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[–] stillinit 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

Why does this have so many upvotes? That's not the symbol. Obvious shill is obvious.

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[–] S3m8o3 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Oh boy, I am glad to find your comment. I was looking at the pictures and was thinking the same. Having kids myself I have a ton of similar looking toys laying around.

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[–] Atatarkus 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Yep this seems like an attempt to shift focus to an innocent party to discredit us, yes the alefantis panda pictures are weird but that doesn't mean that they all of a sudden aren't a really popular animal. Also i agree that the spiral is not the boy lover logo it has to be a triangle spiral, this is a 'mistake' ive noticed a few people (shills i mean) make. For future reference the best indicator of involvement in this mess isnt some doodles on a webpage, its when you find out the person that runs the site has bondage pictures of children on their instagram.

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[–] Freemasonsrus 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Bridge too far for me.

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[–] moonlaundry ago 

Indeed. A spiral is a boy-lover logo.

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[–] forno_a_legna 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

Lmao. Stupid. These symbols are not exclusive to pedophiles. Lots of people use these symbols in art, business logos, etc. You're forcing connections that otherwise wouldn't exist. Too many cucks on voat are focusing on symbols because they're not intelligent enough to do actual research.

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[–] Don-Keyhote 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

Prove it with a statistical analysis.

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[–] truthseekertx [S] 5 points 1 point (+6|-5) ago 

This investigation has serious implications and children are at stake. Didn't think looking for symbols used amongst pedos from local kid stores in an area where there are possible pedos, would be considered "Not Intelligent", especially given whats at stake. I feel at this point, nothing should be left off the table. I respect your opinion though.

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[–] stillinit 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

You are either 12 or a shill.

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[–] reasonedandinformed 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Keep on it. If it is a dead end, some relief. Why would someone shoot down a possible lead? You are not providing proof but something that might merit a bit more attention.

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[–] forno_a_legna 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Your evidence is flimsy and has no backbone. Your "proof" of pedophile symbolism resembles nothing the FBI has released. Its plain garbage to say the least.

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[–] truthseekertx [S] 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

If these guys have control of all these areas. Then is it possible the Smithsonian National Zoo on the same street as comet could have anything to do with it. I went to their site full pandas, but mind you...it is a zoo, so im sure coincidental. But if you go to the very bottom and click on the Panda to "Become a Member"...there is one thing that stands out. Again this could be nothing, but regarding how children are at stake, I think any lead is worth looking into.

It looks like you can pay your way to be a council member of the smithsonian zoo. You can pay either $2500, $5,000, or $10,000 to be a council member, but what strikes me as odd is that for the low end and middle package it states "The Panda House is not available for the Director Tour" itrs also not available for the $5000 package. You only get "The Giant Panda House" for their top package of $10,000. I'm not from DC, so not sure what this Giant Panda House is. Perhaps this is all legit and no connection, and if so I apologize. Again, since Kids are at stake, I think any leads are worth atleast paying a little attention to.

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[–] eiggaMAD 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I go to the DC zoo all the time. Pandas were my favorite animal growing up. The Giant Panda House (or area) has always been under construction or closed. It has different hours then the other exibits (not sure if this is listed on the website but there is a daily sign that has them at the actual zoo). I wrote it off as they were just weird about the panadas (I've only ever seen one there, haven't even gotten to see a baby even tho I try).

Also the zoo has a ton of coverage, the whole zoo it like that but the panda part, for as much as one would think they would "capitalize" on it, is very hard to find and cannot really be seen from any other pathways due to the heavy foliage.

I wouldn't normally consider all this suspect, except I had a fleeting feeling/thought when I initially saw the panda stuff but didn't think there was enough to give it credit.

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[–] truthseekertx [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I had seen on their site under the members section, where if you pay $10,000, you can be an executive member with access to the "Giant Panda House". Which none of the other memberships include. I just can't imagine why the zoos website would still offer $10k for a section that seems to be always under construction or closed, as you mentioned. But if they do have something going on here that is remotely related to this whole scam, then perhaps that explains why it is has always been under construction or closed to the public. Might be worth looking more into.

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[–] Investigate1999 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Are you willing to take photos for us in the DC area?

