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[–] chris [S] ago 

You're just changing the meaning of conspiracy theory to suit your needs by removing theories with evidence, that makes no sense and that's not what the definition is. Of course conspiracy theories with no evidence usually don't turn out to be correct lol

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[–] Are_we_sure ago  (edited ago)

No. The key element is timing.

For a conspiracy theories to turn out to be true, the theory has to exist and be widely shared before the event/relevation happens. It someone came forward tomorrow with proof that John Podesta was a cannibal pedophile than pizzagate would be a conspiracy theory that was proven true. Pizzagate would have had predictive value.

Iran-Contra was not a conspiracy theory because no one was saying the NSC/CIA was selling missiles to Iran and using the money to fund the Contras in Nicaragua before it was discovered. It was a genuine conspiracy that was discovered.

I still would like to hear what conspiracy theories you think have been proven true.

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[–] chris [S] ago 

You're literally saying the same thing, that evidence has to exist for it to be a conspiracy vs no evidence for a conspiracy theory and that's simply not true, nor is that even close to how a conspiracy is defined.

Here's a definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conspiracy%20theory

whether or not there is EVIDENCE for said theory can obvious discredit or give credit to the theory itself, but that doesn't stop it from being a conspiracy theory.

You're conflating evidence with proof. There can be evidence of a conspiracy, but the conspiracy theory could still be false. A theory is a theory, in the scientific world it's a framework created using various observations. A fact is a theory proven to be true, so to call something a "conspiracy" would be inherently inferring that we know for a fact that this event happened, which would take it from theory to fact.

As far as theories that have been proven to be true, off the top of my head I would immediately think of: operation northwoods, operation mockingbird, COINTELPRO, MKUltra, mass government surveillance.

Just recently wikileaks released some data confirming that the CIA can remotely control planes, cars, etc...something that there was zero evidence for (aside from it being possible in theory)

conspiracy theories run a gamut from off-the-wall with no evidence, to no evidence but grounded in reality and/or likely, to much evidence and very likely, etc. I feel like you're just arbitrarily setting boundaries so it's mentally easier for you to lump all the bad ones into "conspiracy theory" and then writing them all off in the process.