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[–] cguinevere 2 points 53 points (+55|-2) ago 

I just want to add that I have experienced the existence of a "collective consciousness/subconsciousness", if you will. I experienced some hard core silencing & shunning as a result of abuse in my childhood. As a result, I would go totally silent inside myself & leave my body. I realized that communicating with words isn't everything...there is a spirit world, or soul world, or whatever you want to call it. And it blesses those you trust in it. Just touch Truth (spirit world), know it, be solid in it. Don't waste your energy explaining to those entrenched in ego - collective consciousness will take care of them, on way or another. Karma too. I have not received "justice" from our court system, society, etc., nor have I always been "heard" on this physical plane - but I have experienced justice on a different, karmic plane. And beauty, justice, & healing exists there. Sorry to get a little "out there", but I feel it is important in this tumultuous time. Many are awakening.

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[–] gardenofbacchus [S] 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

That was a really nice post and I think I understand what you're talking about completely. I feel like most of my life I've spent in this subconsciousness compared to physical reality. Being in this state also seems to push you closer to spirituality in God, even though I don't consider myself religious (yet)

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[–] TaipeiS 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

You're right on with your post. I'll continue the 'woo-woo' as Clif High would say. We're now in a spiritual war and many are still deceived. No matter what I say to my older brother, he blows me off. He's an academic and totally believes what he reads from the NYT or whatever any "scholar" says. Knowing through science is his religion. So I just plant seeds and leave it at that. We are all going through the experience of using our free will to choose our polarity - positive or negative energy. So we must give our friends the opportunity to make their choices. But planting the seeds will help them cope with the trauma they are soon going to face when the truth comes out. They're going to go through all the stages of grieving, and they may come back to you at that time for some real discussion of what you know. Everything - organized religion, science, university education, schooling - will be challenged and have to be discarded or rebuilt after we go through the next two years.

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[–] Ashra 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Reading this gives me hope. These echo thoughts I had a decade ago and had to suppress to function. Love to you brother.

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[–] LolturdFerguson 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Don't apologize for speaking hidden truths. Now is the time to unite all of our energies...spiritual, physical, mental and become the persons we are meant to be.

The awakening is happening, granted I hoped it would be in a more positive manner. But just as evil needs the light, so we need a catalyst to emerge from our conscious minds into our subconscious.

Now is the time to trust that "gut feeling", intuition, whatever you want to call it.

Even if you feel it is irrelevant, don't be afraid to share any information you have, ideas or even course of action.

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[–] Kinglover78 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Recently, I was crying out to Him for justice to be visited on these pedophiles and for them to be led to Him for forgiveness. He said clear as day,"Things will start happening now. All that is hidden in darkness will be revealed by My light." So thankful fir His omnipotence.

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[–] MolochHunter 0 points 31 points (+31|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I find red pilling is easier through recent history

PRELUDE TO PIZZAGATE

Researchers who have plumbed the depths of public information surrounding the prospect of John Podesta and the Clintons being potentially involved in child trafficking and abuse appreciate that these suspects are simply the most recent in a long line of scandals, evidence and cover-ups that suggest a long-established network that uses paedophilia and even homicidal paedophilia as a crucial method of control and coercion to maintain and strengthen their grip on various levers of power.

Hold in consideration that the wider network of clients and accomplices of multiple prior scandals have never been bought to trial. Appreciate that, sequentially from the early 1980’s, with the Jimmy Saville, Larry King, Franklin cover-up, Jefferey Epstein, Senator Nancy Schaefer, Laura Silsby, and Denis Hastert cases we have scenarios where one individual (usually the ‘procurer’ of sex abuse victims) is ‘hung out to dry’ and serves some time but the entire network of enablers and clientele has continued ‘on the loose’ to perpetuate the illicit activities. This in and of itself should be cause for considerable public concern even in the total absence of new revelations by Wikileaks that the Podesta brothers and Clinton camps may be involved.

