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[–] DeathToMasons 0 points 29 points (+29|-0) ago 

Also I am confused. You showed a video of two children, yet what makes you think either one was the one in the torment video? You could not see the child in that video. At least in Podesta's case, he has an east coast accent, the child calls him John and the lighting is just like CPP. As far as th child goes, you simply present a video with children and say it is probably them. Not compelling. Probably one of the children is the one for the torment video for what reason exactly? Any reason?

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[–] samhara 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Also, there is no time stamp? So even if the new video show the same children [and why should it exactly? I missed that part] the happy video could've been before the child was killed, roasted and eaten, for all we know.

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[–] blind_sypher 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The way hes trying to get us to brush this under the rug with little to no evidence on his part is suspect as all fuck. The child was behind a frosted shower door the entire time. You cant make out anything out about him other then a blurry silhouette. Saying its the kid in the video he posted is completely non-sequitorial.

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[–] wincraft71 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Check out this voice comparison of the fatherwood.web with an election night speech. Listen to the you and your sounds and the other words and let me know what you think. Check it out here

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[–] bopper 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Sounds like Podesta to me.

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[–] dmthirdeye 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

GUYS THE OLDER BROTHER IS EXPOSING HIMSELF TO THE YOUNGER BROTHER IN THE VIDEO THATS WHY ITS ON THERE. Ok in the video with the kids this is really fucked up. For one the older brother asks him 10:12 "Do you understand now why its fun to scare you?" the older brother also says 11:19 "ahhh ahh smell the gas..." which then makes that kill room drawing with the gas vents make sense and not seem as silly. Then I dunno maybe no one noticed this but the brother starts to wrestle with him, at 11:24 he appears to be touching the younger brother in his privates, then the little brother starts yelling stop, stop stop no seriously stop, the older brother then goes back to his chair and pulls his pants down to his ankles, when he sits back on the couch 11:39 you hear the younger brother laugh when he sees the older brother exposing himself with his back facing the camera on the couch. They both laugh very weirdly about it, its very obvious once you see. Right after that little brother says dads going to come home soon, 11:52 and you can see the older brother pulling his pants up, they are still unbuttoned and hes putting his belt back on. So... yea the video is of the older brother molesting the younger brother... thats why its on there. It may also be the same children from the other videos, the abused often become the abusers.

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[–] jv209 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

ya, I didn't realize this when I first watched it, but once someone pointed it out on reddit, it's hard to unsee. it seems like there is a trend on here where everyone is so quick to debunk this site that they aren't even filtering through the evidence properly. why are people so adamant that this site is some prank/BS? Let the truth come out instead of making up your mind prematurely and trying to come off as some hoitey-toitey, holier-than-thou spotter of disinformation.

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[–] ddavidson 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

At 11:19, he says "smells like ass" actually, but you're right about the older kid flashing his dick. I guess that's just the world he lives in. Poor kid.

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[–] islandofdelight 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

There is nothing suggesting that the child is alive and well after the abuse video was captured. This could very well be leaked by the same people who leaked the abuse video... It absolutely is John Podesta. This video could be leaked to help identify the child.

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[–] Ronnilynn31 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I agree with this. I've seen too many things suddenly popping up 'out of the blue' to dismiss this. I did at first. I listened to 30 seconds of the screaming video and there is nothing that tells me a kid screaming like that is goofing off.

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[–] Sheilaaliens [S] 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

it wasn't leaked on purpose, I just did some next-level snooping and found it..

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[–] islandofdelight 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I meant leaked onto the internet in the first place. You don't know it wasn't waiting to be discovered. You've done some great work, but I'm puzzled why you are making so many assumptions that aren't reflected in the findings...

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[–] awarenessadventurer 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

how do you know WHEN the video was taken. perhaps it was BEFORE the video. We know nothing for certain. YET.

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[–] Silencio 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

My thoughts exactly, the alive & well could just as likely be made before the other videos as after.

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[–] organic1 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

That's great they're alive, if it's them, but what loving parent subjects their kids to that?!?! Just because you don't see abuse happening all the time, doesn't mean it's not happening.

