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[–] DarkMath 2 points 4 points 6 points (+6|-2) ago (edited ago)
"the code words from the FBI" basically dont exist"
That's flat out wrong. All those code words exist and are used by Pedophiles to talk in code. In addition to "cheese pizza" meaning child porn the term "Buck" has a meaning for Pedophiles:
A child they want to fuck on a camping trip.
Go watch the documentary "Chicken Hawk", it'll set you straight.
And stop listening to the MSM. You've obviously been "disinfo"ed into thinking the code words don't exist.
EDIT 1:
(sarcasm)
I want to apologize.
You know what you're right "chris". Those deplorables over at 4chan are bigots and want to keep gay people in cages.
Here I was this entire time thinking pizza was a sexual reference.
Or that a walnut looks like a prepubescent labia when clearly a walnut is a nutritious part of any diet.
Or even that walnut sauce as prepubescent cum was wrong.
I'll try harder to avoid wrong think in the future.
@_@
(sarcasm)
:-D
[–] Millennial_Falcon 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
He's talking about 'walnut,' 'sauce,' 'cheese,' 'hot dog', 'pasta', etc. We have no sources to back up those as code words.
[–] Are_we__sure 2 points 1 point 3 points (+3|-2) ago
Yes. This what I was referring to.
[–] DarkMath 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago
"We have no sources to back up those as code words."
That's simply not true. I'm a little surprised to hear you say that Millennial_Falcon.
:-D
[–] chris [S] 2 points -1 points 1 point (+1|-2) ago (edited ago)
Are you saying the video I linked is disinfo? He seems like he does some pretty good research and doesn't at all seem like disinfo to me, just a rational analysis of pizzagate evidence. The video is pro-pizzagate afterall.
What he says in that video is that those terms weren't something documented by the FBI, that a random /pol/ user just said that and people ran with it. It's entirely possible they were around and have been used and I'll check out that documentary, but do you have anything not in video form that would serve as proof for that?
[–] Are_we__sure 2 points 0 points 2 points (+2|-2) ago
The issue is the pzzagate evidence is incredibly weak. It's mostly speculation that is used as a basis for other speculation. It's simply not an honest investigation and it never was. It started from the POV of people who felt Clinton was horrible and must be destroyed. It was started by dedicated enemies of Clinton and Podesta who went hunting for ammuition to be used against them. And they didn't care if they had to distort what was in the emails or lie about them. There's simply no honest reading of the emails that gets you pedophilia-Satanism-cannibalism-trafficking, etc. So you have to change the meaning of the emails and come up with some code to make them seem sinister.
In this way provocative performance art by an internationally acclaimed artist became Satanism. In this way a pretty boring set of emails becomes the fodder for other people's paranoid fantasies.
If you really want to look into this, put all the Pizzagate stuff out of your head and read all the emails, one after another and see if they seem spooky to you. Then you'll see how much effort went into manufacturing this scandal.
[–] DarkMath 2 points -1 points 1 point (+1|-2) ago
"is disinfo"
Disinfo would imply the guy is lying. But he might just be wrong. Either way the fact "those terms weren't something documented by the FBI" doesn't mean the don't exist.
Do some more research to prove it to yourself. You might start by watching "Chicken Hawk". The word "Buck" most definitely exists and is a pedophile code word.
:-D
[–] 9762787? 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
As far as I onow, the FBI has never posted these code words, whereas their bulletin on the symbols has been around for years prior to pg.
That being said:
All it takes is one person knowing a weird reference, and the In Group to latch on to it for their code.
The people we are dealing with are way edgier than you. They are not fuddy duddies, they move in the elite circles of avant guard art and culture.
One of them may not have invented trolling on the internet nor coming up with his own sick burns, but he made it into an electioneering tactic. David Brock.
Once a Code is established, it will evolve as the In Group delights in their dupery. Esp if they interweave it with ordinary life. I remember calling weed "a handbag" before it was legal. My girlfriend and I would go shopping for fine leather. If we were broke, we needed a coinpurse. My brother and I also had a Code of singsong nonsense for mocking our dad bneath his radar. We could do it right in front of him. This is basic human nature.
Occultists relish multi-entendres.
I don't think you are accurate on your stats for the demographics of pg-ers. Somebody did a survey a few months ago in here.
This forum is chock full of threads discussing the many tentacled etymology of pizzagate. I believe the resistance to compile it for you using search voat comes from folks having better things to do.
This is a place where people care about saving children, preventing slavery, and bringing transparency to our obviously corrupt justice system.
Some seem to think it is a macho pissing contest, othets, a circus to throw rotten tomatoes at, but I believe deep down inside, everyone knows that child sex trafficking has tainted all levels of society.
[–] 2impendingdoom 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
This guy doesn't deserve such a great comment.
