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[–] SheSaidDestroy 0 points 38 points (+38|-0) ago 

The part they likely primarily want to hide is this:

A 2008 study conducted by Michael Bourke, a psychologist for the U.S. Marshals Service, offered compelling evidence to the contrary. He found that people who view child pornography also tend to sexually abuse children. Bourke examined 155 prison inmates who had been convicted of possessing or distributing child pornography. Of those, only 26 percent had a known history of abusing kids. Bourke observed the group progress through months of therapy and eventually found that 131 of those men — 85 percent — acknowledged that they had molested a child.

Repeated exposure to child pornography makes abuse more likely, Bourke found, because it dehumanizes children. The online communities exacerbate the problem because they provide social validation and a sense of belonging.

This is significant, because presently there is an increasingly aggressive push in western societies to normalize pedophilia, and they are coming out of the woodwork under many videos about pizzagate and elsewhere, trying to insist that they would never harm a child, that it is just another sexual "orientation" and not a disorder, etc.

This is some next-level Machiavellianism from the overall Dark Triad, the other two elements being Narcissism and Psychopathy, which both also fit perfectly in the case of child predators.

There is an overwhelming amount of evidence that some of the people in question are pedophiles, as in they have the disorder that is pedophilia. As this evidence continues to grow and becomes harder to ignore or downplay, so too does the rebuttal grow louder that pedophilia is not the same thing as actually abusing a child.

Articles such as that one demonstrate that actually, by the time pedophiles are brazen enough to put themselves out there and try to manipulate people into accepting pedophilia as harmless or normal, the statistical chances are that children have already been abused in their wake.

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[–] Forgetmenot 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Excellent point. I am utterly disgusted that the media is pushing this dangerous theory on the public regarding normalizing pedofilia. It becomes obvious recently that our society has changed drastically over the last decade it's a shock how much has changed.

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[–] stunknife [S] 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I absolutely agree. The author did go into surprising detail about this study. They are testing the waters by making articles that say pedophilia is on the same level as other mental illnesses. I'm guessing once the public keeps seeing these articles and become desensitized to the topic, they will agree, and the people who decide to come out will be treated as victims of a horrible illness

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[–] simagule 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I remember reading a post a few years ago, the same way being gay has been normalised pedophila will be next. At the time i thought the person was crazy, starting to look like i was wrong.

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[–] NeedPolyGF 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I'm guessing once the public keeps seeing these articles and become desensitized to the topic, they will agree, and the people who decide to come out will be treated as victims of a horrible illness

NO WAY!

Actually, society has made progress in the past 4 decades at least in increasingly recognizing formerly hidden abuses. First there was spouse abuse, mostly women. Then there was physical child abuse. Then date rape. And before those things, back in the 60s, racism was recognized widely for the first time.

I don't think society will ever countenance pedophilia, which is child abuse.

Maybe you're looking at this from the perspective of religiously fundamentalist-defined sexual perversion. Homosexuality was widely considered to be sinful and evil, but is largely accepted now, because most realize that everyone has peculiar likes and dislikes and, if people mutually consent and don't harm each other or anyone else, then it's no one else's business. But in the case of pedophilia a child cannot properly consent, and society wants to protect kids from all abuses. It's initially hard to wake society up to abuses, but once they wake up, they don't tolerate it.

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[–] ThePuppetShow 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I disagree, but only because of one particular question that we keep getting hit with. The question? Where are the victims? For that reason I'm leaning towards...

He saw in these men, and their words, a deeper shade of darkness. For months, according to court records, the three had discussed with each other sexual desires to kidnap, slaughter, cook and eat children. Arnett bragged of the boys and girls he had murdered and roasted, according to the records. He took photos of a toddler posed in a pan inside an oven, authorities say; he was found with images of decapitated children that a medical doctor believed to be real.

I don't think they want people awakening to the fact that this kind of crap actually does happen. They are supposed "foodies" too. Of course, I'm just speculating again, but maybe that's what Podesta is so good at cooking.

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[–] naturehelps 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

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[–] RexAxisMundi 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Eloquently put!

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[–] 7361944 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

"The youngest victim was 19 days old." And we're sharing oxygen with these fucking sub-humans.

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[–] Enigmatic_Continuum 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Thanks for referring to them as sub-humans. I cringe whenever I see someone call them animals. Animals are better than they are, and are being abused and murdered by these creatures, too. I will always refer to them as sub-humans or creatures.

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[–] contrarianism 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Demons might apply here.

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[–] Orange_Circle 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

Googled that investigation and one of the guys arrested had an underground dungeon built with a child sized coffin already installed along with instruments of torture.

Reminds one of the child sized coffin that Alefantis liked on Instagram.

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[–] zoltan907 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Geoffrey Portway. He's probably the unidentified man mentioned in the Tampa Bay Times article. He was arrested in July 2012 (around the same time as the unidentified man in the article), and had photos on his computer of children who appeared to be dead.

http://archive.is/BNI1A

"When his home in Worcester was searched last year, authorities found tens of thousands of computer images and videos of child pornography and 4,500 exchanges of child pornography between Portway and the people he chatted with online. The images included children being cooked and prepared to be eaten, court documents said. Those photographs are sealed."

