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[–] doubletake 1 points 33 points (+34|-1) ago  (edited ago)

why? WHY? because whatever you are doing is working.

Also, Porn/pedophilia via paypal is an interesting search:

" ... employees of the Defense Department — including some with the highest available security clearance — who used credit cards or PayPal to purchase images of children in sexual situations. "

www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/12/pedophilia-disgustingly-widespread.html

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[–] PizzaGate-Is-Real 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Get Bitcoin, faggots.

And tell David Seaman to get Bitcoin too.

Shit like this is why permissionless money has value.

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[–] WakeUpBoo 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Seaman already holds Bitcoin, and espouses its use. He's now having issues with his PayPal account, preventing him from receiving Patreon donations (at the time of writing). He should publish a bitcoin address under each YT vid as an alternative (or even primary) method of donating.

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[–] Guy_with_the_face 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It was actually because of David that I started buying bitcoins, he has some great material on Bitcoin and Gold. Its worth a gander through his videos. Cheers

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[–] elitch2 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

BIPcoin is where we need to be. Untraceable crypto based on the cryptonote code. Bitcoin is far too easy to trace/track if you have the resources (feds). BIPcoin! http://bipcoin.org/

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[–] ginx2666 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Get Bitcoin, faggots.

Well, it's certainly easier and more anonymous method of paying for cp, but I don't see your point.

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[–] MolochHunter 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

maybe we should start a #PedoPal meme

Edit: add YouthTube, Disgracebook and Paeddit

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[–] Phobos_Mothership 1 points 31 points (+32|-1) ago 

I made a short response video to this video expressing my concerns with using the word 'satanic' too much, as these forms of cults can worship anything from Satan to Moloch to a made-up-brand-new cult diety. We don't want to be overly specific, best keep the focus around chid trafficking rings and child sexual abuse rings

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[–] PieInTheEye 1 points 23 points (+24|-1) ago 

'Thelemic' is actually a better terminology.

It covers every possible deification or pseudo-deification of 'Scientific Illuminism' (as Crowley called it), right down to the belief that every man/women themselves, is the only 'god' of consequence.

The Spirit Cooking and sexual sacrementalization using 'handkerchiefs', is specifically derived from Thelemic transgressionalism. The best quote that there is about Thelema is the following:

Regarding Crowley's antidemocratic, racist and misanthropic writings, followers point out: "The reason [...] aspects of Thelema are omitted [in public discussion] indicates the actual problem with presenting Thelema as a religion and attempting to get Thelema sanctioned by the government or approved by the public: Thelema is ultimately in contrast to and transgressive of normative society. Thelema rejects the morals and values of normative society and acts to transgress and violate these norms. From the inclusion of intoxicants in ritual, to the positive view of sexuality, which frequently is seen as promoting promiscuity, to the pro–authoritarian and Nietzschian aspects of Thelema, normative society has much to reject in Thelema and conversely, Thelema encourages its adherents to reject most aspects of normative society." (O.T.O.'s "Journal of Thelemic Studies", 1;2, 2008, http://thelemicstudies.com/JoTS1–2.pdf, pg 40)

As a Christian my bias would be to call it Satanic, because all of this self-deification is the Biblical definition of Satanic ideology, though you are probably correct that certain occult and elite communities would use pedantic specificity as an argument against generality towards comunal, even ritual, organized transgressive behavior. Abramovic and the Podesta's obviously revel in their association with transgressive 'art', and try to use this as a cover for their true inner beliefs (though Abramovic's Twitter handle included the number 666; revealing at least a Thelemic foundation).

They use the term 'Satan' or 'Satanism' as a canard in little word games to mock their detractors.

As such, we should use specificity against them, and just call their belief systems Thelemic. Nuance can work both ways, and would interest third parties more in the topics being discussed, because the word 'satan' just invokes the usual glazed eye syndrome where people instantly turn off from the discussion, like someone blew a dog whistle in their ear.

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[–] Phobos_Mothership 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Well written, anon. Have teh upvote.

