Pizzagate Subverse Network
/v/AskPizzagate – Pizzagate-related questions
/v/pizzagatewhatever – anything Pizzagate-related
/v/PizzagateMemes – Pizzagate memes
/v/pizzagatemods – meta concerns and Pizzagate moderation discussion
For Newcomers
Submission Rules
See also "subverse best practices"
Policy on linking dangerous research
1: Relevance: Posts must be directly relevant to investigation of Pizzagate: the sexual/physical abuse and/or murder of children by elites, child trafficking organized by elites, and/or cover-up of these activities and/or the protection/assistance provided to the people who engage in said activities. See definition of Pizzagate and examples of relevant posts.
2: Empiricism: EACH factual claim that is not common knowledge must be sourced with a link. If you ask a question: Explain what led to your question and provide sources. If you present opinion/argument, connect your dots and provide sources for them. Avoid baseless speculation. ALL posts must include at least one link.
3: Clarity: All titles must adequately describe post content and must establish direct relevance to pizzagate. EACH link in your post must include a description of content and how the link relates to the post (except when markup is used to embed links in the specific text they support).
4: Meta submissions and general discussion submissions without sources will be removed. Please submit indirectly relevant posts to /v/pizzagatewhatever and unsourced questions to /v/AskPizzagate. Sourced activism / publicity posts and memes are allowed. Posts about the subverse itself go to /v/pizzagatemods.
5: You must label NSFW posts (“Not safe for work”; for example gore, nudity etc.) as such when submitting.
6: No Link Posts -- Only editable submissions made with the "Discuss" button are allowed. "Link" submissions have been banned by the community for the reasons described here. Link posts will be immediately removed.
Adspam, illegal content, and personal info about Voat subscribers will be removed, and the offender will be banned.
Moderator Rules and Removal Explanations
Submission Removal Log
WARNING! Due to the nature of this investigation, clicking some links could result in opening incriminating material. Always practice common sense before clicking links, and make sure you're browsing safely.
Use archive.is to archive sources.
view the rest of the comments →
[–] chris [S] 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago
See, I think there actually IS quite a bit of systematic abuse of children and pedophile rings, but I don't buy into pizzagate. If you watch the documentary on boys town (conspiracy of silence) or look into pedophilia in Hollywood, it's pretty clear it exists AT LEAST in niche and/or local groups. Not sold on the idea that there is a vast network tied into all politicians or that it's part of some underground network of mollock worshippers or whatever, though.
I think it's not rational to dismiss all conspiracy theories, especially now as quite a few have been outed in recent times, but there is definitely a fringe of conspiracy theories that are not based in facts at all.
I try to give pizzagate as much of a chance as I can, though (as evident in this post).
[–] duhiki 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Do yourself a favor and pick up a book or three. John DeCamp's Franklin Cover Up - names national-level names partaking in the sex/drug courier ring, with a focus on the torture these kids endured. Conspiracy of Silence discusses about 45% of what's in the book; they left out a bunch of stuff. Cathy O'Brien's Trance Formation America - She delves into behind the scenes of the torture/Satanism as a child who endured it; she discusses the use of dentist chairs for torture/MKUltra purposes (ala Jeffrey Epstein). Both those books lay the foundation of Pizzagate as a continuation of horrific acts against children; the precedent has been set.
Question; what's your definition of "Pizzagate" because the mainstream definition is jacked on purpose by those controlling the media to give plausible deniability and to paint it as a lunatic's wet dream. But when one actually delves into the infamous instagram account of Alefantis, it raises some serious questions about his role in DC and how he garnered enough power and influence despite being a meager pizza slinger, to be counted among the 50 most powerful people in Washington. Especially when those photos include associating infants and toddlers to sexual connotations and money.
Brownstone Operations help keep politicians in line; put in compromising positions. This came out in public during a 1997 Senate Committee regarding radiation; some of those afflicted were also tortured with the government's okay, and their testimony taken.
https://imgoat.com/uploads/4173cb38f0/29112.png
Testimony: https://steemit.com/crime/@mandireiserra/mind-control-survivors-testimony-or-mk-ultra-and-pedogate-from-1995
Also take into consideration of Marc Dutroux, Belgium's child-kidnapping/raping/porn-making douchebag of the elites (who had seven houses; maybe it's my American mentality, but multiple homes are expensive with all them taxes/upkeep, so how'd he afford them all and still have time to kidnap and rape girls? Oh wait, he was paid to kidnap and rape girls.)
It's my (unpopular) opinion that the Mollach worship/Satanism ties into the MKUltra programming; used to torment kids and fracture their psyches, used to gather incriminating evidence of the elites participating to control them else evidence gets released, and said elites/politicians become fodder for legal issues and social pariahs/losing the life that enriched them with money and perversion. Plus, with a Satanism taint, it's easier for the masses to dismiss it rather than investigate it. That happened in the 80's with the Satanism "hysteria." Again, a precedent set.