One could well speculate on the correlation between these successive failures of justice / fulsome investigation and the alarming increase in the size and scale of those paedophile ring busts that have been occurring. In the 1980’s, a paedophile ring bust in excess of 10 people would have been a shocking anomaly. In today’s world we had 380 arrests with 400 children taken to safety (Canada 2014), and 430 arrests with 30 taken to safety (California Feb 2017). We might also mention the 80 Norwegian arrests in Nov 2016 with 150 Terabytes of child abuse data. Even in high definition, at an average half-hour 1GB video, we are discussing potentially 150 000 incidences of child rape/abuse, including even torture and homicide.

This is unequivocally a growing, global epidemic of the most unimaginable depravity. To newcomers, it may seem inexplicable that such depravity seems to be ‘over-represented’ in the world’s most powerful people. This is to misunderstand the motivation and utility of collaborative child abuse. If rape is about power, not sex, then organised paedophilia is about ultimate power. Not over the children – that part is despicably easy – but over one’s accomplices. The fear of exposure is a binding contract that enables criminals to overcome lesser fears of wrongdoing in the service of their fellow accomplices – whether to destroy speculation/exposure/adversaries, or to advance their position in power structures. Perhaps the most critical realisation to accept in order to appreciate the magnitude of the human trafficking issue is that those who participate in it are not random, solo aberrations who manage to connect and collaborate, but rather that it is a depraved network that benefits – and thus deliberately and orchestratedly seeks to expand as a network.

There is a certain depraved logic and mechanics of its growth. Paedophilia is not just regarded as the most depraved crime by decent people, it is ALSO THE MOST VIRULENT. If you are the victim of a burglary, for example, it is unlikely that this experience will turn you into a burglar. Similarly if you are assaulted, defrauded, raped or a victim of any other crime. But if you are inappropriately sexualised before your time, if your innocence is revoked by someone with far greater power and no genuine regard for you, it is not uncommon for that experience to make you grow up to be a similar predator.

Old rich boy’s clubs have long used sexual depravity to enforce loyalty to those desirous of holding the levers of power. We also know that modern ‘Secret Service’ programs have reinforced this dynamic by wilfully cultivating paedophile rings in operations designed to ‘compromise’ anyone of power or influence – to either find or create dirt on people. These sting operations used to involve extra marital affairs or homosexuality, but since these activities lost their social scandalousness, the Intelligence agencies opted for the unthinkable next step.

The Media disinclination to show the links and associations between the increasingly frequent and sizeable paedophile ring busts prevents justice, and delayed justice means that more and more 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation victims become paedophiles, whilst their depraved progenitors remain at large to create yet more minions. And with every passing year, the members of this circle-of-perversity seep into every possible position of power -especially such positions concerning the safety of children and the evasion of justice - until the day will come where no man or woman of decent standing will be able to compete successfully for any position of influence without being pitted against the debauched, who are willing to engage in any and every other category of crime to avoid exposure. And those creatures will prevail in vying for those positions even when of lesser talent and experience because the powerful paedophile cult will always select one of their own above a meritorious but uncompromised candidate. It is therefore imperative, not just for the children but for any hope of a Humanist civilization itself that this phenomenon is exposed, understood, destroyed, and that society takes remedial corrective sociological steps to prevent its re-emergence.

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[–] ThighHighSwampBoots 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You have said it well. Better than well. This is the explanation. Everyone should save a copy of MolochHunter's above statement. Thank you so much. As an insiders' victim I know it is correct and horrible. What shall we do what shall we do. And how shall we do it. But do it we must. I am ready.

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[–] MolochHunter 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

thangyouverymursh

Another trick to redpilling this thing is to state that amongst all possible conspiracy theories this one is most credible because it requires absolutely no alteration or extension of the laws of physics, nature and our understanding of the world. Flat earth, aliens, other dimensions etc all challenge our existing laws

whats supernatural about paedophilia? nothing. Whats new about rich people getting away with crimes poor people dont? nothing. And just add that with what I said before about mafia loyalty and the virulence of paedophilia and you have all the makings of a scandal that is in many ways expected and inevitable if it isnt already here now

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[–] B_dog 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yes, use the mainstream history to 'red pill' people. And don't try to dump it all at once. You can't go from Moloch to Franklin to Pizzagate, and everything in between, in one long soliloquy.

I've been dropping little hints based on rock solid proofs for a few months now. If you do it small piece at a time, people don't freak out so much.

