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[–] RweSure ago (edited ago)
This is exactly the sort of dishonesty that's a Hallmark of your arguing
The fire at WTC was one of the largest office fires in the World has ever seen. I've read it was a bigger fire then the tower because fire was on at least a dozen floors. Each floor of WTC 7 was about 1.7 million square feet.
This is a Hallmark of your scientific illiteracy. You pack so much wrong in just a few sentences.
A. When I talk about thermite having a slow reaction time thats in comparison to high explosives like C4 and RDX. RDX has a detonation velocity of 8750 m/s. When RDX goes BOOM, that BOOM is a pressure wave travelling at over 5 miles per second.
B. Thermite creates no pressure waves at all. Because it releases no gas. It's not an explosive.
C. So the thermite took a couple hours to react? Holy hell how much thermite are we talking about? Were the buildings made of thermite? Was each floor stacked carpet to ceiling with thermite?
D. Are you claiming the explosions were thermite? It's not an explosive. If you are claiming the type of explosive used in demolition you can keep them quiet AND cut steel.
Also you just caught yourself here in a web of your own contradictions. If explosions were to be kept to a minimum and thermite takes hours, then then the massive destruction during the collapse was mainly due to gravity and the massive kinetic energy release by the top floors of the building falling down.
You once told me that only bombs could cause that much destruction.
[–] DarkMath ago (edited ago)
AreWeSure: "The fire at WTC was one of the largest office fires in the World."
Someone who isn't the most naive human being on planet Earth: Really? The fire at WTC 7 wasn't even strong enough to reach more than one side of the building. And to be honest it's hard to even see any flames. Not to mention based on all the smoke whatever fire is going on isn't very high temperature. Anyone who's built a campfire can tell you the hotter the fire the cleaner the smoke.
But wait, there's more. Yes there was a fire but even that fact is evidence against a fire causing the collapse. A fire limited to just on side of WTC 7 would lead to a highly unsymmetrical collapse not the perfect symmetry of the collapse that occurred. Remember?
Even NIST themselves couldn't reproduce the type of collapse we saw at WTC 7 on 9/11.
:-D
[–] RweSure ago
Why do you insist on lying? You know that image only shows the very end of the collapse and that collapse begins like 10 seconds before what you show. And that viewing the full sequence we can see that there was a highly asymmetrical internal collapse that preceded the collapse of the outer shell.
https://www.metabunk.org/files/WTC-7-Explosion.gif
WTC7 was a tube within a tube construction with lateral supports connecting the two.
We can see that roof collapses on the left side first while outer shell looks fine.
We can then see this collapse of the roof starts to move right before the whole building comes down.
Just as the full collapse begins the roof develops a kink.
Then the outer shell comes down.
This is a highly unsymmetrical progressive collapse. Starts on lower left floors on interior goes straight up to the right before the whole roof bends in a kink and the outer structure falls.
This collapse is well under way already in that deceptive gif you show.
Why do you think lying will help your argument? Is it because the truth would destroy your argument?