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[–] amCassandraAMA 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

you, Sir, have a very sharp mind.

I will follow your suggestion and call them thelemic in future.

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[–] SayWhatNOWAY 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

No matter what anyone calls it, it is freaking Evil Sick Disgusting Satanism!

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[–] CosmicChrist 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I would ask you to do a little more research on these topics because you seem to not really understand Thelema or Crowely. You admit to your Christian bias, so please read this shot essay by US general Micheal Aquino. http://soa-gild.blogspot.com/2008/08/horns-across-water-satanism-in-britain.html?m=1

Aquino is high priest of the Setian Church. The temple of Set is the evolution of LaVey's church of Satan, and has replaced the old Satanist model. They consider themselves"puritan Satanists", if you will.

You will see in that essay that Satanism and Thelema are certainly not the same thing, they say it outright.

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[–] nowiknow 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

also bc if you mention satan, normies will dismiss it w/o listening. they arent ready for that aspect in the beginning.

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[–] BrutalWhale 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Agreed, most people will be less likely to listen if it involves religion.

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[–] Sentastixc 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Right, PedoFiles or Pedocracy are better terms to run with

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[–] Phobos_Mothership 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago  (edited ago)

#PedoFiles #Pedocracy #Pedogate #PedoElite

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[–] ChEwBuBbLeGuMkIcKaSs 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

So you want to protect Satanists, is that correct? I smell you shill.

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[–] Platypus43 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

This is something every single one of you need to put under a HUGE microscope

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[–] PieInTheEye 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What ... Elon Musks' pecker? :) Someone line up the Hubble Space Telescope, we need the big guns.

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[–] Godwillwin 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

PayPal, amazon, Facebook, google all in bed with the paedophiles.

I depend on amazon and PayPal because we have 6 children-- I do 80 percent of my shopping online so I don't have to drag the babies out. But I'm starting to reconsider my frequent use of Amazon prime. But then again, little me boycotting amazon won't really make a difference

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[–] Theupsidedown 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

If I were you, I would consider posting less personal information on here.

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[–] Godwillwin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Nah. If the one world order is "watching" us, they're watching us. My revealing my having 6 kids won't change the situation.

There's almost 10,000 of us on here. They can't "suicide" us all. And if they come after all of us, so be it. I do worry about the journalists and investigative reporters that are staying true though. May God watch over us and all of the others seeking the truth to be told. May He watch over and guide Mr. Trump as well.

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[–] AlSwearinjun 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I don't see many good deals on Amazon anymore like I used to. They have raised prices and there's been press about people getting fake products. I really don't have much confidence when I order from them so I hardly ever do.

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[–] Godwillwin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

True. Good point. I suppose you're right. It's hard not to get bogged down and pouty on occasion while waiting for something to be done about our nation being run by sickos. I snapped out of pout mode this morning ;)

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[–] porkiepies 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I once reported a picture for nudity on Facebook because someone had a photo of their toddler girl sleeping on the floor with her butt in the air and not one stitch of clothing on. photo was taken from the back. FB told me the photo did not violate their terms....

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[–] Yuke 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The ones in support of David Seaman seriously need to start asking more pressing questions about things. People are actually sending him money, paying him, to tell them what they already know and to rant about being warned/banned. He is being warned/banned because he keeps breaking the rules, i.e; using terms like "John Podesta is a sadistic pedophile". We all know JP is involved in this, we don't yet know to what extent, but coming out with lines like that, slander, is why he is being banned. Just to press this home; I'll pick someone at random... @Phobos_Mothership for example, lets say that this is his real name. I cannot go on YouTube and say "Phobos Mothership is a sadistic pedophile" without the possibility of him requesting the video to be removed and YouTube would then no doubt give me a warning. That's basic logic. When David Seaman starts releasing videos that tell me something I don't already know (because after all, he is claiming this is his full-time job now and he really should be delivering news of what he's researched) I'll start listening, but as things stand he's making the case for his defense worse with each passing day.

