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[–] iamtheboogeyman 2 points 27 points (+29|-2) ago 

This guy was foolish. However, if you are a badass with balls the size of Texas this is actually a move I would consider if I could limit exposure to just myself. Imagine the shitstorm if you took out his 'hitman' because you were ready for them. Imagine if Seth Rich killed the alleged kill team sent after him and all the evidence went public. I'm not endorsing anything that was done, but if that dumbass threatened me or my family he would be the one in a world of shit and would have to flee the country to be safe from me for I though I may walk through the valley of death, I fear no evil as I am the meanest motherfucker in the valley.

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[–] redberries 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

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[–] SluggishJ 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

He didn't even know what mods were. He's a little piglet

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[–] nikilici0us 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Do not let that fool you. These elitist scum are well connected whether he played 'oblivious to what a mod' is on a forum.

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[–] srayzie 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Lol invite him over for dinner 😈

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[–] LostandFound 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

Its a fake, man people are so gullible. Honestly it would take less than 10 mins to fake that whole thing hes making a joke out of all of us here who have done real work.

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[–] Truthseeker3000 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

It is real and I'll tell you why. JA communicates with certain people on this (pizzagate) and has for a while off and on. He's had a hand in getting certain people kicked off Instagram and YouTube when they discuss certain things about him. I know this 100% because I've seen a few of the chat logs and he talks in riddles the exact same way as shown on the YouTube video as he does to the individual who's convos I was sent the screenshots of. He's on here as birdzeyeview. Interesting choice of screenname, as if he's above everyone else looking down. Or maybe at Pegasus on the roof top looking down at the kiddies in the playground.

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[–] CantWeJustDroneHim 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'm already labeled a shill according to v/pizzagateshills, so I'll just go ahead and say this:

Although this could be real, it feels fake to me.

  1. This guys reactions felt like bad acting.
  2. I'm guessing anyone at a level as high as Alefantis is suspected is well versed in public relations, and wouldn't make rookie mistakes like this. He has connections for threats
  3. Alefantis seems well educated and well spoken. While I can see him losing his temper and speaking like a dick, I'm guessing he'd be a little more calm and sound more intelligent
  4. The guy is actively trying to make money off pizza gate. I think it's great, and wish luck to anyone like that, but it automatically throws any "controversy" involving you as suspect.

I hope I'm wrong, hope this isn't made up and that JA really messed up like this, but my gut says otherwise

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[–] newworldahead 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

While I agree that /u/IsThisGameofThrone should have been more careful, I think he deserves more respect than some here are giving him. We should see him as a brave member of our family and protect him as best as we can. Speaking of him like he was an idiot, or that he doesn't have what it takes to investigate pizzagate is just insensitive and mean.

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[–] AgainstTheNWO 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

agree on that.

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[–] neo50 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well said.

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[–] Ihatepizza2 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I disagree with almost everything in this post. What Gameofthrones did paralyses them - they know that their every move is being watched. They know we all have cameras. They know we're are multitudes but they are few. They are shit scared and that's the way it should be. THIS "Likewise, Alefantis is now on red alert and probably going to be super careful about anything he does from now on. This will definitely affect the future of our investigation in a negative manner" IS BOLLOX. Alefantis is now completely paralysed all thanks to this brave soul. He now can't move - hide - remove evidence. HE IS NOW A LIABILITY TO THEM, and we all know what happens to liabilities in your world, dont we James??? He is weak and we know it! Keep throwing stones and you will hurt him - words will not, only hard actions like this will bring justice.

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[–] l4l1lul3l0 [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

He's been a liability since we founded this movement. The argument isn't not to do heroic things, it's do them anonymously. You're telling me Ryan's family are suddenly safe because a few people on voat know about it?

Some of you guys are too filled with testosterone. It's you the sole average citizen against people much larger than you. This is exactly why the FBI can't do anything, once they know who you are they make clear threats and carry them out.

Our power is in the anonymity of our forces, not in reckless behaviour.

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[–] AgainstTheNWO 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

While it is true what you are stating, i do not anonymous research and postings on twitter. It is a choice i made. I fight under my own name the 1% NWO because by fighting anonimous will save me some years maybe, but will not stop their end goal of depopulation 95% humanity. I also want to disable other people's opportunity to say "Wir haben es nicht gewußt" and if i can know, everybody can.

I make no compromise in that, even during the time i had a job by justice department i had a "9-11 inside job" motorhome 9 years ago parking on personal parking spots and dropping dvd's on nightshift places, played department sportevents in 9-11 inside job t-shirt, etc.