[–] 9764228? 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Thanks for saying so. I want to deserve my own comments when I can. I have seen this issue come up with genuine concern for fact checking. I think Chris here has built too high of goalposts for proving the validity of pizzagate lingo. Making up codes for subversive activity seems to be super primal human behavior, but it is easy to forget that when pinning down the provenance of "pizza".
I think part of the problem is that we have teleported through this experience outside of its chronological order. Some info comes from sources that are a decade old, but it is news to us. Depending on when a person started following pg, reposts of previously discovered info is fresh to them but stale and frustrating to others.
Always forefront in mind is the CURRENCY the EMERGENCY. Children are being hurt right now.
I guess we can call pg-iz "#hotard" and Are We Sure #chickenlover since those are merely hipster terms of endearment ;)
[–] Jem777 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Chris, Here is the internal FBI document that listed pedophile code words and symbols. It was put in writing in 2007 and leaked through wikileaks during the election prior to John Podesta emails being released. This was not a 4chan fantasy. The FBI documented the codewords. You can also speak to any law enforcement agent who has worked child porn/abuse cases and they will confirm these codes exist.
It did not start in 2007 but was codified at that time. The movie Chickenhawk is a good one to watch. Michael Alig was in this film I believe. He later was convicted of murder and dismemberment of an alleged roomate. He was released from prison last year and is a friend of James Alefantis.
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/File:FBI-pedophile-symbols-page1.jpg
[–] chris [S] 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago (edited ago)
Yeah someone else referenced that documentary, I'm gonna check it out. Those arent the codewords I was referencing though, I agree the symbols are legitimate. I'm talking about these:
https://m.imgur.com/NMBJD4H
[–] Ushil 2 points 2 points 4 points (+4|-2) ago
This term as code for child pornography was long in use before pizzagate
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheese%20pizza
Of course it isn't known to the average man if only pedos use it.
[–] chris [S] 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Im not sure what point you're trying to make. I said cheese pizza is a term created in the early days of 4chan, not during pizzagate?
[–] DarkMath 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago
@Ushil is pointing out the Urban Dictionary lists it as a code word and that's outside of /pol and 4chan.
You could make the argument that the Urban Dictionary definition was made by someone from 4chan but you have no proof of that. You're just speculating basically.
I've been here since last December and I can assure you all those code words exist in the Pedophile world. The only question is whether they were just coincidences in the Wikileak emails or a sign of foul play.
Make sense? The question isn't do the words exist but HOW they were used in the Wikileaks emails.
[–] bopper 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
He darn sure knew what a "shill" was.
[–] chris [S] 2 points 0 points 2 points (+2|-2) ago
evidence? or is that some kind of way of blowing off legitimate questions because you know I'm right.
[–] bopper 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
Here you go. Alefantis has been on Voat and/or has others monitoring it for him. The Pegasus video made him flip out.
https://youtu.be/pUly5qbK25k?t=123
[–] cantsleepawink 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago (edited ago)
I have already posted an official THORN document that was presented at an Arkansas county meeting (years ago) showing the use of the term "cheese pizza" in connection with kiddie porn on the dark web. So get outta here...
[–] chris [S] 2 points -1 points 1 point (+1|-2) ago (edited ago)
and what the fuck does that have to do with my question? Did you even read my fucking post? cheese pizza is a term 4chan made in the early days, of course its on fucking tor you idiot.
[–] cantsleepawink 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago (edited ago)
The cheese pizza screenshot in the THORN report was a direct link to child pornography.
Do you even realize what you're saying here jackass ?
[–] 2impendingdoom ago
http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1977/05/16/page/8/
1977 chicago tribune pedo article Chicken is code
[–] chris [S] 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago
chicken is only ever referenced in pizzagate as jimmycomet jokingly calling his friend a chickenlover as a sarcastic jab to a normal pic of a dude holding a coworker's child. Im sure chickenlover is a phrase known in the gay community that's referenced sarcastically quite a bit.
[–] 2impendingdoom 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago (edited ago)
I'm talking historically, it establishes a documented pattern of using food code words for little fuckable boys. This was in a NYT article many years ago, in a photo caption, someone here posted a link many months ago. It looked like a microfilm photo, maybe someone else can remember where that is. However, its not just jimmy comet using the language, there are a lot of unrelated people cited in various posts confirming the use of the pizza code. Use the search and you'll find independent pedo confirmation, I remember a few posts specifically about this. And, the use of language is just too awkward and weird for normal usage unless you understand that the words are code. pizza on dominos? Really? we aren't that stupid.
[–] 2impendingdoom 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
there is an old NYT article about the Bush whitehouse callboy scandal that uses the word chicken for young boy, This was clearly code in the early 80's and its documented on the NYT frontpage. That is actual evidence that supports
1: pedophilia using food for sex code
2: Pedophila rings at the highest level of power
3: its not a big jump to switch the terminology from chicken to cheese pizza