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[–] Rightfight 2 points 49 points (+51|-2) ago 

Man ,Get sick of everybody trying to be so smart and suggest that absolutely everything is not to be trusted . Pizzagate will get destroyed as soon as it is not talked about . Anybody bringing attention to Pizzagate is of use . FFS . If you think David Seaman is some fucking operative then fine don't believe him . But he's more fuckin use than some poxy nobody who hasn't got an audience.

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[–] dindonufin 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

It's a psyop. They're allocating ALOT of resources into discrediting/silencing him.

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[–] Mooncutter 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Yes, the ONLY reason they attacking him is BECASUE he's right and dangerous. That's the REASON ffs!!!! If he wasn't right they wouldn't be attacking him.

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[–] ZalesMcMuffin 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

A LOT

A bunch

A ton

A mountain

A lot

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[–] Rightfight 7 points 3 points (+10|-7) ago 

Everyone has got there uses, I know plenty of channels which give flaky info. Seaman brings in Mainstream audiance that is of use. Some of those audiance will seek the other channels /researchers.

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[–] MolochHunter [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Eggs Zachary.

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[–] Rightfight 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Sorry , Complacent with the punctuation/etc. His audience is all I give a cotton picking fuck about.

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[–] Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt 12 points 46 points (+58|-12) ago  (edited ago)

David Seaman is a bit suspicious and deserves a strong degree of skepticism with a slight degree of reluctant support. Not only is he a profiteer from the situation, but he was uninformed on so many connections and related issues to be taken seriously, and he and others seemed to push the narrative a bit too far in the wrong directions almost purposely to make Pizzagate and Global Criminal Corruption become labeled "dangerous" and "fake news" by being outrageous and more focused on a few narrow targets that could be portrayed as victims.

If he is being genuine and is truly a real victim, then we hope he can provide proof of life and find an outlet to safety. If he is being threatened or forced to do this, then we need to support him regardless of not agreeing with his strategy, but his motives and actions should be seriously questioned as following a suspicious pattern. This all seems to be a setup, and a ruse to shutdown the real story of Pizzagate and Global Criminal Corruption.

This isn't about David Seaman. This isn't about a pizza place. This isn't about a campaign manager. This is about the key to unlocking the network of Global Criminal Corruption - and the answer sounds strange but it is Racine, Wisconsin - Paul Ryan's home district. Everything is connected, and that is the key to draining the swamp and solving the real puzzle of Pizzagate and Global Criminal Corruption. Trump cannot take on the world, and even Trump cannot be trusted as he has been tied to those involved for decades. That is why Racine, Wisconsin is the barometer for whether Trump is real or fake - if he does not drain the swamp and connect the dots in Racine to Pizzagate and Global Criminal Corruption - then he cannot be trusted, is in over his head, or has no intention of draining any swamp.

Hopefully David Seaman is safe and gets the help he needs. This along with the Alex Jones, who also cannot be trusted, and his Friday night speech video removal all seems much too coincidental. The real truth behind Pizzagate is scaring those who are really connected to the system of Global Criminal Corruption that they are playing all their cards and hedging every bet they can, but some have always known the truth. What they are afraid of is Common Global Knowledge of the real news story about what Pizzagate really is - Global Criminal Corruption. This is why they are focused on censorship and population control. They cannot let the masses find out the real truth, or their entire system of lies will fall apart. Pizzagate is real and it isn't about a pizza place - it is about an evil and controlled system of elite societies and the network of Global Criminal Corruption.

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[–] toldProperly 2 points 15 points (+17|-2) ago  (edited ago)

David Seaman, Pizzagate & Goldmoney

some highlights:

31:40 - in 2012 david holds reddit AMA where he announces he will be running for congress and needs money. he drops out within 4 months and never provides evidence that the donations were passed on to a worthy cause (as he claimed the funds would be). The AMA: Reddit, I'm a non-politician running for United States Congress to defend Internet freedom, right to trial, reduce police state craziness, and be a voice of relative sanity in D.C. AMAA.

34:30 - david raises funds to start a morning show and uses the money to move to LA where an unknown partner spent the remaining funds. joe rogan also snubs DS for a potential job.

