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[–] vastrightwing 2 points 67 points (+69|-2) ago 

Reddit is owned by the oligarchy's Conde Nast. Why is anyone surprised? Simply move away from that platform (as I did). It will whither away. It's been around long enough. It's time is over.

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[–] el_oh_el 0 points 50 points (+50|-0) ago 

I think there is value in forcing them into a coverup that we can document. We should continue to do so, in my opinion. But generally leaving Reddit behind is also a good thing as you said.

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[–] Melitica 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

I agree. Forcing them to scrub is the best way. Especially if it inconveniences non-pizzagate users. Some will at least look to see what they are deleting and what is seen cannot be unseen.

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[–] vastrightwing 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

Here, you are preaching to the choir. The reddit platform is waking up to the fact that it is only there to promote the official narrative. People are leaving. FakeBook and twitter as well. I'm off all of those platforms. Soon they will be home to a homogeneous hive of like minded sheep.

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[–] Neverhillary1030 [S] 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

YOu would never have known tho unless i was scrub watching. So yes we have to keep an eye on reddit for their fuckups

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[–] tikwid 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I think you're right. Shadow organizations work best when they're invisible. The more they fight this, the more attention they are going to draw to themselves.

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[–] Atlantean120 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

I've barely opened Reddit since I joined Voat. This is much more worthwhile.

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[–] JastheMace 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

I left Reddit a couple of years ago when they were caught editing people's negative, truthful comments about the crimes Israel commits against children.

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[–] Chimerarose 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yep, I ditched Reddit a long time ago. this is my home now

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[–] Orange_Circle 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Also owned by the same company that owns a lot of local newspapers, Advance Publications. That's why so many or the local newspapers are forbidden to cover it.

The Birmingham News, New Orleans Times Picayune.

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[–] wellington33 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Why threads like this (wich i upvoted too), has more attention than real investigation threads? I'm not talking only aobut my thread, but a lot more. GUYS, UPVOTE THE INVESTIGATIONS SO THEY LEAD THE COMUNNITY SOMEWHERE. This has 400 upvotes, real investigations get only a hundred...

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[–] RedGreenAlliance 0 points 55 points (+55|-0) ago 

The mass hysteria is kind of hilarious, if it wasn't so disturbing. They must know it looks extremely odd, a massive red flag, to censor so heavily on this one specific topic. But they've got orders. They must censor. However OTT, however obvious the coercion, however obvious the millions being spent to suppress.

AND THAT'S HOW WE KNOW ITS REAL

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[–] Snotface 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It's such a victory on its own. They know people will think it's odd that they've removed it, but they must have weighed that against people becoming informed on it, and they've deemed it damage control.

They are hurting. And we are winning.

TASTES FUCKING GOOD!!

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[–] CuckSlap 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Kind of reminds me of the gamergate censorship. The cover-up is the biggest crime.

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[–] RedGreenAlliance 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'm in the UK and don't do gaming so I am only slightly aware of that. It's the modern equivalent of a long observed 'tell'. "The lady doth protest too much, methinks" (Hamlet, Shakespeare)

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[–] Womb_Raider 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

"Dont be evil" - Google ... once upon a time, this was their motto. Look at them now.

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[–] ravensedgesom 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thank you for that. Yeah google is set to take over unless there is a major shift towards alternative platforms.

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[–] falseflagthesenuts 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You mean you didn't like your Orwellian Glass -- oops -- Google Glass?

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[–] strix-varia 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I avoid it at all costs, same with the rest of the bunk, fb , twatter, the list is growing.

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[–] peatsagayt 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

What does this mean for all the 9/11, Sandy Hook, Boston bombing, etc. conspiracies? Were they just so off base that they weren't worth censoring? Unbelievable by the masses? Too hard to point fingers at individuals? Just struck me as odd, the all out attack on PG compared to other seemingly larger, more damning conspiracies that have mountains of tangible evidence i.e. 9/11, when this one that is still struggling to find that crucial puzzle piece. Must be close....good work everyone.

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[–] GbannedbyLGBT 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Pizzagate broke too big too fast.

The others started out small and could be controlled early on. They're conspiracy nuts, don't listen to them, they're crazy!

This time they didn't have time to craft their messaging, wikileaks put something into the mainstream that noone had heard of. There was no way to prepare people to dismiss it.

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[–] samhara 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Exactly

There was a surprise element. It was out of control .

