Pizzagate Subverse Network
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For Newcomers
Submission Rules
See also "subverse best practices"
Policy on linking dangerous research
1: Relevance: Posts must be directly relevant to investigation of Pizzagate: the sexual/physical abuse and/or murder of children by elites, child trafficking organized by elites, and/or cover-up of these activities and/or the protection/assistance provided to the people who engage in said activities. See definition of Pizzagate and examples of relevant posts.
2: Empiricism: EACH factual claim that is not common knowledge must be sourced with a link. If you ask a question: Explain what led to your question and provide sources. If you present opinion/argument, connect your dots and provide sources for them. Avoid baseless speculation. ALL posts must include at least one link.
3: Clarity: All titles must adequately describe post content and must establish direct relevance to pizzagate. EACH link in your post must include a description of content and how the link relates to the post (except when markup is used to embed links in the specific text they support).
4: Meta submissions and general discussion submissions without sources will be removed. Please submit indirectly relevant posts to /v/pizzagatewhatever and unsourced questions to /v/AskPizzagate. Sourced activism / publicity posts and memes are allowed. Posts about the subverse itself go to /v/pizzagatemods.
5: You must label NSFW posts (“Not safe for work”; for example gore, nudity etc.) as such when submitting.
6: No Link Posts -- Only editable submissions made with the "Discuss" button are allowed. "Link" submissions have been banned by the community for the reasons described here. Link posts will be immediately removed.
Adspam, illegal content, and personal info about Voat subscribers will be removed, and the offender will be banned.
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[–] Vindicator [M] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Doolord, scroll through posts that have been removed from this sub (link at bottom of sidebar). There has been no evidence Alefantis' family is involved in child trafficking, which is why those posts were removed. They are in there, though. If you find conclusive evidence it is likely they are involved, please make a research post as described in the sidebar.
Now, I need to remove this post because it doesn't fulfill the submission guidelines for v/pizzagate. You can repost it in v/askpizzagate or v/pizzagatewhatever if you like. Removing per Rules 1, 2 and 4. Have a great week.
[–] doolord [S] ago
For fucks sake, nobody goes there. These strict guidelines aren't doing anything but stifling discussion. If I put this in v/askpizzagate or v/pizzagatewhatever how many people are really going to see it and respond? v/pizzagate has the most reach, and as of now, all these other tiny subverses in the Pizzagate network are pathetic ways of getting what you have to say about things out there and in the open so others can contribute their findings to the topic of the post. v/pizzagatewhatever has only 359 subscribers, and v/askpizzagate has even less. Deleting posts like this are hurting this investigation.
[–] Criticalthinker615 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I have seen no proof he existed before college
[–] Stukov ago
That's because the CIA recruits people before they go to college (I knew someone who was, confirmed recently when I looked up their Dyncorp pages and they were attached to Afghanistan and married someone in Military Intelligence). He was recruited, trained, and then went to college. There he likely made friends with people of interest to spy on them and practice his trade craft. Would be very interested to see what college clubs he was part of (say something like political science club or hey S&CB).
[–] eiggaMAD ago
What are viable reasons for this? Usually you can find anyone's past...
[–] Antonius ago
Was JC sexually abused as a youth? Because the abused quite often become abusers.
[–] SecureYourSeats ago
https://www.docdroid.net/IRO6ywJ/ancestors-of-james-a-alefantis.pdf.html Is this any help?
[–] doolord [S] ago
This is great! Thanks
[–] LoPhatt ago
According to Yoichi Shimatsu, his paternal grandfather's name was Raptotasios. How we got from there to Alefantis is a mystery. I don't know his father's name but someone mentioned that they lived in Delaware. It should be easy to find his mother's name. Unless she remarried I don't know where "Alefantis" came from or when.
[–] doolord [S] ago
His paternal Great grandfather according to this.