958 (year before Loretta was born). Lizzie Carlisle married Walter Bell, who died leaving her with 5 children. She remarried Loveless Harris.
Now get this - maternal grandparents marriage certificate state her maiden name as LIZZIE CARLISS BEEL (according to ancestry.com) - but this is taken from a hard copy marriage cert which looks to me like LIZZIE CARLILE BELL.
In fact CARLILE is an alternative spelling of the same root surname, others are CARLYLE, CARLISLE. Carlisle is the most common spelling of the name.
CARLISS is not common at all - not even in the top 150,000 most common US surnames. Carlile however is in the top 7,000 (source http://www.pbs.org/pov/apps/thesweetestsound/popularity-index/popindex.php?name=carlile&Submit=Submit)).
On Ancestry.com there are 5,000 records under the surname Carliss for the USA. There are 140,766 under the surname Carlile. That's 28x more
Look at the marriage cert again. It looks like Carlile or even Carlisle to me but to another person it could look like Carliss. But consider the fact Carlile is a more common surname by an order of magnitude - maybe 1 Carliss for every 28 Carlile's. So on the balance of probability the name is Carlile.
However all this is irrelevant now we've located the Death Cert of Lizzie Harris which CLEARLY shows the birth name as CARLISLE.
So What?!
The chances of this being a coincidence are astronomical. Basically, Loretta thought she was being oh-so-clever by doing business under a fake name to hide her connection. Why would anyone do this if its not something that is illegal or would damage her reputation or career in some way.
So the silly bitch uses her maternal grandmother's name - LIZZIE CARLISLE.
Even proving her abusing Government email systems with fake accounts, and conducting business without accountability and audit trails, is imprisonable. That's before you consider what she was actually up to.
We need to weaponise this and spread the word
[–] SoSpricyHotDog [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Ok, so... apparently this thread "broke" voat. I'm seeing new comments come in with a default (-1) downvoat from comments submitted by others, and when I attempt to upvoat I see a "+/-" sign, then refreshing shows a big fat "0" next to their name, but my +1 "Blue Arrow" is still lit.
I'm sure it's an unrelated bug and I'm being paranoid...
But I'm still going to lock up/load up to be sure.
Haha.
[–] Judgejewdy 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
No, that means it's being suppressed like all good posts are and have been since the beginning of pg. "making improvements" has been the excuse since November.