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[–] Sheilaaliens [S] 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Even abused children will default back to being happy children when they can. Obviously they aren't being abused in this video but in the other one they were being abused for sure. Dad is an asshole.

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[–] joey4track 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

This is just copypasta from the YT vid but PG has taken enough time away from all of us I'll wager so forgive me while I just ctrl-v.. Interesting and it's possible but I wouldn't assume that's the kid. Not sure if you have kids but when they are young and screaming at the top of their lungs they all sound the same for the most part. I'll give you the hair looks similar, it is a common haircut though. But the kid in the shower was significantly younger than the kid in this video. Could have been from before but I'm feeling this isn't related. Interesting but 'found kid alive and well' is quite an overstatement. Either way, if there is nothing to that abuse video why didn't the guy just respond to your email and come to voat and explain himself?

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[–] organic1 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Absolutely! Good work looking further into this.

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[–] wehaveyouremails 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Right, it's not like abused kids never have happy moments. They recorded their playing around while Dad was away from the house.

Thanks for recording this video so we didn't have to click suspicious links...this whole thing is the perfect setup to get people to accidentally download CP or collect IPs etc

(my time code references are based on your video (Sheilaaliens) btw not the raw video of the brothers)

Here's a dump of autism:

I don't think we can say it's the kids for sure. Robert has tons (fucking endless) vids of himself and his voice (including his voice when he's upset) and it doesn't sound like Fatherhood or Each. Personally I think the voice is WAY closer to Podestas (I think it's 100% him and that's CPP with the matching lights etc, but that's just my opinion). But that guy with all his teeth is the scatfreak's profile pic and everything...where did you see weird strobing colored lights in this brothers video?

There's just no reason to assume these are the same kids. Why would this even be uploaded by someone?

Is there anything anyone's noticed about the house? Can we find anything in there to place it's general location? What device is the younger brother playing with (could maybe nail down a year this was filmed)? Can anyone tell what the thing o the fireplace is? It's triangular with a flag folded on it...could we figure out what that is if it's some kind of award or something that could tell us who the Dad is? Can anyone make out what the kid is saying at 9:10 if it would help us place the time? At 9:57 does the older brother scold the couch kid by saying "SHANE!!!"? If you pause at 10:13 on the one frame of the end-table with the TV remote that's only sort of blurry, there's a jug of juice similar to the jug of chocolate milk the pedo guy is drinking in the tub...often people will buy the same type of products so could they be his kids? Do we know if he has/had kids? At 11:47 the kid stumbles his words, it sounds like he maybe says "Chase" or "Jase(on)" (like maybe the older brothers name?) and then it sounds like he says "Mom" but then switches to "Dad's coming home soon"? Can anyone make out what's being said?

And there are 3 brothers, not 2. Listen to the audio and watch the couch kid's face...

At first I thought it was just the audio being off maybe even by a few seconds, but the rustling sounds of the older brother adjusting the camera at 10:33 end right when he's done adjusting it so there doesn't appear to be any audio mis-timing...

Watch the couch kid through the whole clip, he's not talking when a bunch of the young voiced giggling and talking is going on, and at 10:33 when the older brother sets the camera down he says "quiet down over there" and the kid on the couch looks to the side.

At 10:43 the couch kid is doing a goofy open mouth facial expression while you hear giggling, that doesn't make sense. And then he lays on his stomach and you hear the voice of a kid laughing their ass off, which doesn't make sense.

My guess is at that moment the older brother is off-camera to the right tickling or playfighting with another young brother...the way he's giggling and not running around the room I'd guess he's younger than the couch kid, maybe sitting on the floor.

At 11:45 the older brother does a bunny stomp across the room toward where I'd guess the 3rd kid is and you hear him giggling away while the couch kid has a closed mouth and somber expression when he realizes Dad is coming home soon.

But then at 10:15-10:20 you can pause and catch glimpses toward the fireplace and TV area and I don't see a kid there.