These local groups are linked via those in control. Bring kids from outside areas to be trafficked, which means that the local populace doesn't get up in arms because it's not their kids. We saw this happen with the Franklin Cover Up/White House Call Boy scandal. Those "call boys" aka trafficked children, came from Nebraska to be used by DC elites at the fucking White House. When one looks at Tom Brokaw's report, we can see the propaganda line being towed; the legal focus was on credit cards being used to buy the rape of trafficked children, instead of focusing on the trafficked kids and those pimping them, because those people are assets ... when an asset gets busted, they either do little time and get on with their lives, or they are removed from the picture.
Research the CIA's modus operandi; it's very enlightening, and explains EVERYTHING. There's a reason school education covers certain aspects of how the American government works but utterly leaves out the CIA's role in it all. That is on purpose.
This link has an interview given by a former Forbes editor, explaining Mossad and the CIA's ties and shady things done.
https://steemit.com/crime/@mandireiserra/a-nasty-little-web-starring-hillary-clinton-vince-foster-and-robert-maxwell-special-guests-justice-scalia-sid-blumenthal-and
[–] chris [S] 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago
I explained elsewhere in this thread that I'm aware of all those incidents and am a proponent that these rings exist, I referenced conspiracy of silence early on in this thread.
I'm just talking about pizzagate right now though, as I think pizzagate is being used to discredit everything you just described.
[–] Tanngrisnir 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
Stratfor admitted to using "pizza" as a codeword before. They just never admitted what it was code for.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1541689 http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor https://steemit.com/wikileaks/@rebelskum/pwning-stratfor-the-best-of-wikileaks-global-intelligence-files
[–] chris [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I'll have to brush up on those stratfor emails, ive read them before...but even so, as outlined in my OP, im not doubting the existinance of CP, cheese pizza or pizza going back to when 4chan created it. Not to mention strator is in the astroturfing business, of course someone there would be saavy enough to know the phrase CP
[–] Are_we_sure ago
Name a few that have. Conspiracies certainly exist and are uncovered, but conspiracy theories specifically refer to commonly held beliefs that a conspiracy took place for which there is no evidence. The US mob worked with the Sicilian mafia to sell heroin out certain pizzerias was a conspiracy. And it wasn't predicted before hand. Comet Ping Pong is one of a series of Satanic pizzerias dealing in child-sex-trafficking and cannibalism throughout the US, including Brooklyn, Portland, San Francisco, Philadelphia and Ausian is a conspiracy theory.
That is conspiracy theories are supposed to be predictive. They are supposed to predict something that is not yet known. Conspiracy theories often popup AFTER an event to explain why something big happened. 9/11 conspiracies didn't take off when we invaded Afghanistan. They took off years later after we invaded Iraq when the politics made it seem more plausible. Though if 9/11 was an inside job done to justify the invasion of Iraq, why not make it look like Iraqis did it in the first place?
No Conspiracy theory has ever been proven correct.
[–] chris [S] ago
You're just changing the meaning of conspiracy theory to suit your needs by removing theories with evidence, that makes no sense and that's not what the definition is. Of course conspiracy theories with no evidence usually don't turn out to be correct lol
[–] DarkMath ago (edited ago)
"and most have little to no evidence supporting those theories."
ROFLMAO. AreWeSure stop talking shit. There's a fuck ton of evidence 9/11 was an inside job.You refuse to acknowledge any of it.
@chris AreWeSure is a paid shill. He's what they call a "concern troll". Google it.
You can easily prove this yourself. All you have to do is ask AreWeSure the right type of question. For example regarding 9/11 ask him these types of questions:
Is there ANY evidence that 9/11 was an inside job?
Is there ANY evidence that building 7 was a controlled demolition? (It was.)
Another way is ask him about Clinton Cash.
Is there ANY evidence Hillary broke the law with respect to the Clinton Foundation?
Is there ANY evidence that the Foundation's CEO, Eric Braverman, quit because he detected charity fraud? (He did.
Etc etc.......ad infinitum
An objective person with no shill bias would acknowledge at least something. Just in that WTC demolition post where I list the top 10 pieces of evidence surely you could acknowledge at least ONE is legitimate. The Larry Silverstein evidence is unassailable.
What you'll find though is AreWeSure won't acknowledge ANY evidence as legitimate. It's pure insanity. No one is ever 100% sure of 100% of everything.........except the AreWeSure brothers. They are 100% sure no one working for Clinton & Co committed any crime ever in the history of the universe. Ditto for 9/11.
Doubt me? Go ahead try asking him yourself.
:-D
@AreWeSure @are_we__sure @RweSure