35:00 - david takes a job a walmart greeter in colorado but quits during training to travel to canada to meet with goldmoney and has been an advocate of that questionable service ever since.

david is obviously hijacking PG attention and traffic to promote goldmoney with whom he has an affiliate marketing relationship. i don't think he is controlled opposition or a shill, he is just mediocre and self serving. PG is the most important material in the rapidly evolving information ecosystem atm and has the potential to bring down some truly evil MFs. david seaman is once again creating a 'buzz' for his own benefit but in this case the stakes are far too high for such bullshit.

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[–] 50hurtz 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

You know, I've been gradually noticing a pattern aswell, thank you for stating it so clearly and thanks to the user you replied to aswell. I noticed his videos down today and started to realize he always has some sort of sensational accident that makes people dump more money into him. But other than that he has helped spread awareness at the least and helped many people look deep into it. But I always wished he would source and show more examples, although it is better for some people to just have the majority of the content be mostly narrative. It just never did a whole lot of justice to me personally to not show what hes talking about. Edit: but someone like George Webb on youtube has never asked for a penny and goes deep deep into the investigation and sources everything.

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[–] Yates 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago  (edited ago)

36:28 last sentence of highlighted area says it was funded by "the legendary Soros family".

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[–] Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

He may not be a bad person, but you are correct about some misinformation, lack of research and connections to what Pizzagate really is, and using the situation for personal gain. Let's hope he is genuine and just not equipped to handle this case, which admittedly few are.

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[–] strix-varia 3 points 1 points (+4|-3) ago  (edited ago)

The expose on him (above), has finally convinced me. People were right all along, here on voat. I continued to support him (not financially...ever...thank God...nor buying gold....thank God) through watching his vids. And then, I got a newsletter two days ago, which was incredibly weird and suspect. He was great in the beginning and then he sold out. And now, someone has made a wonderful video called David Seaman, Pizzagate & Goldmoney. You were right people on voat...he is/was a shill. You were right and I was wrong.

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[–] EricVikingurr 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Maybe he's sick of CTR shills like you.

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[–] GroundhogDay 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

David Seaman is fine. Was advised to take evrything down and did so voluntarily, per a fellow tweeter.

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[–] Shuffleonover4now 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Can you prove this? I don't agree w everything a said but hope he is indeed ok.

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[–] the_one_tony_stark 3 points 0 points (+3|-3) ago 

I doubt it's entirely voluntary. I know what kind of harassment you get once you reach a certain kind of visibility. I also think there's a lot of divide and conquer going on, shilling attempts to get people to hate him.

The guy exposed hillary's health before the election.

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[–] Ciscogeek 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Please back this up, I can't just accept that from a <3 month account.

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[–] Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt 4 points -1 points (+3|-4) ago 

It's good to hear that he is fine. He seems like a guy that may be well intentioned, however hopefully he understands people's concerns about him being a face of Pizzagate and needing to connect more dots with better research and more knowledge of the bigger picture rather than focusing on such a narrow focus and extreme remarks that are the reason his accounts were taken down. Him being the face for the citizen investigation of Pizzagate is not only dangerous for him, but dangerous for everyone else who knows the real truth.

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[–] dFrog 3 points 32 points (+35|-3) ago 

I really don't understand the hate on Seaman. His style is definitely not the one I would use, but really, if you're okay with the likes of Alex Jones, I don't see how Seaman is worse.

I've never gotten the impression that he was taking credit for others' findings. He just talks about them. He has been an important voice on this and has helped spread awareness.

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[–] dFrog 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Regurgitating information without doing research is not "taking credit." He only takes credit for talking about things which is because he does, in fact, talk about them.

Out of all the YouTubers out there talking about this, he is by no means the worst.

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[–] 11-11 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

I do not agree

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[–] Ramona 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

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[–] sleepingbeautycan 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

No it isn't the taking other peoples stuff as his own. It is his drama. He will post a video about having chest pains and then a few days later post a video about a cop outside his house and fearing that "they" were coming for him. The first was a panic attack and nothing happened with the second. He is very ummmmmm dramatic and It drives me a bit crazy.

I know pizzagate can be dangerous but don't make a video and post it every time there is a cop.

I like him but I like when I can trust my reporters not to jump to conclusions.

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[–] equineluvr 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Seaman was canned from an early journalism job for being a relentless "self-promoter."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1476&v=tZXDHzZlYzU

About 24:33.

He is playing his audience with this drama, bigtime.