Also, people have been acclimated over the years to believe whatever ridiculous "Roger Rabbit" story they are told. So the other "events" which were not what they were told - they never noticed [and still don't]. They are in a form of trance or sleep.

They trust the Mass Media and it is very hard to let go of that - since the implications are frightening and ugly. So this revelation about the "Pizza" was accompanied by the shock of the Mass Media getting it so wrong about Trump / Hillary.. So possibly the "shock" slightly opened people's mind for a fraction of a second? As would a slap for someone who is half - asleep?

I know a relative of mine lost her faith in the news after this election. She told me, "It's all lies" and she is very "silent majority" and socially conservative.

Also, you can't discredit the long hard and detailed work people have been doing for years on end showing how these other events are not what the society is told.

People may reach a threshold of awareness, a liminal point, where they finally start to become aware of what is really going on. And a lot of work and time, by amateurs, has been put into getting that to happen.

If you pull at one thread the whole "sweater" starts to come apart. When the public loses it trust in their "trusted advisors" there is no putting the things which escape, back into the box.

The desperation that is shown by what we see as the mainstream "controllers" could also be a function of the sub-set of perps who are involved with this.. I've heard before they are very freaky [as you can imagine] and many researchers will not go into this subject because there is a much greater likelihood you will be killed for it, or lose a relative, or have a bad accident, et cetera..

My thought is that this clique is used to :

  1. having their lives threatened

  2. seeing people tortured, murdered, mocked, vilified, and dismembered, at close quarters, in front of themselves, maybe since their own childhood.

  3. They are used to kidnapping and murdering people themselves.

  4. Their judgment might be slightly, but significantly poor [as is seen on the far end of the psychopath spectrum disorder] cf. "The Mask of Sanity" Cleckley - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mask_of_Sanity- http://www.cix.co.uk/~klockstone/sanity_1.pdf - The arrogance, which most often accompanies psychopathology, will get in the way of their judgment, according to the case histories of Cleckley.

So for all these reasons they are likely "cold - blooded" about their actions? And feel that to act in any way that they want, is just the "way it is?"

The far - end on the psychopath spectrum are known for regularly making serious errors of judgment, to violently despise authority of any kind - to the point it could interfere with their normal life.

In general, people are supposed to be tested for this by using something like the "Minnesota Multiple Inventory Personality Test" http://psychcentral.com/lib/minnesota-multiphasic-personality-inventory-mmpi/ before being put in any positions of authority.

Therefore such people would see this investigation as something attempting to "cramp their style" and they would "rebel" against any exposure and fight back, rather than just go into hiding? [as we see with the boldness of Aleph.. - how he didn't really take down the videos he made, right away; when he could have.]

They also are nonsensically proud of their deeds and often like to flaunt them!

In the same way, the subset of criminals in this clique, will rashly implicate themselves [Aleph's confession on the telephone] or order the obvious give-away ["take - down" the YouTube immediately"] because of their character?

Other perps' groups - yes they take the videos down. They fix it so only 10 people see it or so it looks like only 10 see it.. That's been going on for years and years with YouTube.. As I said they also fix the up and down votes.

But the others, who monitored other searchers after facts, who were involved directly with overseeing the research on the other scams, to make sure nothing gets anywhere; perhaps they are a more stable bunch? They wait a little longer so as not to make it so obvious?

Neither Alef nor Podesta; come off as stable in the slightest way.

The others are likely more along the lines of "compensated psychopath" which Cleckley describes.

You are dealing with real psychopaths -serious ones, when you get toward the outer edges of the specturm.

If anyone has the time I highly recommend the Cleckley book; which is a free .pdf @ the above link...

Think of the "Rosemary's Baby" "story: What did the evil coven do in order to insure the guy who sold-out got the job he desired? They blinded the actor who initially got the part. They didn't just get the rival to break a leg, which would've been enough?

That is the caliber we are dealing with.

Think of the famous searcher after political facts: Mae Brussell..? When did spooky people move across the street, start to watch her, and when did she quickly come down with fast - growing cancer [after already losing her daughter to a car accident] ?

As soon as she started to report on the Satanic Pedo ring at the Presidio Army Base.

She had been working for years the conspiracy beat:

http://feralhouse.com/the-essential-mae-brussell/ "The Essential Mae Brussell" Feral Press.

People who research other things will not research this.

