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[–] anolegion 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I actually agree about the Turing Test, hard AI and even more moderate versions, since I consider AI a contradiction in terms. However, where there *have *been impressive advances is in neurosciences and genetics - both fields closely related to the (stated, and some alleged) goals of MKUltra, its (mostly Nazi) predecessors and presumably its (supposed) successors.

I also agree I speculated there, or rather deduced. Because if one believes as I do that the wave of SRA reports in the late 80s and early 90s wasn't a satanic panic or a consequence of outdated/suggestive interrogation methods, then one has to suppose that the people and cults performing these rituals have been doing so ever since.

Yet there hasn't been a similar surge in reports, or even a continuation of reports from psychiatrists of psychotherapists. To me this means they have either stopped performing these rituals/experiments/treatments, or they have tuned them so as not to ever make a survivor *credibly *talk about it ever again.

Again, I do not believe they have perfected mind control or even that such a thing is possible. All I'm saying is that they have many years of experience, in some instances spanning many generations, hiding, covering up, suppressing etc. any and all evidence of their crimes, making ample use of experience and expertise among LE and judiciary within their ranks.

What is ironic and interesting is that a non-initiate, even a scientist or psychologist, would find it very hard to even detect such advanced DID, precisely because it is impossible to distinguish between an integrated personality and a compartmentalized one, since the latter will likely believe herself to be the former, and we have no plausible test to decide such a question, much like Searle's Chinese Room.

Well, I digress, as you did ;). But I posted this before, and it seems relevant in this context. This is from a police investigator into the case of Paul Ingram, who was accused of, and confessed to, SRA back in the early 90s.

Thurston county undersheriff Neil McClanahan, mustached and trim, is the intense young man who headed up the investigation. He has thirty-two three-inch binders, which are filled with testimony, transcripts from interrogations, police reports, and other documentation on the Ingram case.

Asked about satanic crime, he rolls out a chart he has made that covers a good part of his office wall. The chart has hundreds of bubbles with interconnecting lines. Each of the bubbles contains a word or phrase that describes the activities of various satanic cults. They are words like "murder," "threats," "defecation on victims," "child pornography," and "ritual sacrifice."

"This is link analysis," McClanahan says of the chart. "If, for the last 150 years, law enforcement has been playing baseball, this stuff is tri-level chess. And a baseball and a catcher's mitt don't work when you're playing tri-level chess."

McClanahan believes satanic criminals are so sinister and clever that the normal legal procedures and safeguards do not apply. Scientific police work does not apply because the criminals never leave evidence. The normal measures of witness credibility must be abandoned, because most of the victims as well as the criminals have been brainwashed and programmed with misinformation.

Mother Jones magazine, jul-aug 1991

[Edited for emphasis]

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[–] Melitica ago 

What is ironic is that Mother Jones is shouting long and loud about all things that criticize anything close to Hillary and has published several commentaries on "fake news" and right wing conspiracies....specifically, pizzagate. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/12/trump-fake-news-michael-flynn-pizzagate

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[–] cosmicmind ago 

I replied to your comment, but am on my phone and can't find it.... it may be on a detached reply. Oops.