But at 10:21 you hear the kid giggling away and saying "I wanna SEE!!" but the couch kid is just sitting there with a default facial expression, he's not the one doing that. And at 10:31 that same 3rd kid says "OH MY GOD!!!" and that's when the brother says quiet down and you can see the couch kid turn to look.

So my guess is there's a 3rd little kid and he's goofing around near the older brother's legs as he's fiddling with the camera THEN goes to sit in front of the TV to get play-wrestled with the older brother.

It doesn't change anything really, I just wanted to draw attention to it incase it triggers anything for anyone else.

So far we can conclude that this family has 3 boys and a Dad who leaves the older one to look after them while he's out (looks like daytime so maybe he's at work? That would make it a weekday but then why aren't any of the kids at school? That would make it more likely to be on a weekend...but the little one knowing when Dad is coming home makes sense during the week where Dad would be on say a 9-5 schedule, how would the kid know when Dad is coming home if Dad left on a weekend? Could just be guessing at when Dad is coming back from picking up groceries or something, can't say for sure, just stuff to think about.

Does Robert Robinson have kids? Was he the guy with the YouTube channel that was complaining about being divorced and missing his kids? I only glanced at that stuff so don't draw conclusions on that unless you know for sure, but if it WAS him maybe these are his last vids with his kids that he saved before a divorce or prison or something? I don't know the whole Robert/scatfreak/etc story so someone else with a better understanding of him chime in here.

There's good shots of the house they're in through the video and here's a bunch of personal pics of Robert (go through the whole thread), maybe that bathtub one is in here? Everyone on this forum seems to fucking HATE him:

http://somethingsensitive.com/index.php?topic=737.600 http://archive.is/nVqMU

wtf is this video by Rob: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZuQu_Z8SXU

"casiodarkmoon 2" channel...he confesses he didn't get kicked out of his house (and live in a tent apparently?) which I guess was a story he made up for his old forums he hung out on (those somethingsensitive ones)?

Here's a fucking million pics (2911 pages worth, he takes more selfies than an 18yo girl (and has someone taking pics of him but also shows a tripod in one pic so he has a tripod that he might be setting up everywhere)) of him and his life from 2011 onward:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/casiocasiocasio/page2910

Doesn't look like he's even CAPABLE of having a house let alone a clean one let alone taking care of 3 boys. Skimming through the album he's been living in this shithole too long to have had a house with kids...maybe he had a girlfriend and the couch kid stumbling on his words when he says "Mom--Dad is coming home soon" was going to say "Mom's boyfriend"? Like maybe those are his girlfriend's kids? Is that reaching? I have no fucking clue.

On the very last page of that flickr gallery he has teeth and the 2nd last page (2910) at the bottom he shows close-ups of the holes in his gums where his teeth were and a bunch of bloody paper towels...he must've just got them pulled? That would've been 2011. No idea if that helps with anything.

What the fuck even is this:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/casiocasiocasio/12072019275/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/casiocasiocasio/12091592224/

I don't even know what I'm looking for anymore there's too much fuck this guy and fuck all of this I need a drink keep digging everyone...that kid's screams on Fatherhood and Each don't sound like acting and at some point an adult was participating in whatever the fuck that whole thing was. Whether these are the boys are not doesn't mean it's not worth looking at and Robert's voice just doesn't sound like the one in Fatherhood. That Podesta comparison is damn close and the strobe lights match CPP and we know they know how to do construction etc (wouldn't be hard to build a shower somewhere in CPP and you hear music in the background either a band playing or booming music).

I just don't see this being something that should keep us from continuing to dig into whatever the fuck we've run into.

Also I'm skeptical about this whole "the original audio's been edited and stuff added to it" etc thing some people are trying to push now...some of us were here grabbing the videos when they were first sitting in that directory, it's not like we can't compare audio if someone thinks there's specifically some part that wasn't in the original audio. None of the people who say the audio has been edited seems to actually say exactly what was added/removed at what time-stamps etc for us to compare...and even then we can refer to the SilvaGunner analysis video on YouTube which has Each in it to confirm that Each hasn't been altered.

So if you think the audio's been altered, tell us where and what so we can compare against the originals. Otherwise that's coming off a little suspicious...

