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[–] David_Seaman 8 points 17 points (+25|-8) ago 

The message to you voat would not let me send, due to "insufficient points."

You're showing your colors here. Why are you stirring up trouble and division, RATHER THAN LEAVING UP MY POST SO I CAN DEFEND MYSELF, which violated no user's privacy nor did it violate anything. I have confirmed my identity beyond any reasonable doubt.

UNFAIR.

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[–] sawn 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Do you ever stop whining?

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[–] wecanhelp [M] 6 points 5 points (+11|-6) ago  (edited ago)

The message to you voat would not let me send, due to "insufficient points."

Seriously? And you would still screenshot it and reference it in a tweet that is to criticize a mod's reaction whom you, as it turns out, haven't even contacted? I think you are showing your true colors here, David, and this is coming from someone who had supported and defended you before against attacks by the community.

...which violated no user's privacy nor did it violate anything.

Except for the Submission Requirements, a.k.a. the rules of this subverse that we equally judge every single submission against, and which you apparently didn't bother to read.

I have confirmed my identity beyond any reasonable doubt.

No, you haven't. As @Millennial_Falcon has said, all it would have taken is a link to your tweet confirming your identity, but you haven't provided any links whatsoever. Your post, without a single link pointing to anything, is an instant delete for any mod really, as it is guaranteed to violate either rule 2 or rule 4 regardless of its content.

I must say your behavior recently has been beyond suspicious.

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[–] gangpressorliber 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Jackasery!

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[–] V____Z 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Sorry, you can claim to be unbiased with regard to David, but I have seen you delete posts that linked to his videos, based on the rule that everything needs to be explained, whilst leaving non-David-related posts up that violated the same rule - and I mean these posts were submitted at the same time, roughly, so I have to assume there was some bias. Though this is not possible for me to prove.

MF told David he needed to prove who he was in order for his post to stand. Then goalposts changed.

I posted proof that was required, and that was deleted too, by MF himself, which is truly bad form since there is a conflict of interest (he was a subject of the video).

Voat is going to quickly be outed as compromised unless you all pretend to be unbiased. None of us are, but you've got to fake it a little bit better.

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[–] Millennial_Falcon [S, M] 6 points 4 points (+10|-6) ago  (edited ago)

You're showing your colors here. Why are you stirring up trouble and division

Pot calling the kettle black. Your Tweet calling us "unfair" and trying to make us look biased against you was completely unnecessary. All you had to do was reply to me in a comment (no direct message necessary). I also pinged you after I saw your tweets, and asked you to repost, but you still haven't. Issue a retraction tweet concerning your "voat mods being unfair" tweet, and we'll be all good (I will delete this post and write a neutral post about our misunderstanding). And please repost your post.

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[–] Thrash57 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Seaman is right, he did confirm the post was From him on his twitter. And here on Voat where we are against censorship, the man has a right to defend himself if you are going to let post after post attack him.

Edit: whether or not you believe he is a shill, does not mean he cant defend himself. He does have a job that relies on the veracity of his claims, and he should be allowed to defend both his career and his claims.

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[–] witch_doctor1 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago 

Nope...I agree with David...you delete two threads when it would have been so easy to check his twitter feed and now you want him to submit a 3rd thread? Unfair was a fair way to describe it.

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[–] sawn 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Welcome to David Seaman. As everyone who's ever worked with him will tell you, it only gets worse.

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[–] NoBS 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Quote: Pot calling the kettle black. Your Tweet calling me "unfair" was completely unnecessary." end quote Millennial Flake. You are acting like a spoiled child having a temper tantrum. Sometimes the truth just plain sucks. Have a nice day.

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[–] gangpressorliber 4 points 3 points (+7|-4) ago 

THATS THE WAY IT IS AROUND HERE YOU GOTTA TAKE IT UP THE BUTT FOR AWHILE BEFORE YOU CAN BE A BIG MAN LIKE FALCON AND DISH IT OUT TO OTHERS!! LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Beginning to wonder about the rules myself. did they come from color coded halls or something......

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[–] NoBS 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Falcon's ass, and does it stink!

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[–] David_Seaman 4 points 11 points (+15|-4) ago 

I've confirmed that post was me, from my Twitter.

I submitted it a second time, it was deleted by you, a second time.

Most of the posts here do not require a photo identification for them to remain up, correct? Why must mine?

Someone published a baseless character attack against me, which seems to be designed to distract and divide. Why did you leave it up for a day, where many people saw it, yet my posts were deleted shortly after posting them?

I've uploaded my views on this here- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuJs3tBDKqI

You're not moderating this community well.

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[–] BasedLeaf 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

I don't know where you stand David, but armyseer's post on you in /v/pizzagateshills was pretty thorough and pretty damning.

Why are you endorsing a gold company owned by Soros, for example?

Not good David.

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[–] VictorSteinerDavion 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Armyseer banned me from somewhere for being a CTR shill, they are not working with a fully functioning brain cell.

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[–] gangpressorliber 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

NOT GOOD DAVID NOT GOOD!

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[–] PizzaGate711 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

ARMYSEER IS A SHILLLLL.

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[–] dougG 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago  (edited ago)

David, with all due respect, why don't you get a real job like the rest of us and stop whoring out Pizzagate on You Tube for Ad Sense dollars. And if you are going to continue to do so, BRING SOMETHING TO THE TABLE! Do some research and real journalism to forward our cause rather than just repeating research done by others. If its not that its all complaining and whining. You're being lazy, you have a big audience, do some real work, be a revolutionary and help us change the world and put some fuckers in cuffs!