Photos of the dungeon: http://archive.is/9ZXuS http://archive.is/QQb3h

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[–] Atlantean120 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Jesus Christ...

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[–] Orange_Circle 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

"Geoffrey Portway"

That's a name that should live in infamy.

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[–] Enigmatic_Continuum 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

While I don't dispute the fact of these child sized coffins or anything else they are doing to the kids, I just don't understand the need for the coffins if they are dismembering, cooking, eating, selling the organs, cremating, etc. I'm starting to believe that the coffins aren't for dead children, but to torture the kids into thinking they're going to be buried alive and cause further dissociation. I'm sure there are numerous other nightmares they could be used for as well, but I don't believe they're for dead children.

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[–] SIMONBARROW 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

According to the children in the Hampstead affair, the flesh is eaten and the bones incorporated into pottery made to order by a certain Felix, who apparently also makes the skin into 'baby shoes.'

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[–] Orange_Circle 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

"I'm starting to believe that the coffins aren't for dead children, but to torture the kids into thinking they're going to be buried alive and cause further dissociation. I'm sure there are numerous other nightmares they could be used for as well, but I don't believe they're for dead children."

I can agree with that.

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[–] Millstone 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

In this case it sounds like audio torture was the purpose:

Also located in this room were a child-sized homemade coffin (with large speakers covered in wire mesh at one end)

https://archive.fo/amlE8#selection-385.406-385.521

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[–] zoltan907 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I agree. It would be sloppy to leave evidence lying around.

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[–] NerdyNoodle 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

OK I just emailed him. We'll see if he answers. Probably not. He's working for Washington Post these days.

I asked him if he learned any other code words and whether he knew how they communicate outside the dark web: via symbols, via Facebook role playing games, via YouTube comment systems, etc.

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[–] stunknife [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I don't want to sound like a parent but make sure you don't turn him away, we don't want possible information to be lost.

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[–] NerdyNoodle 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I was polite and professional:

Subject: Looking for further information

Mr. Cox,

Today I read an article you wrote, printed by the Tampa Bay Times on August 4, 2012, entitled "How pedophile trail led to a Largo man".

I am doing a research project on the subject of pedophile communication and I would like to know if you can advise me: are there any other pedophile code words you remember from your time undercover in the dark web pedophile community?

Also, was there any indication that they might ever use a covert means of communicating, i.e.; in real life, via symbols, via Facebook role-playing games, or via the YouTube comment system, etc.?

Thanks for any help you might be able to offer me.

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[–] zoltan907 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

This article is almost 5 years old...There is something in here that makes them afraid.

My guess would be this: "Then, last week, authorities arrested a man in Massachusetts who had corresponded for years with Arnett and Brown.

"His arrest, authorities say, will likely lead to others."

The article didn't identify this man, or what city he was arrested in. If anyone had a good way to access arrest records from Massachusetts, and filter the results so that they show only people arrested for possession of child pornography, that might be a step in the right direction.

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[–] LostandFound 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Very interesting article links quite a lot of common themes. Interesting Jeffrey Dahmer comes up here also.

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[–] stunknife [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I hope the author is okay.

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[–] 2impendingdoom 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

explains the author's change of tune. Thank you for adding the Comet articles.

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[–] ejd4500 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Edit 2: Expanded write-up here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1516310

Ok, the latest google cache of this page is from December 2, 2016.

https://i.sli.mg/XHQwhm.png (large image)

https://archive.fo/nFrcX

Notice the rabbit, the code speak, the cannibalism, snapping photos of children...lots of parallels.

Again, December 2, 2016 is Google's last snapshot of that page

He wrote three articles (from a quick glance) at the Post about the 'absurdity' of Pizzagate, fake news, a few days after this Dec 6 and Dec 7 - not saying he removed it from the tampa bay times himself, but the timing is key given the #pizzagate attention.

https://i.sli.mg/LI5g3O.png

https://archive.fo/D3ijH

The stink of this is coming through my monitor...

Edit 1: webarchive.org tried to capture on the 18th and it failed, 404. We should keep this in mind as OP stated they read the article a couple of weeks ago.

https://i.sli.mg/gyZMhC.png

https://i.sli.mg/CTqydy.png

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[–] WHAMMO63 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Okay, there is only one reason I can think of that the man who wrote that article would ever dismiss #Pizzagate.

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[–] Vindicator 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Nice job analyzing the deletion timing. Great research!

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[–] SpikyAube 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Wow, that's interesting. The latest time it was archived was November 13th 2016. It was also archived in June 2014, despite having been originally published in 2014. So what prompted someone to save it in June 2014? And what prompted its deletion some time since pizzagate started?

Maybe all the people mentioned in the article need thoroughly investigating?

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