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[–] pizzagater99 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

URGENT: Add a reference to the comments on this 2009 article by "Carole Fan", which occured 8 years ago pre-pizzagate accusing Alefantis of disgusting behaviour

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/food/article/13037971/how-are-bucks-fishing-camping-and-comet-ping-pong-faring

"Working with artists is always an intense experience and there is always two sides to every story. I happen to know Carole's side and it would make those dining on the new food choke and feel nauseous. I will only say that if they knew what really happened, they like me would no longer dine at either establishment."

There's also suggestions online that he raped Carole's son when he was 17-18, please look into it

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[–] reasonedandinformed 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

At the start of this article:

I had called Greenwood for an innocuous little column about what ingredients—fruit, vegetable, or protein—chefs would alter if they had the power to manipulate genetics. Greenwood returned my call with a question for me: “Are you a man or a boy?”

Why would she ask this except out of a concern that the reporter is a young boy??

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[–] AreWeSure 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

She is actually challenging the reporter's masculinity. Note that he describes this as a possibly hostile question.

“Are you a man or a boy?”

I never did understand the inquiry, or its context, but I obviously got a straight shot of that famous Greenwood eccentricity. Or force of personality. Or hostility. Whatever you want to call it. It was just another facet of the same demanding soul who battled with bloggers over photographing her food at Buck’s Fishing & Camping, refused diners’ requests for substitutions, and viewed herself more like Jackson Pollock than kitchen poissonier.

See my comment above about her not being a pushover which makes me doubt she reported a sexual assault to police that was ignored.

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[–] abortionburger [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Please post this same comment to the article itself. You and @pizzagater99 are definitely on to something.

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[–] abortionburger [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Thanks!

the Dylan allegation is already there. I will read that article and cite it if it backs up the original story.

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[–] delivery1 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Altogether this seems quite credible with the victim showing the emails between him and Alefantis, the timeline checking with the departure of Greenwood from Comet Ping Pong and the Reddit thread that was censored.

Now when you consider all the stuff that has been revealed in the past two months and there has been plenty (disturbing Instagram photos of children and the shady comments, threathening of the guy who contacted him via FB, and the lies told to the press) this puts Alefantis in extremely bad light.

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[–] abortionburger [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Everything about this dude struck me as legit from the first few minutes of the post. I'm glad that I was able to completely validate his backstory because it put my skeptical husband's mind at ease.

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[–] ploppy 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I bet the mods delete this for some bullshit reason

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[–] za-throwaway 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

did you really need to show a username "abortionburger" - gross. choose something that makes you look at least semi credible?

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[–] abortionburger [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

listen. i pay the price for my 8/9 year old username choice ALL OF THE TIME! lol

[–] [deleted] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

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[–] abortionburger [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

i'm a girl!

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[–] DL4L 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Thank you for posting this. I realize it has the potential to be an important piece in the puzzle, though with the layers of anonymity and our need to rely on a single person as a source for verification of the alleged victim's identity, it occurred to me that this type of angle, at least when sharing with skeptics, could do more harm than good. There is what we believe is true, what we know is true, and what we can prove in court. (Someone else said that long before me, props to them.) You may consider adding 'alleged' to the post title? Think about a skeptic coming to this site to check it out and seeing him/her validate their own bias with posts such as this. I know that ritual abuse and child trafficking is occurring on a global scale. The credibility of this particular part (AMA) of the pizzagate story has not yet reached my threshold for even belief. Thank you for your hard work and for bringing this information forward.

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[–] abortionburger [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

changed the title of the article. Cant change the title of the post - I agree with your assessment.

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[–] DL4L 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thank you for the consideration, greatly appreciated. And greatly respect your contribution. Keep at it mate.

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[–] Mommyplayer571 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

So many Pedo rapes aren't reported until the statute of limitations runs out. I'll bet the perp in this case is still liable. Hope he finds the strength to file a suit. There are likely many victims. The Boy Scouts gets off on the statute of limitations in many states.

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[–] eyeVoated 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The truth has no statute of limitations. Fuck the court system.

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[–] crystalclearme 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I thought in "some" places - and I'm sorry I can't remember exactly where, the statue of limitations regarding sexual abuse of children was raised to the age of 50 of the victim. This young man I hope is getting support and treatment for his PTSD. Certainly coming forward could be part of his healing, moving from surviving to thriving and likely protecting so many others

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[–] abortionburger [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

agreed.

Truth is like a number line with zero being the sum of all truth and all equivalent lies.

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[–] FriesischShipping 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

DC they made it long for blackmail purposes: 15 years.

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[–] abortionburger [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

great to know. i've been in touch with the OP who says that James has tracked him down :(

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[–] abortionburger [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This is my first article. Any constructive criticism would be greatly appreciated.

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[–] AreWeSure 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Hi, in the emails, .......edited

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[–] abortionburger [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yes, which was how I tracked down his identity. He really does wish to remain anonymous though, so maybe consider editing your comment. I purposely did not state how I got his information, for privacy's sake.

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[–] redditsuckz 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Carol mentions Dylan stayed with James Alefantis at his house...

A chat with Carol Greenwood AKA Childballad;

*One summer, the summer we turned Greenwood into Buck's Fishing & Camping, Dylan and I stayed with James and David at their grand house in Georgetown. The days were hot and the sky was always a shimmering undying blue. It never ever rained. *

http://archive.is/Gr7CT

Carole Wagner Greenwood work history;

Executive Chef Comet Ping PongWashington, DC, US Jul. 2005 to May. 2010 (4 years and 10 months) Role & Tasks:

founder, designer and executive chef of this farm to table pizza restaurant. Awards: food network named 'the smoky' (smoked mozzarella, smoked mushrooms, smoked bacon, roasted onions and garlic), a brainchild pizza of greenwood's , "best pizza in DC." Executive Chef Buck's Fishing & CampingWashington, DC, US Jan. 2000 to May. 2009 (9 years and 4 months) Role & Tasks:

founder, owner and executive chef of this longtime farm to table restaurant. Created concept and designed restaurant, interiors, all menus and wine list.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170119163629/https://culinaryagents.com/talents/28115-carole-wagner-greenwood

http://imgur.com/a/Ib3Re

Her son Dylan Greenwood;

http://archive.is/mr2ua

http://archive.is/PXhRW

http://archive.is/3W5SW

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