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[–] GeorgeT 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Why doesn't Podesta tell us that. I want the voice analyzer to tell us that. Screams were too real, children cannot act!!!!!! Can't fool me. Show us the voice analyzer graphs. Voices sound too similar.

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[–] Sheilaaliens [S] 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

The kid was NOT acting whatsoever. That much is true

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[–] organic1 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Podesta is a coward. He hasn't commented on anything in regards to his emails, so he's certainly not going to discuss this.

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[–] redpilledtoo007 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I too do not believe that this terror is fake.

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[–] wincraft71 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

@GeorgeT I've tagged you in this before I think but if you haven't seen it there is a voice analysis here that compares, hoping somebody can analyze and put it on graphs

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[–] ArcherMcTaco 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

We don't know if they are alive..... It is just a video.... It is weird as fuck though

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[–] organic1 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

For sure! After researching all this stuff, I love my parents even more. Just the hell these kids are being put through...

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[–] Hermesthriceborn 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I'm not necessarily convinced that everything is all unicorns and rainbows now, especially that this theory is simply riding on a hunch that they are the same children. Regardless, I appreciate the effort and perspective.

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[–] DeathToMasons 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago  (edited ago)

We know that the lighting and chamber looks the same as in the CPP basement. We know the voice sound similar to Skippy, I mean John. We know the child called him John. Yet you think this is unrelated. For now, I say this material belongs here. The child was not acting. This I am sure of. That site used a tormented child for what reason? This material belongs here, Podesta or not.

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[–] GeorgeT 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Child calls him skippy as well as John. Let's see.....Inspector Cluseu may give us leads....

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[–] Sheilaaliens [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I agree the child deserves to be helped regardless of who his abuser is/was. That's why I reported this, hope others will too because more reports might make them actually take a look at it.

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[–] jv209 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

we have zero facts on this stuff. that's all we know. everything is pure speculation. I agree with you that the material needs to be fully investigated/debunked before anyone says it doesn't belong here though.

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[–] SluggishJ 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Is anyone looking into Gary lee munroe? The guy who is holysagemunroe on tumblr. Brings up worldcorp as being owned by him, pictures from worldcorp Facebook page include Gary lee munroe, video from shady worldcorp website features piss toilet guy that looks similar to Gary lee munroe.

That connection isn't solid necessarily; worldcorp is a generic enough sounding name. But I've spent a lot of time looking into this guy and there is some very weird shit regarding him, his claims, affiliation with ULC, and mention of child trafficking via adoption agencies. I even tied an adoption agency in Ohio (50 miles or so east of the one that was just raided by FBI) apparently involved in this based off of a name he mentioned in his ramblings. It may have been Jamie Waller, but I can't confirm because I'm on a tablet currently my away from my desk.

What's going on with him is a rabbit hole in and of itself and I have no idea what to make of it yet, but I can't get the mentions of adoption agencies and child trafficking he's made out of my head.

Edit: another weird piece I wanted to mention is his claims of kids being microchipped. I found an article about exactly that, how a sex trafficking victim upon rescue was found to be implanted with the same exact type of chip he mentioned in his ramblings. Huh.

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[–] SayWhatNOWAY 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

No way was that kid, in the shower a teen!

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[–] Sheilaaliens [S] 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

No. He was like 8 years old. But you could HEAR his TEEN BROTHER (I'm assuming his brother) in the background yelling for the dad to stop abusing the little one. The kid in the alive & well video appears to be the same kid being abused, maybe a tad bit older. Listen to the squeals, they sound the same.

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[–] Bluebirdsolitude 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Looked more like a 3-4 yr old to me, from the profile of the child"s body. I have 6 kids. Kids internal organs are adult size by the time they are 3-4, thats why their abdomen is rounded out because their body has not caught up with their organs. I dont think he was anywhere close to 8.

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[–] wehaveyouremails 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Could you time-stamp exactly when you hear the older brother yelling to stop and in which video? I don't remember hearing that but I wasn't listening for it...it would be great to have an exact point and some words to listen for just to confirm thanks!

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