When did I get my Forum vandalized and taken down, leaving me with a veiled warning?.. after posting for years on all large State Crimes?.. after "Pizzagate" and linking my work over to this sub.

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[–] Fateswebb 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Exactly, if you think about it... 9/11 was planned ahead of time, sandy hook as well. They had counter ops ready before it even happened and have controlled the narrative the entire time simply because it's their show and they wrote the script. With this, isn't not fake..... it's real, they didn't make it up, and plan for it to happen, so they aren't prepared to psyop the world into believing it's fake. Also, while sandy hook was about children, it wasn't about making them slaves and other horrible stuff so it's easy to pass off, actually if you believe the children were murdered then you're on the right side of morality so why question that? But with this you have to basically put your own morality on the line and tell people that children are not being abused. That's tough even for the most robust of shills and the most brainwashed of sheeple! What if you're wrong? Then you're a complete fucking asshole because you tossed aside children that were being raped, so it is much easier for people to get involved in this and they are much more disgusted by what they see. That's why the mind fuck they usually use will not work this time! Straight censorship is their only hope at this point.

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[–] el_oh_el 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I think those other cases are easier to maintain a patina of plausible deniability and have less loose ends/ are not tied to active ops. Now that I think about it that must be it pizzagate is not history, it's happening right now. Depending on their confidence they are either trying to safeguard an ongoing operation or desperately trying to buy any time they can to shift this operation or destroy evidence. Thing is, it seems like there is a HUGE investment that they would not be keen to just leave behind so I think they really do want to keep this going.

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[–] samhara 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yes, one reason they do not , desperately, want for this to come out is: they plan to continue.

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[–] asdfghjkl123456789 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Sandy Hook and Boston can be pawned off on patsies. Rogue CIA agent or something.

Pizzagate is dangerous because it goes directly to the heart of their power structure. Blackmailed perverts are how the Shadow Government controls the public government. Break that down, and the whole system is threatened.

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[–] drj2 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Because only small few were involved in those, there must be a very large amount of people involved in pizza.

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[–] Ciscogeek 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Just think. We're at the frontlines of history right now.

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[–] LawofTruth 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

We're and we can't stop. The victor writes the next t chapter

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[–] pizzaequalspedo 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

It really is. I always thought these tech guys were huge on free speech, but apparently the ones that make it end up being pawns of the elite.

Not sure the psychology of it all...

I wonder if the government is helping pick winners and losers as to which technology platforms make it, based on how friendly they are or how much control they can exert.

Obviously the MSM is totally in the tank for the elites, and that is nothing new.

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[–] Marthvedderette 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Have you not learned anything from pizzagate? You only get the governments money, when you play ball. It appears "playing ball" means that the government has control over you, through blackmail. They find out your skeletons, then they exploit them, either because the person is secretly gay, secretly a pedophile, secretly has a wife who has a penis, secretly is a necrophiliac,on and on and on.

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[–] EyeOfHorus 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

How do Reddit, Twitter and FB make money?

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[–] FriesischShipping 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

CIA shoots your ass with a heart attack/cancer ice dart gun if you don't comply.

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[–] delivery1 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This massive censorship can be used as a further evidence why this scandal is real. Let's keep telling people about the extreme depths of the cover up, which has not occurred ever before in this scale. It will also get people thinking and talking about the subject, and like a rolling snowball, the scandal will gain greater coverage.

Streissand effect, spread the word, let's turn censorship against themselves.

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[–] GizaDog 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

THIS IS NOT A DRILL: BREAKING NEWS: NEVER CAPS! PLEASE

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[–] Marthvedderette 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Seriously. I didn't know that we have drills.

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[–] Snotface 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Yeah man, I've missed all th practices

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[–] Fateswebb 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Oh man good I need to make a hole. Do we have drill bits as well?

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[–] witch_doctor1 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This is an underrated comment. I chortled. May steal it and claim it as my own in the future.

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[–] SexyLoverBoy 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The click bait is pretty heavy on this one.

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[–] HolyMoly0 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Fo real do

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[–] 7683002? 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Forget Reddit.

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[–] smokratez 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Sure. After we kill it first though.

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[–] phlux 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

We should do spirit commenting -- We will mix the karma from day-old accounts with the TCP packets used to make the comments, then sacrifice them to M010CH.py to capture their reddit gold!

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[–] anonddb 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

what is reddit?

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