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[–] BarryOSeven 12 points 69 points (+81|-12) ago  (edited ago)

If this is true it is very serious. People shitting on him after reading this are total idiots or shills. I knew you shills had no moral code, but this is pure sadness.

Wait for more news to come out before you judge. This is pathetic.

I hope David recovers from whatever happened to him and to see him back on track soon.

You may not like his work but why take the effort to chase him with negatives. That is shill work, and there are many payed shills in here. You guys deserve hell if you continue after reading this thread.

Maybe David should seek help with the Trump administration or something.

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[–] V____Z 6 points 26 points (+32|-6) ago 

They are absolutely paid shills. There is NO WAY anyone with a heart (ie, people who care about saving children) could kick someone when they're down, bloody and helpless like this. It's not about his personality, this is a paid campaign because that's how Brock and Podesta roll.

The other bit of proof is that while these people seem like run of the mill Voaters who just have an extra discerning eye and want to warn us, to help us, they are SILENT on the real disinfo agents who are guilty of all the things David is accused of, and MORE. David has never spewed disinformation. Alex Jones is a total joke and yet these idiots are silent on him.

Further, at Voat it is the people telling the truth who are bashed relentlessly. And by relentlessly, even precious SRA survivor Becki Percy, when her videos were first posted to this site, was raked over the coals. she is as meek as a puppy and just sharing her experience of being a sex slave as a little girl, and people on here did the same discrediting campaign they do against David, justifying by saying that if she was in court it would be much worse. They called her a liar and all sorts of things.

The pizzagategear guy is innocent as can be, too. And because of that ended up trapping Alefantis into giving us even more circumstantial evidence. He was ENEMY NUMBER ONE around here because he sold tshirts. Again, silence on Jones' multi-million $ boner pills & water filters operation.

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[–] VieBleu 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

As a just a regular Voater, I compare this place to a concentration camp. It's like belonging to an abusive family and you never know where the next attack is going to come from, but it is always harsh. This forum is DEFINITELY not a place where people who have survived abuse should hang out. Maybe tell their story and leave, for documentation but don't worry about comments.

Also, anyone who sticks their head above the crowd to actually champion the pizzagate movement or move it forward in some way can COUNT on being roundly attacked - ISTHISGAMEOFTHRONES, Seaman, Kutcher (may be sketchy, not proven yet), Percy, Titus Frost, and I even saw a commenter try to smear James Woods with a venereal disease comment. I'm sure there are a couple I've missed.

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[–] newworldahead 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Good comment, I agree with you (except the part about Alex Jones. I like him).

I can't stand the Seaman bashers. They spit their venom and call him "Semen" thinking they are being funny. They suck big time. F*** them.

Their shilling disgust me. We have a guy who has a wide audience on social media and who is extremely vocal about Pizzagate. No need to agree with everything he says or does, I don't either, but FFS it doesn't give one the right to try to destroy him. This is stupid and childish. If only this Voat community was not infested by these stinky piece of shit shills, people could debate questions such as: "How can this guy help us with our Pizzagate investigation?". That could lead us somewhere.

Sorry for ranting... I'm pissed about the whole PG situation right now. So frustrating on so many levels.

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[–] HunkaHunka 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

I kept bouncing back and forth on Pizzagate, I admit, thinking it could be some sort of psy-op and getting a bit resentful of David Seaman being able to use his status as a former lamestream media writer to get a lot of cash donations and youtube money etc., while the rest of us labor for nothing but the gang stalking we might get when in the streets for this. I feel bad for questioning Seaman now.

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[–] Zethrowtf 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Trying to divide. Need this distraction from smear as a place to say I stand with him. Has more balls than I and moved this cause towards action by being loud.

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[–] yellowgreen 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Who the hell knows what's really going on with any of it.

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[–] Oldno7 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Yep, nobody who cares about pizzagate puts more effort into investigating Seaman than Podesta.

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[–] yellowgreen 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Definitely - Trump needs to be directly appealed to. David is a Pisces too - he's not made of iron. Sending you positive vibes, David!