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[–] anonymouslurker2000 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Superb post, it helps me understand the context of PG a lot more too and I totally agree, THIS is the way to red-pill people, the instagram photos and emails are creepy and weird for sure, but they don't prove anything ultimately and are too open to interpretation and easy to dismiss by anyone who already thinks PG is insane. But put them into a wider historical context and it would be exceptionally naive and narrow minded to continue to fully deny the feasibility of PG.

I also think the media response would be another potential way of red-pilling people in addition to the historical context (and I'm working on a blog/essay focusing on it in an effort to red-pill people), 'debunking' it before doing any debunking, creating the term fake news specifically for PG it seems, distorting allegations making it out to be just about Comet and the 'Look at poor little JA and his innocent restaurant...' narrative, even using statements from JA himself in the Snopes and NYT's 'fact-checking' pieces, (using statements from the accused themselves as evidence against the allegations is surely a major red-flag).

Snopes even admits on their article that 'we are unable to locate any substantive aspect of the claims that could be fact-checked or otherwise held up to the light to determine their veracity.', so how could they confidently brand PG as false??

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[–] Blacksmith21 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Exceptional and eloquent. I third, fourth, etc. this needs to be saved for posterity and dissemination to others. Be careful how your transmit though. Would be better to convert to de-EXIF'd graphics file versus open text.

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[–] SoSpricyHotDog 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago 

Yeah man, don't just write them off. It's all good. Some people just can't handle thinking outside of the confines they've been trained to mentally exist within. The scary part is that Alex Jones hit the nail on the head when he started back in the mid-90's. Does he say crazy shit? Yes. Does he get everything right? No. Does he occasionally take off his shirt in strange videos? Errr... yes. But... what he DID get 100% correct? There is an information war.

This is everything. Information is everything. You think the censorship we're seeing re: PG is bad? It's been this way since the beginning of the internet. A low cost tool to connect to everyone in the world and share information? This was the beginning of their end and they knew it. Info warfare went into hyperdrive once this became a 2 way street. And some people just can't handle it... don't want to spend the time... enjoy their bite-size mindless news segments that last for 60 seconds... etc.

It's not you. And... it's not them. It's the system that we are fighting against.

At the end of the day, my wife said it best (she's about 2% aware of what's going on with everything)... she said "I just don't get it, what is the ultimate goal? They've got endless amounts of money... power and influence at the highest level. These conspiracy theories about the New World Order just don't make any sense."

Fast forward to Pizzagate, and she said "That is truly disturbing. I don't want to believe it... but I could never figure out what these people wanted, and this would almost make sense in that point of view" (Referring to PizzaGate and possible Occult rituals)

Just keep red-pilling, but, do it in a way that is suitable for your audience. Sometimes just asking people questions about it is enough... lead them to YouTube or the sourced summary here on Voat if they ask. But, don't force it. If they want the red pill, they will slowly open their hand to you and shatter the "CNN Complex" that has hypnotized so many of us.

I always like to say: "Even if PizzaGate is totally false... there is still an epidemic of child trafficking and multiple historical cases/cover-ups with high level politicians/businessmen/public figures. The elite class still rules over us and bends the laws, which is illustrated in the leaks. Doesn't it make you curious to know what these people who control the world have been hiding? Even if it is merely a peak behind the curtain?"

Typically, when I present it like that, they can't red-pill fast enough.

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[–] GeorgeHodelDidit 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I never believed any of the conspiracy theories because I couldnt imagine people actually thinking the rest of us are cattle. I couldnt imagine the Government allowing 3000 Americans to die intentionally. But the Pizzagate rabbit hole gave me the actual reasoning behind it all. It is insane thinking by them but it finally makes sense......like one of the guys on the Joe Rogan show said....it is the conspiracy theory that makes all the other conpiracy theories make sense..

It explains population contols...the poisons and man made viruses...it cements it all. Because these fuckers are Satanist and could give two shits about us.

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[–] boysforsale81 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

yes, Eddie Bravo said that and fully encapsulated how I felt.