I know they easily bring a complete packed plane down just to get one person, that is THE reason why i fight under real name, (or, atleast like here easy tracable). Even if you are anonimous or complete uninterested you can and most likely will be a victim of them, then just rather with my own clean soul. Just like most sitting still waiting for their beheading, i would not sit passive, if i die, they shall work for it and maybe i can break a knee are something from the beheader(s) in the process.

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[–] goat_cheese_pizza 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

there sure are a lot of people promoting/defending being reckless in this thread. i've never noticed that in this forum before. it stinks i tell ya.

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[–] cosmicmind 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

anonymously and intelligently is key. But, that's Texas for ya... go big or go home. Not always big on pre-planning though, a he appears to a little too much emotional reaction, but gotta love the spunk.

The truth will win out.

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[–] Pizzalurker15 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Our power is our combination of everything coming from all angles. Anon and not. We can hit on every front at all times everyday.

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[–] Pizzalurker15 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I agree. This paralysis is also why he cant just come out and defend himself, unscripted. It forces him to act guilty knowing that the tiniest slip up will be noticed. An innocent person doesnt need to watch their words. They can spew forth anything and not incriminate themselves because they are innocent. James cannot do this. Any seemingly unimportant word caught on camera and be used against him in a court of cyberlaw

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[–] SmilingWide 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If they were able to eliminate Alefantis, they would have done it by now.

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[–] AgainstTheNWO 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

It does not matter for the investigation. He is just one of many. This is not gone be concealed. Every move of Epstein will be documented, every connection he will make will be quested. Same for James, Podesta, Marina, etc, etc.

This is one of and maybe the most powerful tool the 1% uses and this close from a total/partly disclosure opportunity the public has never been before.

If it is CIA, Clinton foundation on its own, Global Mafia a combination of those or other parties does not change the (for me) fact that Comet is just one of the multiple similar cells. We now have a insight and education in the matter we (me) did not have prior the podesta emails. I knew/suspected satenic rituals linked to bohemain groove, but now i think it is not older but larger, more open and more powerfull then i thought 3 month ago.

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[–] Orange_Circle 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No, they have to set things up to make it look like someone on this side did it.

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[–] bolus 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Has the alleged death threat been reported to authorities?

Capone was taken down for tax fraud, can we get alefantis for cyber bullying?

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[–] Beaucephus 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Yes there was a police report filed

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[–] unconceivable 4 points 9 points (+13|-4) ago 

That video is probably a fake. I reproduced it in 30 seconds: https://youtu.be/osyhtJTg9eE

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[–] SIMONBARROW 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Didn't Ryan also confirm Alefantis's phone number?

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[–] Fateswebb 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Produce the one where you put a number into reverse phone search and it comes back saying James alephantis.

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[–] l4l1lul3l0 [S] 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago  (edited ago)

To be honest, I can't see Alefantis actually going through with it. Now that we all know, the risk on him is too high. We'll know instantly who it was if /u/IsThisGameofThrones goes missing.

The point is though, why risk it? If he deals in child trafficking, is that the sort of person you want to personally piss off? Be sensible, your life is the only one you get.

Edit: I forgot I'm addressing some vigilante types. If you guys think it's a game then you're simply devaluing the lives of the kids. We work to rescue them first, getting the bastards is the follow-up task. If you can't discipline yourselves then you're asking for trouble on the whole investigation.

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[–] bolus 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Yeah sure, that's pretty much exactly the kind of guy I'd want to piss off. If this whole nest of vipers is in the business of corrupting the system through the means of trafficking/exploiting/killing kids, then fml, don't care about my legacy.

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[–] VainFaxJax 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago  (edited ago)

@ Vigilantes .You guys are fucking WEAK. Stop acting like your James fucking Bond, you're citizens who are trying to do this case like everyone else. Getting yourself killed won't do shit, don't live through this case to make yourself feel like a fucking god, you're a human, bring your bloated head down to earth, acting like Zeus, how immature! Act like a man, you're not Vendetta, and you'll get yourself killed like a sow.Wanna see a real dude, look at Julian Assange, whom is locked up all day to sacrifice everything to release emails, and here you arrogant guys are, spitting in the face of basic privacy like you're half brained. If you don't like Assange, I can name more, get a damn grip, release whenever you get info, but don't go charging like a buffoon, it's stupid, and so childish. And accomplishes NOTHING. Ps: I know I was extremely aggressive, but I had to get this off my chest. I'm not talking about people like David Seaman that make vids, but people in the forum that act like they're going to go and fight Alefantis himself, and save the fucking day like Superman.

