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[–] keepthefaith 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Brian kept having bunches of illegitimate children too, so rest of stones probably didn't want numerous claims on their estates?
[–] Reversible ago
Jones' father's history is very interesting. Having looked into this in a lot of depth, it seems most likely that the occult connection in the Stones was Jagger and his father, with Tavistock (Andrew Loog Oldham and probably Stash Klossowski De Rola) securing the hit songs from around 1965 onwards from an anonymous musical genius, reputed to be Marxist philosopher and composer Theodor Adorno (Keith Richards named one of his daughters Theodora) since the band was originally a cover band and only started churning out the classics after Jones' meeting with Stash.
Weirdly enough, Stash himself is the son of Balthus, the acclaimed modern artist whose work was banned from exhibition in Essen recently after it was deemed paedophilic. We know Jones enjoyed hanging around with the likes of Andy Warhol and he was far from innocent, but I can't see him as the true mastermind behind the rise of the band.
The YouTube researcher Jungle Surfer has some crazy ideas about the Stones all being transgendered. I don't buy it, since I know Jones has many lookalike children and grandchildren who you can even contact yourself on Facebook. They were adopted by 'normal' families.
So, these rock circles are definitely a weird mix of 'normal people' and high masons and nobility. I'm not sure exactly what to make of it. For example, I can't seriously view the children of Keith Richards or Eric Clapton as Illuminati insiders. But there will always a cloud of suspicion over these people because of the company they choose to keep. I'm tempted to conclude that Jones was a high IQ rogue genius who was connected to the others via Oldham, and tried to ingratiate himself with this elite crowd, with depression and mental illness to follow for reasons that we can never be sure of (though the overall picture is clearer now).
Honestly, it seems like there was a genuine rift with his father who HATED rock music and the 1960s social movement and refused to meet any of his illegitimate grandchildren. So I think Stash is the Tavistock link, not Jones' father who was an aircraft designer with fairly loose links to RAF Intelligence which were my own guesswork (I admit I was filling in the blanks there. The background connections are strong but I was still being a bit creative).
This picture gives you a rough idea of what I'm talking about:
https://tiny url.com/h7f9shz
A very intelligent, paranoid guy, I think. A wannabe rebel who became embroiled in something way over his head, and had a nervous breakdown as a result.
[–] keepthefaith ago
Stash is described/talked about in depth in Marianne Faithfull's autobiography. Hers beats Keiths or Ronnie hands down. I wish Anita Pallenberg would write her memoirs.