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[–] MolochHunter 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

"Even if PizzaGate is totally false... there is still an epidemic of child trafficking and multiple historical cases/cover-ups with high level politicians/businessmen/public figures."

precisely. You dont necessarily have to convince people that anything is going on at Comet Ping-Pong. All you have to do is illustrate the mechanics by which it is nether incidental nor accidental that there is a correlation between power and paedophilia. All you need do is show that the more powerful / influential someone is, the more likely they are a willing participant or a cowed compromisee to a syndicate beyond any possible justice but Gods or the mob's.

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[–] Narcissism 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

To understand their end goal its necessary to understand MALIGNANT NARCISSISM.
THE NWO project is the Elite increasing their Pathological Narcissist Space (an area in which they derive attention/ accolades/ or to be feared). People are just an extension of the Narcissist like another organ or another limb thats why its so easy for them to abuse others. Check out Sam Vaknin's work on YT.

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[–] Lowdog 3 points 21 points (+24|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Don't do it, it is not worth it.

Redpilling my friends about Trump and the hypergamous nature of women is already pushing it, and I will only do that with the best of my friends who also like the process of discussing things in general.

Again, not worth it. You need your friends for other things. You can't force this truth on people. It takes a lot of truths before.

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[–] gardenofbacchus [S] 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

I'm more just shocked they aren't interested whatsoever, they really don't give a shit and just used it as a way to attack me personally. Why are people like you and I interested in what's happening in the world and pursuit of truth whereas other people aren't and just don't give a fuck? I'm struggling to come to terms with that

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[–] Mad_As_Hell 0 points 38 points (+38|-0) ago 

It's not that they don't give a fuck, their entire worldview is at stake. Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing. I'm sorry you've lost friends over this. I've gone from being a 'loony leftie' to 'to the right of Gadaffi' in my family members' eyes since Christmas. They think I want Syrian orphans to drown in the Mediterranean because I worry about the effects of open borders and completely uncontrolled migration in Europe, and argue that 'a few' white people getting raped and massacred in the process is worth it, cos imperialism. I've been avoiding any unnecessary social encounters in work and personal life as I find it very stressful to hear how brainwashed people (who I was once on the same wavelength as) are.

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[–] jaxyou 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

It is hard to see the light and this is nothing new. Check out Plato's Allegory of the cave.

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[–] yourtruthseeker 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

The illusion is strongest for those who have received everything from it.

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[–] Phishingteam 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

You have chosen to Love the Truth. And resist Evil. You are quite simply, explaining the test God admitted to doing in 2 Thessalonians 2:10. The People/Souls that only like truth part time and Chase money full-time are a different breed. I do not like grouping folks or Judging them. The parable of the "seeds" explains 5 types. The teaching about Lukewarm types explains 3 groups. Luke 11:23 explains 2 groups. I was taught Religion 1/4 of my life. Then someone pointed out that it was the Religious people that killed Jesus and hunted his friends who had Faith. His Brother James and the others did not have faith and ran and hid until they witnessed his visits after the resurrection. Then they knew without any doubt and all died similar or even worse tortuous deaths without doubt. Look how they treated the savior and expect the same. Loving the Truth is the key to beating evil. Keep listening to the "still small voice" and get ready for all of your Knowledge to be overwritten with Wisdom. You might be the way your Lukewarm friends change and grow their Love for the Truth before we all get outta here. These alleged Religious leaders forget that the Bible warns of a Evil World Government "Conspiracy" in the end.

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[–] mergen 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Try changing strategies.

For normies , show them the pizzaslut and duct tape pic.

and then try pushing the boundary, like showing them Scully's exploits and his cute female assistants and then asking them WHO could afford paying him $10k per view.

Just be patient and subtle and it will pay off.

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[–] ThighHighSwampBoots 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Who is Scully?

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[–] Lowdog 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This is intellectual arrogance. Some of my friends are oblivious as fuck, but they're always good for a fun night out. No need to lose that over a difference in worldview. Pick your battles. Also it makes you a poor person if you only surround yourself with people who think alike.

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[–] 11-11 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

If a non-vaccinating parent hears of pizzagate, they get it right away because the topics relate.

I ran into #pizzagate as I was wrapping up 5 years of researching vaccines.