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[–] Gothamgirl 8 points 42 points (+50|-8) ago 

If it wasn't for people like David speaking up, some of us wouldn't have ever heard about Pizzagate. Get well soon David!

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[–] DawnofTruth 6 points 12 points (+18|-6) ago 

Sorry but David Seaman has conducted ZERO investigation. All he does is parrot and disseminates other people's findings. He's not a journalist. He's not even a reporter. He's a repeater. David is the biggest martyr in the pizzagate online community. Alex Jones is runner up.

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[–] Ang68 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

We all have our talents. Some are researchers. Some are disseminators. When people work together amazing things happen.

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[–] virtuous_pedophobe 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

He never claimed to be anything other than a repeater.

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[–] Forgetmenot 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

You are very divisive and as long as you think the way you do, you will contribute very little to this cause. Have you no idea about the importance of team work? What are you trying to accomplish? You seem to only complain? Is that all you are? A divisive and complaining person is that what you have amounted to?

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[–] HarveyKlinger 13 points 11 points (+24|-13) ago 

If it wasn't for those of us who have been here from the beginning, there'd be no David. He came late to the party and immediately tried to monetize it. Go check out ALL of the people making PG videos on YouTube. There is only ONE who actively seeks donations and plays the victim card. Have you ever seen him in ANY threads on here or Reddit discussing anything? Nope. He just reads what we write and reports it as his own while proclaiming "the man" is out to get him. Sadly, some fall for it.

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[–] strix-varia 2 points 15 points (+17|-2) ago  (edited ago)

He was the ONE that red pilled me and for that I am grateful.

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[–] Azzipdoe 3 points 10 points (+13|-3) ago  (edited ago)

He doesn't even read what people write on here. If all someone watches is seaman for info, I doubt theyd even know the name "Alefantis"

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[–] Gothamgirl 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Yes true the researchers on here are excellent & 2nd to none. I guess you missed the point.-He helped spread the word.

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[–] end_boss 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

well what the fuck are you doing this for, for helping kids or for the fucking glory to jerk off to?

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[–] DeathToMasons 5 points -1 points (+4|-5) ago 

Yes...it is about...ONE BRAVE MAN!...Just no.

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[–] DeathToMasons 5 points 38 points (+43|-5) ago 

"David Seaman is the Pizzagate King of the Internet."...Just no. It is not about him. It is a serious scandal, and nobody is the "king" of it. As always, the focus regarding Seaman is all wrong.

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[–] Ang68 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Seaman help put Pizzagate in the public eye. There's no way he's a "gatekeeper". A gatekeeper would never be allowed to do what he did.

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[–] DeathToMasons 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

He did exactly what gatekeepers do.

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[–] jv209 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

No, wikileaks put it in the public eye.

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[–] SickofRedditsShit 12 points -1 points (+11|-12) ago 

Seaman is not only not the King but the the crutch of the community

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[–] LincolnsMullet 4 points 31 points (+35|-4) ago 

I see a lot of people giving David shit but nobody stepping up to the plate to do it better. Regardless of his motivations he's out there talking about it. Why isn't anyone here spending all their free time being public about this and sticking their neck out? Who then should be the preeminent public face of pizzagate related info? Someone who gets enough attention that they are publicly attacked and ridiculed?

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[–] Jem777 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Nice

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[–] Ang68 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Honestly? I see a VERY stressed out guy.

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[–] Forgetmenot 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Go find a purpose in life that does not revolve around focusing on david seaman you seem like a loser.

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[–] HomeboyChrisBanned 5 points 1 points (+6|-5) ago 

If thats how you feel, then why arent you chewing seamans ass for labeling seasoned vets with questions about his soros ties as "pot bellied pedophiles"? You literally question one little thing the dude does, and he instantly does that. Then we get all these bleeding heart NOOBS to come out here and defend the hypocrite.

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[–] 21yearsofdigging 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

How many of you types are on here?? Fuc off!

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[–] Forgetmenot 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

The shills are unbelievable, noobs? Is that what you think our culture is? You mix terms like seasoned vets and NOOBS. Go back and tell david Brock you need a raise. Or is it soros that pays you? Why are you jeolous of David seamen? Does he make more money than you?