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[–] sugarskull 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

This!!

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[–] fuckMoloch 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

no not this, I like not having to shift through mountains of bs, while I found the mandella effect and pizzagategear collab sketchy most of what he does is good.

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[–] wecanhelp [M] 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I'm saying this again: you have not confirmed your identity in a way that would have been instantly verifiable by a moderator or any reader really. All it would have taken is a link to your tweet in question. We can't make exceptions to the rules, even if you're David Seaman. If we did, then we wouldn't be moderating this community well.

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[–] VictorSteinerDavion 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago  (edited ago)

You're not moderating this community well.

Sure, I can wear that. Do you have any proposals for structural improvement?

Most of the posts here do not require a photo identification for them to remain up, correct? Why must mine?

I can understand why this would be frustrating, but due to the nature of voat allowing any username to be claimed by anyone; would you prefer we let any monkey using your user name post? possibly misrepresenting you and damaging your cause?.
Another user writing a post critical of you can be addressed, and should be, both in that thread and with it's own post.
I'm unaware if you contacted any of the moderation team to ask what's the best way to rebut and ensure it gets the attention of the community?

yet my posts were deleted shortly after posting them?

Follow the rules, no exceptions. If in doubt, contact me directly and we'll sort something out.

designed to distract and divide

This has been happening from the beginning, and all of the mod team have long been targets for attack, here and in real life. We're also a very small team for a very big topic and it's very hard to keep a lid on the attack campaigns from very well funded agencies.

baseless character attack against me

How about we collectively use this platform to refute that attack? You're welcome to post a refutation and link it to any other web location (twitter/youtube etc) if this medium is insufficient to communicate your message.

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[–] M420BI 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

He's doing this because it helps him get more attention. SJW handbook, play the victim for attention.

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[–] nowiknow 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

agreed. Voat mods did nothing but follow rules. David needs to link his verification. Tweeting is not enough– You need to link the tweet David lmao. It's not up to mods to search for it. And also, linking verification proves to readers its him too. I don't want to search for the verification, he must link it.

david only attracts people who like sensational headlines. which is why they wont dig deeper to understand that the mods were just following rules. they will only agree with seaman claiming censorship.

like someone else said, David is 80% fluff, 20% meat.

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[–] OhRutherfordBehave 9 points 6 points (+15|-9) ago 

Oh fuck you Falcon. All you've done is delete my posts. STFU

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[–] Millennial_Falcon [S] 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Stop forum sliding. If your post breaks the rules, it will get deleted. It's not that hard to follow the rules.

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[–] SeamanModsFakeWar 4 points 2 points (+6|-4) ago  (edited ago)

The rules are arbitrary. Sometimes things get deleted because "this has been discussed" (not written anywhere as a rule). Sometimes not.

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[–] Dressage2 6 points -1 points (+5|-6) ago 

Upvoat!! Best today!

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[–] SeamanModsFakeWar 7 points -2 points (+5|-7) ago 

Upvoat

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[–] stellarcorpse 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

David Seaman is a narcissistic drama queen. Also a fraud.

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[–] sugarskull 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Another winner!!

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[–] witch_doctor1 6 points 5 points (+11|-6) ago  (edited ago)

Millenial_Falcon, you are the only one smearing voat...and yes, you did let a lengthy attack post with multiple mysterious upvotes overnight stand while immediately deleting David's threads without bothering to check his Twitter feed that I linked to while he was simultaneously using Twitter...that is verification.

David is a very public PG figure and is not familiar with the posting rules...it was clearly him and you could have verified that within about 2.5 seconds had you wanted to. What's your beef with David? And why are you singlehandedly making the forum you moderate look bad in a very public manner? How did your heavy handed modding benefit this forum or the PG cause?

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[–] 23eulogy23 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

If david seaman is such a prominent member of the PG community why does he not even have an account here until today?

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[–] NoBS 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

FailCON is helping expose just how corrupt VOAT really is. Even bad news is useful.

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[–] cantsleepawink 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Seaman isn't helping the reputation of voat either. A shame, as this should be a symbiotic relationship. Without a serious research community behind him like voat, all his protestations that 'Podesta is a pedophile' would amount to nought. I hope we get the bar room brawl over soon and get back to work.

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[–] V____Z 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

How on earth does Seaman have any impact on the reputation of Voat? He's never aligned himself with it until opening an account today.

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[–] V____Z 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

He is NOT the only mod with a beef against David.

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[–] PizzaGate711 6 points 5 points (+11|-6) ago 

You're tough on Seaman and it's clear in your communications that you dislike him. Job of Mod is to be impartial. Just saying.

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[–] Millennial_Falcon [S] 7 points 1 points (+8|-7) ago  (edited ago)

WTF are you talking about?

Edit: I find his tweet, and the way this played out rather suspicious, and it could just be a misunderstanding, but I have repeatedly offered him a way to de-escalate (as well as repeatedly pinging him before I posted this), and he instead chooses to escalate, saying I've "shown my true colors," and ignoring my peace offering.

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[–] PizzaGate711 6 points 1 points (+7|-6) ago 

David Seaman has immense support and respect in the global pizzagate community. Best not to fight with the big league. Not good for Voat. If I owned Voat I wouldn't want you fighting with David Seaman. Take a break. You sound like you need it.

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[–] gangpressorliber 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

BOOOO!!! BOOO!!!!!

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[–] NoBS 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

The Mod has emotional baggage and is a conflict of interest. The interest is not making it personal. Failcon is why the medium is compromised.

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[–] gangpressorliber 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This is are real Ego Mashup here....

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