Big Pharma is helping satisfy the pedo population in a huge way.

With vaccines, things have changed since we were kids.
Infants are vaccinated before they leave the hospital and get five shots every 2 months after that (not exaggerating. 5 shots each visit at 2mo, 4mo, 6mo, 12mo., 18mo.). The ones that get 8 or 9 at a time frequently die.

With the full schedule, they get about 34 shots by the age of five.

If little kids seem zombie-like and non-responsive to you, it's not just you. They are like that now.

side note - common core starts them in sex ed in kindergarten. It is subtle and teaches: there is no right, no wrong and gender is based on how you feel. (you tube search: sex common core)

Fully vaccinated kids (those 5 and under on the current schedule) - are brain damaged to a certain extent (huge amounts of injected aluminum) with 20 - 25% severely damaged.

Check your local school's special ed rate to find out what the number is in your area. Example: In Detroit, 1 in 5 is in special ed.
By 2050 (or sooner? can't recall), at current rising rates, 1 in 2 kids will become autistic. The Globalists know this. In 35-45 yrs., the universities will go broke and sell their buildings to convert for adult autism campuses.

Anyway - symptoms make these kids easy to exploit; many cannot talk (at all), have autism, emotional problems, the list goes on and on.

Pedo's target these vulnerable populations. At some point, if I can gather my data, I'll start a new thread to provide links.

Parents of these kids often say --- What is going to happen to my child when I die? They have reason to worry.

It started with the generation of kids born around 1989 and the CDC has increased the amount of "required" shots to the point of insanity.
(another human diploid cell vaccine was added in January worth $1billion to the saleman that got it added).

"Shaken baby" is often vaccine damage. It looks the same. SIDS is actually, usually, vaccine death. Etc etc.
It is much worse than #pizzagate. Much much worse.

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[–] Baxterbaxter 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It never made sense to me why they vaccinate 2 day old infants for Hepatitis B, a sexually transmitted disease. Could it be to protect the pedos? Wouldn't it just be so sick if that's their motivation?

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[–] Ronnilynn31 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I had a child 21 years ago. I was shocked to learn a couple of weeks ago that they now vaccinate pregnant women?? So yeah, it's starts even before the child is out of the womb.

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[–] MolochHunter 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

do you know of any medecine/diet/therapy to mitigate the aluminium brain damage? (worried parent)

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[–] DefenderOfTruth 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

http://www.organiclifestylemagazine.com/issue/17-how-to-detoxify-and-heal-from-vaccinations-for-adults-and-children

Here's something to get you started. Maybe after reading that article you'll have a better idea what to research.

There are heavy metal detoxes you can do to help if you've been exposed.

One thing to note as you do your research, there are detox diets and then there are long term nourishing diets. I wouldn't stay in say, a raw food or vegan diet, for very long. But it's great for jump starting a healing process. The lifestyle I adhere to mostly is from the research of Dr. Weston Price (he went into "primitive" cultures and studied why they were healthy). Try to get your hands on a copy of Sally Fallon's book Nourishing Traditions. The front chapters will help you see the deception of the "diet authorities" we have today.

In addition to following Weston Price, I add in smoothies almost every day made with green powders from Health Force Nutritionals. That company is spot on with their detox products. I don't agree with their long term raw/vegan diet, but can't deny it's great for healing.

God bless!

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[–] bopper 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Dr. Chad in Madison Wisconsin, Natural Path Center. Amino Acid Therapy to re-build depleted neurotransmitters. Cured my depression. Therapy developed by a neuroscientist who once held the patent on two blockbuster AD meds but gave all that up 'cause they're effective only for a time.

But anyway, if aluminum damage is akin to mercury poisoning/damage then it could be permanent but amino acid therapy can bypass the damage and get you back to normal even if the damage is permanent, but if permanent you would have to continue the therapy always, but it's very easy.

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[–] 8239804? 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

What's your tactic for redpilling?

In my family, the only thing we all unanimously agree on is that pizzagate is real and the elite need to fucking pay for their sick crimes against children.