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[–] nutsie 17 points 27 points (+44|-17) ago 

S T O P G I V I N G H I M A T T E N T I O N

im a lurker here, but this is the shit that tilts me the most

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[–] OrwellKnew 4 points 20 points (+24|-4) ago  (edited ago)

He didn't have legit information about high level pizzagate arrests being imminent.

Guess you missed Sandusky's son arrest

And citing @armyseer is Prima Fascia evidence that YOU are indeed a disinfo shill. STFU and GTFO. You're on my list now. Congrats ;)

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[–] WellSetTable 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

David Seaman was fired by Huff Post for reporting on Hillarys health. Then he started his YouTube channel and started standing up to the left. This is grade A bullshit you're posting here.

You fucking Brock shills are about as good as a tit on a wild boar you know why?

BECAUSE YOURE SO FUCKING OBVIOUS! YOU RUN YOUR SHILL GROUP LIKE YA RAN THE FUCKING ELECTIONS!

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[–] V____Z 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

What IN YOUR WORDS has David said this is disinfo?

And, tell Brock we said hi.

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[–] Mooncutter 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

keep spreading that vile disinfo, keep bringing hom the cash. Do you have a soul? What if you're wrong, and there is a God?

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[–] DeathToMasons 14 points 15 points (+29|-14) ago  (edited ago)

And your point is? Does he need....money? No offense, but Seaman's mental health is not a concern of mine. This sounds like a promotional trick of Seaman's. It would make him a victim and bring attention to the concept that he was a crucial player in bringing down the ring who needs to be silenced. Except he has created no research and informed people of a very broad picture void of much content. Insensitive on my part? Perhaps. But I have my priorities in order, and a youtube grifter who talks about others research while claiming to have done enough heavy hitting for the cause, is not a concern of mine. Prediction. ...David will be fine and pumping out videos daily while increasing his subscribers and view count.

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[–] ArthurEdens 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

The point is to tread carefully, investigators are being targeted

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[–] logjam 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

The point is to use your common sense and not to pull a leftist move by engaging emotionally to the point where you're saying the same shit over and over again.

What did he think would happen with all the people he was "calling out"? I think he ruined any credibility he could have gained with his approach to all of this. Fame whore I think.

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[–] 8204110? [S] 5 points 3 points (+8|-5) ago 

We'll see, but I have the feeling this might be serious.

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[–] Freemasonsrus 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago 

Personally, I have only watched Seaman's stuff a few times throughout this entire saga, but IF this is true than it is an example of a disruption campaign. Gary Webb was a good example of this. I don't wanna kick someone if they're actually down, so I'll withhold dismissing this and just hope he's alright.

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[–] lude 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Most I will do is pray for his health. That's that.

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[–] samhara 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

All the great [anonymous] researchers can't get their mind around that fact that people are paid via contracts to target individuals who are on an enemies list.. ?. Oh, That's Right, George Webb is also a shill. I forgot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtkztG8zDBc "Hillary's Henchmen"

Research means zilch, in terms of political power, if no one has ever heard of it nor understands it.

That's why billions are spent on TV / Mass Media / Network Programming..

Oh yeah the great researchers who started out last year think they are better than Seaman and think it's cool that he's taken down?

Good researchers are also taken down: Gary Webb, Mae Brussell , Dorothey Killgallen . Others more obscure you may not know the names of.. Since the Seaman critics apparently are ignorant of history?

All these self - described "great researchers" who do all the work for Seaman are imbeciles since they don't think Seaman should get paid.

Do most people work for free in our society?

Do you think that "Pizzagate" is not important enough and there is not enough money in our society to support such research and news / information?

How much, do you think Brock gets paid for what he does - fucking with us and for covering for Clinton who foments wars worldwide so she can profit. Yeah I know that's how they have the money to pay for the like of Brock - but why should Brock get paid and Seaman, not.