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[–] TakingBackPizza0013 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

well take notice that it is all just attack on his character and not the content. Which is cnn/ctr/shillbot 101... "Let's flood the discussion with discussing the source and credibility of the individuals, and not discuss the content involving satanic pedophile murderers and rapists". If Seaman gets wiped/whacked I'm fully shifting to Alex Jones, and we know how the "character driven" voaters loooove him.

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[–] 1984isnotamanual 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's either paid trolls or it's dickheads who think only THEY know the real truth and everyone else is a shill not to be trusted. David Seaman vets his information and actually doesn't go into alot of details about pizzagate which shows these trolls clearly don't watch any of his videos. We are wading in a sewer at the moment people care more about making money than the abuse of children.

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[–] Kcpedogate 2 points 20 points (+22|-2) ago 

David Seaman has been a huge help for spreading awareness for pizzagate. He might not be the one breaking the stories but he has been using his big platform to speak, courageously about Pizzagate. Don't let people fool you, Alex Jones and Seaman are pissing all the right people off, and they have risked everything talking about the trafficking of children. Let's stand behind them and not attcking them.

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[–] herbsmoke 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

they both refuse to mention zionism, and are both clearly spreading zionist propaganda for the pedos in the synagogue of satan. you saying we need to stand behind the gatekeeper media whores like these is highly suspect.

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[–] Kcpedogate 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I believe that just like all Americans can't be judged by the American elites, neither can all jews be judged by the zionists.

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[–] 153sdsd 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

Knowingly or not, for money or whatever reason he had, he was doing good by spreading this

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[–] strix-varia 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Yes, agreed...in the beginning and then he got infested by something called gold and bitcoin. He veered too far from the focus BUT he did spread the word...in the beginning.

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[–] 153sdsd 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I agree, though bitcoin is another way to fight the control for real, not gold

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[–] dFrog 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Wasn't he already talking about Bitcoin and whatnot before pizzagate?

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[–] klondike1412 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Yep, he really seemed (certainly initially) like he was honestly shocked to his core by what he saw. Was he someone who exploited things for money? Probably, but he did a hell of a lot to convince me it was real for one. If that is what happens at the end of the day (and even if he never really personally did much research) I feel bad for seeing so much division and putting so much negative pressure on someone who is clearly having a mental break already.

We shouldn't go around breaking peoples psyches when they are already traumatized by realizing what the government does to their own people.

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[–] 153sdsd 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

True

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[–] tehthu 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

After indictments start rolling out, this subverse will be dissected and studied for years on how open-source investigation communities can be compromised, demoralized, dismantled, and dissolved.

In the first few months, this was THE source for valuable information and investigation. This is why it was targeted so heavily.

If you wonder why you get agitated whenever you come here, its because there are paid psychological operatives running circles around everyone on this board.

Really looking forward to the indictments to start so the shills will disappear and flee and the rest of us can start to heal mentally.

Shills and psy-operatives: your day is coming too. Even if you escape justice in this life, God knows.

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[–] Mommyplayer571 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Very nice. Btw Trump did an AMA on 4Chan tonight. 404d fast _ https://twitter.com/mommyplayer571/status/835754132338245632

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[–] moolochslapper420 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

excute the shills their day in court will be hung!

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[–] Instincts 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

He's a very young passionate man who like many of us is likely one of the walking wounded and learning as he goes through life. Live and learn. I believe he deserves our concern & support. He is a human being. I pray that someone will step up & do a welfare check on this fella. Thank you for allowing me to contribute to this thread. Respectfully submitted, new member (long time Voat lurker & fan).

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[–] leprechauns 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

There has been a planned simultaneous takedown on all of David's plattforms!! This needs to generate an uproar from this community, there has been massive shilling on this sub to discredit DS for the last couple of weeks! This has been a well orchestrated coup to irradicate him off the internet completely. He had so much shit happening to him, it was terrifying, people around him died, they froze his bank accounts and he potentially got poisened!! If we let this happen just like that there sure won't be another person of public interest going to speak out about this anytime soon! If they can do it to David Seaman they can do it to everyone! This is a clear attempt to silence and intimidate potential advocates of pizzagate. Don't be fooled, there is no reason for us to antagonise David Seaman or any other researchers, shills have been trying hard to divide this community. We have to stand together now and push back even harder, David Seaman needs our help. FUCK THESE PAYED PEDO PROTECTING SHILLS

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