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[–] SturdyGal 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

The pandas are the most valued of the 'collection' and they have had a LOT of trouble breeding them in past years. So they want to minimize disturbance and exposure to the pandas and make a lot of money. This is normal. And it's a zoo. We'll do animal trafficking next year. :0)

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[–] goodguy1367 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I remember seeing in another discussion about the Podestas or someone, can't think of where it was but it had a link to the Smithsonian Museum or something like that about it being a bit odd, it was definitely Smithsonian something...If they had pandas in there wouldn't the main priority be to get the place done so they can live there or be happy there? bit odd to always be under construction

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[–] S3m8o3 ago 

This is a very interesting reply. Perhaps this needs some more attention. I mean, this sounds like a good place to hide or do whatever you want.

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[–] truthseekertx [S] 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

The Puppet Show User, made this connection yesterday:

From http://sheilaharrington.org click paintings, click other work, then click on illustration and BAM.

http://studio5dc.com/GraphicDesign/Eurythmy.html http://archive.is/K4K2h

That page links to here: http://www.waldorfearlychildhood.org http://archive.is/R4E2M

There's a connection to kids, with kids in a spiral.

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[–] Bansh33 ago 

Wecan Wiccan. I can draw crazy tenuous links too. Look for harder evidence

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[–] carmencita ago 

There are the words We Can at the top of one of the links. Was that not part of some code they were trying to figure? Some of it was Arabic and it was like wqcn or similar. Could this be linked to that. I think there was also GEw as well if that rings a bell. Maybe someone knows?

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[–] reasonedandinformed 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Here is the message we were trying to decode (from this thread https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1550573:

Z wcqn send GEw aasaq💓💚☪🗜📲now

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[–] Don-Keyhote ago  (edited ago)

Wiccan lol

Whetrs the Arabic text??

You mean the emoji msg?

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[–] ConcernedParent 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Another user said spirals and hearts are common and we are just seeing confirmation bias. This could be true, which is why we are investigating. If they are innocent it will be easy enough to find out.

Right now, "Wake Up Little Suzie" seems the most suspect to me. Not only because of the spirals, but what she sells is strange. In 2011, this is what her "what we sell" web page looked like. She has since removed these photos from the site: https://web.archive.org/web/20111204004617/http://wakeuplittlesuzie.com/Stuff.html

(Archive of the archive website, cause why you never know: http://archive.is/8xaWK))

That is some odd stuff to sell to a child. I certainly wouldn't give that creepy looking man to a child or a mother-to-be. It could very well be nothing. Definitely dig around and see what you can find. PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO ARCHIVE

Post edit

So I've been mainly digging in "Wake Up Little Suzie" shop and I don't know if there is enough evidence either way. Lots of dead ends. I found the owner's name and how much her shop makes. The most scandalous thing I found was that she was involved in a Civil II lawsuit back in 2002. All I know is it involved some breach of contract and it was later dismissed. I don't know how to read court jargon. Will keep digging, but so far there isn't enough evidence to suggest she is involved in PG.

Post edit two:

This may be nothing, so please don't assume anything, but I did find that the owner of "Wake Up Little Suzie" is a co-founder of the Cleveland Park Business Association. Again, could be nothing, still haven't found anything to suggest she is in PG, so far just seems like a person who really loves her community.

Reached a dead end on "Wake Up Little Suzie" and decided to look into another shop. Found something on the owner of "Transcendence, Perfection, and Bliss". She is a disciple of an old perverted cult leader, she was so into this cult that she legally changed her name AND changed her shop name. https://cultnews.com/category/srichinmoy/

source of her changing her first name and shop name: http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/americas-least-likely-ultramarathoner-is-also-one-of-its-best

Again though, this doesn't mean she into PG. I haven't found anything suggesting she's more than a victim of a cultist scam.

I think I'm done digging for now, I've reached a dead end on both of these shop owners.

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[–] Don-Keyhote 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Compare what i find in the tiny village McCann disappeared in, which was a pop of 3500 but around 20k in british high tourism season. There have been rumors of pedo rings there specifically and Portugal in general. Freud chose to live whereas the westernmost tip of Europe is nearby among other desirable locales that have more amenities. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1463313 Yes the mod was also skeptical there logos https://postimg.org/image/ydti2ptzb/ https://postimg.org/image/xkrgnceu1/ https://postimg.org/image/6kkp6vtkj/ https://postimg.org/image/736148q29/ https://postimg.org/image/z9qy8l3sh/ https://postimg.org/image/lq525t98b/

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[–] Shortgiraffe 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The houseseeker and beach photos were creepy.