The people Brock and HRC pay to swarm on here as shills.. You think they love Brock and that's why they do it? Do you think they get paid or not? Or it is just selfless sacrifice since they are in a cult? Even in a cult they need to eat, have a computer and a place to sleep. Seaman lost his job. Should he deserve less than the shills?

What I saw was the Seaman was ready to call it for what it was, immediately. And he was attacked from both sides.

I guess all the great researchers here have been brain-washed by Brock and the likes of Hillary and the Pope.. The good people need to work for nothing; that is Charity. Otherwise, they are not sincere.. Look at us; we wear 15 K sweather and pay Brock to convince everyone we want the best for all.

So the critics of Seaman (who claims he's a shill for asking for donations) think they are smarter than everyone else but are taken in by the "Work for nothing. Or else we'll slam you for all about the money? "

Unfortunately Seaman doesn't have the money to hire a fund - raiser - so has to ask for himself. People are so used to fraud and paying for fraud - they don't understand that not everyone has a PR department?

It's another fucked - up tactic.. People who are good people always work for nothing, Right? Only the criminals get paid.. Because well, their expenses are higher.. And they have to be able to afford the chicken.

But the good people die in the gutter - that how they prove they are good. Yeah, right.

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[–] DeathToMasons 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Geore Webb also says that he doesn't think we should worry about jailing people, and he really likes Obama. He has no emotional attachment to any of their crimes. Something does not sit well with him.

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[–] Forgetmenot 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You are a divisive person and a wolf in sheeps clothing .

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[–] DeathToMasons 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No, that would be David Seaman.

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[–] Astrotheologist 3 points 12 points (+15|-3) ago 

Yeah he is in a war against satanic pedofiles. they are trained to not give a fuck about murder. This is only the beginning. I'm worried for my own life and i barely post anything.

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[–] HarveyKlinger 5 points 2 points (+7|-5) ago 

He's at war with himself. You're still not getting it.

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[–] Forgetmenot 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Tick tock. You will reap what you sow.

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[–] Azzipdoe 6 points 1 points (+7|-6) ago 

Lmao. You poor soul. Make sure to wear your helmet before going outside.

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[–] Jem777 7 points 12 points (+19|-7) ago 

The judgement of some is very Harsh.. for those who did not follow David at the time. He had a column at Huffington Post and wrote fair stories for both sides.

His stories were published there and many other places Including magazines. He was the only reporter in the MSM at that point who dared to Report anything at all to challenge HRC. He had enough clout to get a response from everyone & independent journalists when he dared asking HRC health after collapsing at 9-11. They savagely came after him. He would not retract so they took his job His and YouTube. Then De-monetized everything, shut down paypal and personally called out his name. Jake Tapper warned him openly.

He stuck to PG research. He was the major player in the beginning for those lost in election. He put together all the Original YouTube videos they were destroyed. They cancelled his Twitter completely and he went to Gab. He never quit. He was obviously scared to death at the fact he was getting personally attacked by government Media who had TopSecret clearance.

For those of you "heroes" out there who have attacked him you might think twice. When most were not following yet he already called out J.A. & Podesta personally.

He was threatened, he has been the truth teller. Not his fan but we all watch and so do they.

I am praying he is safe and goes to protection. Think twice about joking

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[–] HarveyKlinger 9 points 6 points (+15|-9) ago 

I was following him in the beginning and you proved my earlier points that he is not a journalist. A journalist reports facts and evidence. He has been reckless with his accusations. It's only because he's small change that they haven't come after him and sued him for everything he claims to own. He has "called out" John Podesta and JA on numerous occasions and proclaimed they were child molestors, satanists, pedophiles, killers, etc without a shred of evidence. No real journalist would be that stupid. If anybody took him seriously he'd have been sued for defamation by now. He's never presented anything resembling facts or evidence. I stopped following him when his accusations got more wild and instead of evidence, he shilled for donations. Fuck him. He's a fraud - as a journalist, a researcher, and a person.

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[–] V____Z 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

If he has been reckless with accusations, i expect there will be libel suits shortly. Then you will be validated. Until then you sound like a bitter know-nothing at best.

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[–] e-traiu 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

well said!

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