But if you say the word 'Trump', 2/4 get in a rage lol

I think if you're redpilling for PG it's better not to talk at first about the Elite angle, the Clinton angle, or any such like that. Talk about how disgusting child pedophilia is, talk about how you feel against child sex trafficking. If they're onboard with your disgust, then you're almost guaranteed (in my view) to get them to hear you out regarding an elite child sex trafficking ring. Don't even mention names at first. No names. Just the fact that this shit is very VERY real and we all need to stand up for those kids.

I have family and relatives who don't read ANYTHING except what the MSM says. But we are so hyper aware of sexual abuse because many of us (myself included) did suffer CSA that if you're not for the kids.... you're cut out. Why would you want to be friends with someone who doesn't want to fight against the child sex trafficking going on.... you know?

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[–] fartyshorts 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I made a few people question themselves and the media by simply showing one of the weirder emails and asking "Since you seem to know, what the hell does this email mean?" but I don't think any of them actually went on to investigate. They go back to watching sports, playing video games and keeping up with the Kardashians...

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[–] Whattheheck321 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Lol "since you seem to know....." I might try that. A nice way of saying "since you think you're so smart and I am obviously misguided, stupid and paranoid, what the hell does this mean"

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[–] gardenofbacchus [S] 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I've just been slowly trying to feed them info, I try and say things like "hey isn't it weird how John Oliver's entire show is just about Trump? Isn't it weird how his entire show is literally just ragging on the POTUS? Is that really all he wants his show to be about?"

Or "isn't it weird how on social media everyone seems to think identically and the only news you read is all from the exact same view point?"

Just subtle things, after Islamic terrorist attacks I'll try and suggest people think about why they might be occurring (Islamic refugees) and the possible ways to stop further attacks happening (limit Islamic refugees) but my friends have completely written me off, are brainwashed and can only respond with "racist bigot alt-right" etc. Why are these friendships even worth saving?

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[–] dingomeat 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Why are these friendships even worth saving?

When you're trying to survive in a broken society, it's very dangerous to be alone. Ask people who lived in Soviet countries. If you have friends, you survive. If you don't, you're in danger. Friends are witnesses, friends will vouch for you. Friends don't make good confidants. There is such a thing as different tiers of friends. You have to compartmentalize.

Normies prefer to talk about the people and drama in their daily lives. If you lend them an ear for that, you will have many people who would vouch for you in a time of need.

Normies will automatically shy away from something like Pizzagate, because it involves powerful people, and they see it as potentially endangering their livelihood and their family. If they perceive you as connected to something dangerous, they will push you out of their lives. Don't blame them for this, not everyone is equally curious, and unlike us, these peoples' survival instincts are serving them well. When you meet someone who prioritizes truth and light over survival instincts, you'll know by the look in their eye.

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[–] 2impendingdoom 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I know its long but the Kay Griggs, especially, or Sibel Edmonds videos are really compelling and they both explain from first hand experience how the abuse is systemic and used to protect and promote accomplices. Maybe you can be watching either of them when you know your friends will see it, maybe they will get drawn in to watching also and realize that there really is shit going on. Offer beer or food too, so that they stick around, don't push too hard, its not worth ruining your relationships

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[–] palmitespo910 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

My brother opened his eyes to the hate and tactics of the media when I mentioned to him a couple weeks ago that I can no longer watch SNL because the whole things is a bash trump party. Like, I get it...there's definitely material. But I already see trump bashing on the 24/7 news stations (lol if I watched that shit) and see it on social media (lol if I had that shit) and even though some of these things are definitely correct, I simply don't want to hear it because it's all I see/hear.

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[–] HopeLiesInTheProles 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This is a brilliantly subtle tactic, thanks for sharing. I just had great success using this on my boss, who is/was a big Hillary supporter. We found common ground (can you believe the entire media is just nonstop Trump bashing), and he agreed and said he's sick of it too.

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[–] birthdaysuit11 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Best tactic is to work in the field. Work for CPS and then become an actual investigator. This way everything seems legit.

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[–] Drnoway 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This is a good point. I showed Alefantisis insta to a person who had not heard of pg at all. He was instantly repulsed by it and had no doubt that these people are sick fucks. Then i made a mistake and mentioned Hillary. I could see the dissonance kick in.