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[–] ALDO_NOVA 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

agreed - I was shocked to hear he was asking for money so he could "continue his research full time"

I have only seen him regurgitate what the real investigators have found, not once has he found anything on his own.

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[–] saztak 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If people want to give him money for that, why shouldn't they be able to?

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[–] PieInTheEye 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I tend to share your assessment of Seaman. Too often people on the more 'right' side of political discussion are turning into info parrots with nothing original to add in either data or analysis. This is exactly what leftists habitually do, and it is rather frustrating. If he had come out a few times in order to use his subscriber base to share info, I wouldn't have any qualms as he'd be doing the topic service, but he has been blanket repeating himself for almost 8 weeks now, as if he's simply responding to analytical traffic potential, rather than actually piercing into new fields of inquiry as a proper journalist is supposed to do.

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[–] ChEwBuBbLeGuMkIcKaSs 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Spot on I sadlly have to say.

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[–] stop_the_pizza 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Sorry but it's not slander until it's proven in court that it is slander. David seaman has already expressed that he would like a court case and that the podesta's would not, because the discovery and fact finding of court would expose that it isn't slander.

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[–] samhara 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That could be true, but the Court System is rigged / faked, in any case. Personally I feel Seaman should be able to say that without being censored.

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[–] Yuke 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Ha, well then by that definition it would have to go the other way as well wouldn't it?

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[–] eggmunkee 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Mostly all the videos I see of his are focused solely on himself, or just making accusations without pointing to evidence (not discounting evidence, he just states concrete conclusions as obvious that overstep). Also, this video just shows that his paypal account had an issue, so he is now saying he's being blocked for his message. Maybe, but he didn't show that. I wish him luck, but I don't get much value out of any video I've seen thus far, and more than his share of self-promotion and victim framing.

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[–] NerdyNoodle 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I am soooo pissed! I gave money to his PayPal.me directly and also through Patreon. Give him his &$#*)(% money, PayPal!

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[–] 7452922? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I did as well. Is there any way to file a complaint?

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[–] NerdyNoodle 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

He says this morning that the funds were released. But he is still planning to call PayPal to make sure it never happens again.

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[–] GodHand666 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I work for Paypal Credit, if you could provide me with the email that you sent your paypal payment too, I could provide some research, and figure out what exact limitations are on his account, I don't know if I will be provided with a reason why though. But its a start

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[–] Yuser_Manuel 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Paypal is shady AF. They shut my brand new account down within 2 days about a decade ago and I hadn't made any transactions. They didn't give me a reason why. I don't like how it is the only option to get paid by some sites. People need to move away from it.

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[–] OrangeAndWhite 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Bitcoin.

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[–] DustyRadio 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

I can't get behind Bitcoin with Brock Pierce running it. He is actually a charged pedo, not just a suspected one.

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[–] foxxywoxxy 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Dont understand all of these but..The time is now! We must shift to decentralized uncensorable platforms https://steemit.com/freespeech/@woocharlie/the-time-is-now-we-must-shift-to-decentralized-uncensorable-platforms

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[–] stop_the_pizza 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Look, we know the value of this, or we wouldn't be on voat in the first place. But voat does not have nowhere near the critical mass or population of the censor ridden reddit. It's still worth it to try and get the news we discover here out to these other platforms too. There are so many people we can reach.

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[–] PieInTheEye 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

bingo ... it is the only way! Capitalism doesn't exist without competition, and capital comes in many different forms, including the human intelligence capital we invest in online forums. Humint is a form of capital that needs to diversify, it is simply a form of charity, sharing free info and opinions, otherwise it will die and the truth will be the only true victim.

PayPal, Amazon, and Apple, MUST be made to heel. Silicon Valley must be broken up by changes in consumer patronage, because it has become a CARTEL !!! A San Francisco lefty cartel full of control freak despots.

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[–] saztak 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I think the big problem is that businesses aren't held to the constitution. When businesses control our platforms of free speech, they can infringe on our fundamental rights. The government doesn't seem too keen on actually protecting those rights. We need big reforms asap. I have a feeling it's going to be a huge topic going forward.

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