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[–] DarkMath ago  (edited ago)

"you always get the science of 9/11 wrong"

Wrong? Holy hand grenades. AreWeSure it's YOUR "scientific" explanation of how a minor office fire could cause WTC 7 to collapse EXACTLY like it would if brought down by a controlled demolition that's not "scientific". Remember?

"the fact that slow reaction time of thermite makes it a terrible choice for a simultaneous collapse"

Quite to the contrary the slow reaction time is essential to the entire demolition. You must remember too many explosions would give the whole thing away. Explosions had to be kept to a minimum. The very property of thermite you're talking about helps spread the "steel cutting" out over a couple of hours.

"Larry Silverstein said yada yada yada"

Sorry AreWeSure but "yada yada yada" doesn't cut it(pun intended). You actually need to explain Larry Silverstein's comments. Those two infamous gaffs are, DING DING DING, evidence of a controlled demolition. There's no way around it. You MUST address them.

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[–] RweSure ago  (edited ago)

This is exactly the sort of dishonesty that's a Hallmark of your arguing

a minor office fire could cause WTC 7

The fire at WTC was one of the largest office fires in the World has ever seen. I've read it was a bigger fire then the tower because fire was on at least a dozen floors. Each floor of WTC 7 was about 1.7 million square feet.

the slow reaction time is essential to the entire demolition. You must remember too many explosions would give the whole thing away. Explosions had to be kept to a minimum. The very property of thermite you're talking about helps spread the "steel cutting" out over a couple of hours.

This is a Hallmark of your scientific illiteracy. You pack so much wrong in just a few sentences.

A. When I talk about thermite having a slow reaction time thats in comparison to high explosives like C4 and RDX. RDX has a detonation velocity of 8750 m/s. When RDX goes BOOM, that BOOM is a pressure wave travelling at over 5 miles per second.

B. Thermite creates no pressure waves at all. Because it releases no gas. It's not an explosive.

C. So the thermite took a couple hours to react? Holy hell how much thermite are we talking about? Were the buildings made of thermite? Was each floor stacked carpet to ceiling with thermite?

D. Are you claiming the explosions were thermite? It's not an explosive. If you are claiming the type of explosive used in demolition you can keep them quiet AND cut steel.

Also you just caught yourself here in a web of your own contradictions. If explosions were to be kept to a minimum and thermite takes hours, then then the massive destruction during the collapse was mainly due to gravity and the massive kinetic energy release by the top floors of the building falling down.

You once told me that only bombs could cause that much destruction.

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[–] DarkMath ago  (edited ago)

AreWeSure: "The fire at WTC was one of the largest office fires in the World."

Someone who isn't the most naive human being on planet Earth: Really? The fire at WTC 7 wasn't even strong enough to reach more than one side of the building. And to be honest it's hard to even see any flames. Not to mention based on all the smoke whatever fire is going on isn't very high temperature. Anyone who's built a campfire can tell you the hotter the fire the cleaner the smoke.

But wait, there's more. Yes there was a fire but even that fact is evidence against a fire causing the collapse. A fire limited to just on side of WTC 7 would lead to a highly unsymmetrical collapse not the perfect symmetry of the collapse that occurred. Remember?

Even NIST themselves couldn't reproduce the type of collapse we saw at WTC 7 on 9/11.

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