This discussion made me also realize how thin the connection is with Alefantis and Hillary. For us believers it's crystal clear, but stop and think about it, how little there is hard evidence tying Hillary to PG.

My personal red pill was conspiracy of silence. Before seeing it i was like yeaah, this COULD be true.

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[–] DeathToMasons 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You think there is little evidence on Hillary? Huma Abedin sends her regular updates on what is going on with Laura Silsby situation in Haiti? A lady who got arrested for attempting to smuggle 33 children out of Haiti? Who Bill Clinton got pardoned? Then Silsby changes her last name and works for AlertSense who does the amber alerts? She has been connected to CPP. And then there is the Clinton Foundation stuff that George webb has kicked around with traficking and organ harvesting beeing among them. Can't see how Hillary is not connected.

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[–] MolochHunter 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

redpill on Hillary with Epsteins flight logs (26 Bill 6 Hillary) and Silsby, for sure. Add to that Hillary is the one who wrote the legislation that gives CPS workers cash bonuses for taking kids off their biological parents

also, remember, Hillary had a fundraiser inside comet ping pong

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[–] TimesUp 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What Hillary has done is so much worse than Pizzagate. It's all summarized in the YouTube series by George Webb. Quite horrifying, If that series doesn't red pill every sentient being that watches it, I don't know what would.

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[–] LurkerBgone 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

This post made me register. Thank you.

For a Canadian, I'm very pro trump. (Anti Trudeau). My girlfriends family? Well.. they like HRC and the MSM.

I opened up slowly by saying how disgusted I was with how much stuff goes on behind the scenes.

Then I explained wikileaks and J.A. Then I showed the "Fatherhood" video. I explained the voice marching and general details.

As horrific as that video is I believe it is the ultimate red pill

After seeing that my girlfriend and her mother were all over it.

Good luck fellow fighter!

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[–] Psalm144-1 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Question here. Has the "fatherhood" video been widely accepted as legit?? As much as i want that video to be legit how can we assume that it is authentic? I would caution using Fatherhood as a pizzagate primer, it seems like total conjecture to assume that this video is legit. Again, maybe i missed something and this has been determined to be legit by the PG community.

@darkmath Is fatherhood legit? Did i miss something?

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[–] trypanon 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Although I totally agree with you, even if it isn't Podesta, it still is enough to red pill somebody who doesn't want to believe trafficking/child torture and rape exists.

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[–] Vindicator 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Another user who is a sound engineer isolated the male voice and did a side by side comparison here in v/pizzagatewhatever.

Due to the other shock content of the site and the fact the video was in circulation before the Podesta emails were released by Wikileaks, it is not likely to be him. But I don't think you could say it's been "debunked" definitively. I don't catch everything that develops, though, so someone link me up if has been.

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[–] DarkMath 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

"Is fatherhood legit?".......It could be. Many people notified the FBI and other law enforcement about it. Time will tell.

There are bigger fish to fry though. I moved on a while ago.

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[–] druhill007 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

there's a ton of 'investigative drama' surrounding the video..... but you guys are exactly right. It serves as an ultimate red pill. I find it very odd when people attack it's legitimacy super hard... the kid screaming in it is definitely suffering, and there's a vid on twitter that has podesta yelling into camera to give an example of his voice alongside the video. Honestly sounds just like him to me, yet people will say "sounds nothing like him" lol

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[–] gardenofbacchus [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

No worries. My girlfriend is also starting to come around, she'll still argue with me etc but I think she's beginning to see the light. How much detail did you go into regarding wikileaks and how fast did you put it out there? Perhaps I'm getting ahead of myself and overloading people, forgetting that none of this will make a lick of sense to someone who doesn't fundamentally understand that we are different people to the elites

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[–] GeorgeHodelDidit 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Also never forget the propaganda value of repeating yourself over and over and not moving an inch. They have spent a lifetime hearing the bullshit.....you have to be strong and just tell them exactly what you think....fuck them if they think your crazy....it will put the idea in their head....and someday they may hear just the right thing from you or someone else and the light will go on.

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[–] Ilikegood 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

All day long. Family, friends and co-workers are all writing me off as "Nuts"...I live alone in my quest for truth with my Voat friends. :-)

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