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[–] ConcernedParent 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

1.Transcendence, Perfection, and Bliss

2.Wake up little Suzie

3.Chocolate Mousse

4.Barstons Toy Shop

5.Periwinkle Gifts

6.Kinder Toy Haus OP, what is the address to this? Are you sure it's a DC store?

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[–] LargePepperoni ago 

About Transcendence-Perfection-Bliss Transcendence-Perfection-Bliss of the Beyond is inspired by spiritual leader Sri Chinmoy (1931-2007) and his philosophy of self-transcendence. We are eternally grateful for his magnificent achievements in the fields of art, music, literature, sports, and his lifetime of service to humanity. For more than 28 years, we have offered an oasis of delightful gifts, cards and toys in the heart of Cleveland Park, Washington, D.C. Sri Chinmoy official website: www.srichinmoy.org

Sri Chinmoy was a cult leader...

Posted this yesterday: http://archive.is/gAnz0 https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1552639/7562107

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[–] ConcernedParent 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah, and she liked him so much she changed her first name and changed her shop name. Been digging for over an hour, so far it looks like she's just a woman that got scammed by a cult.

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[–] truthseekertx [S] ago 

Concerned Parent,

Sorry about that. Its actually 1220 N Fillmore St, Arlington, VA 22201. But its actually right near D.C. not far at all from where the others are, but not as close as the other stores I mentioned.

Look up Anglo Dutch Pools and Toys as well. They are at 5460 Westbard Ave, Bethesda, MD 20816. An 8 minute drive from comet, has pedo links also. I commented on that store before I saw your post.

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[–] ConcernedParent ago 

Okay, I will add it once I get done looking something else up. I won't be able to get Kinder Toy Hous's property information since it is in VA though.

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[–] Millennial_Falcon 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This looks like confirmation bias, IMO. Hearts and spirals are common symbols. Look through enough items, and you are bound to find a few.

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[–] Don-Keyhote ago 

Then offer more than your personal estimation of how frequent they should be. Some kind of statistical analysis is possible. Someone here must be familiar with marketing and graphic design. Kung fu panda films may account for a kid in a panda costume but to me spirals seem a little overwhelming and uncommon in logos and toys.

The poster above you is almost certainly closest to the truth in that its a pedo mecca and its entirely possible they include toy stores in their operation and the toys they market serve to both advertise they're friendly and make the symbols appear ubiquitous and benign.

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[–] SturdyGal ago  (edited ago)

Those spirals are an outdated style of design popular about 20 years ago. They are, to me, different from the pedo symbol spirals. I am not at all alarmed by the collection, including the now removed (no doubt because they were sold) Day of the Dead doll art that is considered Mexican Folk Art and also beloved by Emos, also outdated. Please leave this lady alone, there is literally nothing to see here and she will be disappointed if all her site hits don't lead to sales. If I'm wrong you can publicly shame me.

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[–] fifibrindacier 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Stop with spirals !! FBI symbols have triangle shapes. Not every spirals are evil ! I love drawing spirals, am I a pedo ? NO. I dont think that Besta Pizza has something to do with it, they explained on their google information that they didn't know at all for the drawing, and immediately when they found out, they removed it.

JA has relationships with Podesta, Clintons, puts a lot of weird pictures, Heavy Breathing and all that shit. But except for the drawing, Besta is not implicated, or we dont' have anything on them. Well, maye later, we will have evidence that they are, but for the moment, we should stop invading the forums with all spirals we can find in the world.

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[–] DarkMath 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Besta Pizza "didn't know at all for the drawing".........I'd like to talk to you about a potentially lucrative Real Estate deal you might be interested in. Well it's not real estate per se rather it's a bridge that connects Manhattan with Brooklyn. It's a license to print money. Would you be interested in hearing more about it?

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[–] fifibrindacier 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

DOn't call me stupid because I don't agree with you. Go on with your research, it's our duty to say what we think, not to yell "pedos" each time we see a spiral.

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