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[–] SpikyAube 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Oh that made me laugh so much for some reason, taken down for cyber bullying.

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[–] VieBleu 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

now that you mention it, it is a bit of a chuckle. Almost like an insult to him.

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[–] brbomglolwtfbbq 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Hey Alefantis, since you are probably reading this: FUCK YOU DISGUSTING PEDO FAGGOT. That is all.

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[–] SmilingWide 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I concur. And, David Brock is an amateur hour propagandist.

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[–] cosmicmind 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

yeah, a well paid amateur.

Notice how these shit-heads all have the same convo technique? I noticed it in the Belgian article and UK article too. They use words like "this is unfathomable", it's "wildly unbelievable" "absurd", etc, etc, while omitting any comprehensive investigation.... this technique being to attack a person's confidence with insults and shutdown intelligent data-driven investigation.

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[–] Ihatepizza2 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Your telling us to all hide and cower? That is the absolute most wrong thing you could say!!!! Get out there and fight!!!!!!! If this is real it is the first stone to crack. Talk is cheap - Action = results. This guy is the bravest person on the planet right now and he got results. Make no mistake this is a fight. People have been hurt, thousands of them. Make no mistake, we will have to fight to stop it.

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[–] l4l1lul3l0 [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'm telling you to be safe so you can investigate and build evidence so we can finish all of them

If you want to endanger your life, go for it. Natural selection exists for a reason I suppose.

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[–] Free_Radical 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

You're supposed to take care of your (and yours) safety before any big exposures, dumbfuck. The selection is not natural and you're supposed to use your brains to tilt the scale - before you put your dick in the machine.

This exposure is a good move but please tone down the "authorities will fix it" narrative. It's embarrassing.

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[–] Ronnilynn31 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Seems like some of this would be common knowledge, but people get comfortable with YouTube and seem to think that there is some safety in exposure. While the maker of the video or public comments may be safe because whacking the person would be too suspicious, the family is not safe. It's the ultimate threat and "accidents" happen all too easily. I can see where it would be easy to get caught up in being a part of history to expose something like this, but not at the expense of your life and those you love.

Good post, good reminder. Be safe...and remain lawful so as not to discredit yourself or the great work people are doing to expose the truth.

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[–] SandalsOfJudith 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

And - just in case - please never ever order anything from anybody who promotes stuff regarding "Pizzagate". It could be someone, who just wants not only make out money from this stuff, but collect the very identities, complete with adress and maybe credit card info, of people obviously being critical about pizzagate or those powerful people, who are said, to be involved in it.

And maybe some of them indeed are. Just imagine, you were someone of them. Would you not absolutely by any means, want to find out, who is connected with this critical movement? Or shows sympathy for it? What would you do, to collect adresses of people who are against you, who are actively working against you or who are at least interested in the theme, which could lead to your complete ruin? Would you not just try and set up some "cool" stuff, everybody wants to have and is willing to pay for? Thus you could easily and effortlessly find out a lot about your enemies. In case, there is something so evil going on, that is. Be very careful, please. Do not order anything from anybody here, unless you are 100% sure, that this person is legit.

There are many very legit people working on this and they, I think, are even open for donations or so. One can spot them out, but it takes time and some kind of experience imho. Yet, if you have any doubt about anybody may it be the smallest, do not give away your id in any way. This does not mean, that I mistrust specifically that video-maker. It is just way to dangerous to give away your id in any way. That shop could be hacked, or whatever. And - besides - it could be a good decision, not to go around with that kind of word on your chest, your neighbourhood could spot you and it goes on and on.

I see the charm of it, and see, it would be great to show the solidarity with people who work hard for the good side, but it is not the right time to show your strong support on shirts or cups. Maybe it is just me, but anything, which could mean a weakening for this propably really huge thing which is going on and which is so complicated to be brought down, should be completely avoided in the moment. Not to speak about your personal security.

Do not stop researching, digging, publishing, posting your findings, discussing. But stay safe and anonymous all the time and for the hard deals, like phone calls or so, just let that do the police or other professional people. You do, what they cannot do. They do, what they can do. Each side does her best.

Sorry for my english. Am not a native speaker.

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[–] starrydust 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Thanks for sharing this. You make some great points that more people need to be aware of. Trust shouldn't just be given out easily, even to people who appear to do the right thing. I would upvote you if I had enough points!

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